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Dinars4Jesus
11-08-2008, 12:21 PM
Armed Response: A Comprehensive Guide to Using Firearms for Self-Defense


"Armed Response" is organized into succinct, compact-sized chapters that can be quickly and easily read. A few of the chapters include:

The need for Empty Hand Skills
Responsible use of Lethal Force
Beyond the Basics of Gun Handling
Revolvers versus Semi-Automatics and Handgun Selection
Concealed Carry and Alternative Carry Concepts
Ammunition Options and Stopping Power
Consequences of a Shooting
Rules for a Gunfight
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jumpjack
11-08-2008, 03:43 PM
"You have heard that it was said, 'AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.' But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you."

So, Dinars4JESUS, which is it?

papajack
11-08-2008, 04:03 PM
It is our God given duty as christians to resist tyranny and defend those weaker than ourselves. As christians we are to respect the law and the leaders set over us until they go against God's law. I am one christian that criminals had better think twice before they mess with me or my family. I don't look for trouble but I don't run from it either. It is any man's responsibilty to protect his family and not depend on others to do it for them. Obama was right I am bitterly clinging to my guns and religion to the very end.

Dinars4Jesus
11-08-2008, 04:27 PM
"You have heard that it was said, 'AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH.' But I say to you, do not resist an evil person; but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat also. Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. Give to him who asks of you, and do not turn away from him who wants to borrow from you."

So, Dinars4JESUS, which is it?

Its this: Jesus said, sell what you have and buy a sword before he went to the Garden of Gethsemane. David used a sling shot with Goliath.

In South Africa during a church service a man walked in with an AK47 and opened fire killing 16 Christians. A man who had a concealed weapon and who almost left it home, killed the man. Now, should he not respond? Should more lives be lost? Should he have said, excuse me sir, could you slap both my cheeks and then try a third time? Are we Christians not allowed to protect or defend our families, our property and the lives of others. Oh yah, are we Christians not allowed to defend our country?

Jump, you almost have the scripture right.

If someone asks for my coat and is in need (not just to take my coat for the sake of scripture) then I would give them my coat and have done so. When asked by someone to borrow, I have to be quickened by the Holy Spirit to respond. Its a lot deeper than just getting a scripture quote.

Dinars4Jesus
11-08-2008, 04:28 PM
It is our God given duty as christians to resist tyranny and defend those weaker than ourselves. As christians we are to respect the law and the leaders set over us until they go against God's law. I am one christian that criminals had better think twice before they mess with me or my family. I don't look for trouble but I don't run from it either. It is any man's responsibilty to protect his family and not depend on others to do it for them. Obama was right I am bitterly clinging to my guns and religion to the very end.

Papajack, is jumpjack your son? :yelrotflmao:

papajack
11-08-2008, 05:07 PM
Papajack, is jumpjack your son? :yelrotflmao:
No, Billy Jack!!!!

Dinars4Jesus
11-08-2008, 05:11 PM
No, Billy Jack!!!!

Just checking to see if your gene pool was slightly diluted. :biggrin:

jumpjack
11-08-2008, 11:19 PM
You guys don't sound like you know the first thing about Christianity. All I hear is fear, vengeance, violence. And of course the reason you are on this site is because of greed (just like me, but hey, I'm not the one with Jesus in my "name" -- isn't that a bit blasphemous, by the way?)

You guys seem bitter and fearful.

tmorr37
11-08-2008, 11:44 PM
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papajack
11-08-2008, 11:55 PM
Thats because novices only preach the touchy feely part of the gospel. If you know the real gospel you will know God is also a lion and not just a lamb. People said I was a bit harsh when I tried to warn them about Obama, was Jesus harsh when He threw the money changers out of the Temple? Was King David harsh when he governed Israel or Joshua harsh when he led an army to posess the promised land? Love has many faces, do you love God and people enough to tell them the truth? I can stand before God and honestly say I warned them Father. Before I was saved I was a fighter, I have even worked as a bouncer and also as a body guard and I will admit that I have a temper and that makes it hard to walk away from a fight, it's my nature and I am sure that I will go down fighting if things ever come to that in this world, but I'll be on God's side to the end. I only go where He says to go when He says to go.

Dinars4Jesus
11-09-2008, 12:21 AM
You guys don't sound like you know the first thing about Christianity. All I hear is fear, vengeance, violence. And of course the reason you are on this site is because of greed (just like me, but hey, I'm not the one with Jesus in my "name" -- isn't that a bit blasphemous, by the way?)

You guys seem bitter and fearful.

Its usually a guy who is not a Christian tellin us Christians we don't know anything about Christianity. Greed? Read the full name Dinars FOR Jesus. Now tell me son, are you even sure what blasphemy means? You sound a bit young to understand Christianity. There is no fear, vengeance in Christ. Violence is anothing until provoked and its ok with God when we defend. Not bitter Jumping person named Jack, were just going to defend this country until the death. Care to join us?

jumpjack
11-09-2008, 10:19 PM
I suppose there is no reason to defend myself, but what the hell. Yes, I was raised Christian and studied it for decades. Several other religions along side it as I grew older (probably older than you). If you're donating your dinars to a good cause, than hat's off to you. If that's what Dinars FOR Jesus means. It just seems to me that you're using your savior's name a bit frivolously. And frankly, it comes off as if you're claiming or implying some moral high ground. Further, that burning cross conjures images of the KKK.

In any case, I think your attitude is completely arrogant, and therefore, ignorant. If you think you know what god feels is okay, as in: "Violence is anothing until provoked and its ok with God when we defend," then you are truly delusional.

Thus, my original point. You don't seem to know anything about Christianity.

papajack
11-10-2008, 05:26 PM
I suppose there is no reason to defend myself, but what the hell. Yes, I was raised Christian and studied it for decades. Several other religions along side it as I grew older (probably older than you). If you're donating your dinars to a good cause, than hat's off to you. If that's what Dinars FOR Jesus means. It just seems to me that you're using your savior's name a bit frivolously. And frankly, it comes off as if you're claiming or implying some moral high ground. Further, that burning cross conjures images of the KKK.

In any case, I think your attitude is completely arrogant, and therefore, ignorant. If you think you know what god feels is okay, as in: "Violence is anothing until provoked and its ok with God when we defend," then you are truly delusional.

Thus, my original point. You don't seem to know anything about Christianity.
OK, I have over 25years of ministry experience, 3 diplomas from Bible college, hold ordination credencials with a worldwide Spirit Filled ministry, I am a published christian author on End Time Prophesy, have pastored 5 churches, and I have a bunch of people asking me to start another church since I stepped down to pursue marketplace ministry and they can't find another church like we had. So let the games begin I'm use to it.

Dinars4Jesus
11-10-2008, 08:41 PM
I suppose there is no reason to defend myself, but what the hell. Yes, I was raised Christian and studied it for decades. Several other religions along side it as I grew older (probably older than you). Im 63 Jump, am I still a kid in your eyes? If you're donating your dinars to a good cause, than hat's off to you. If that's what Dinars FOR Jesus means. It just seems to me that you're using your savior's name a bit frivolously. Not at all Jump, its a testimony and it hopefully will plant in others minds to do the same. I am not ashamed of the name of Jesus or he would be ashamed of me before the Father. And when the Dinars come in my ministry is moving to Texas. And frankly, it comes off as if you're claiming or implying some moral high ground. Less of me and more of Christ. I am rather humble, but occassionally get my dander up. Further, that burning cross conjures images of the KKK. The burning cross is symbolic of the Holy Spirit. Does this mean you think I'm a racist?

In any case, I think your attitude is completely arrogant, and therefore, ignorant. So you are entitled to think and I will not be ashamed of the cross. Sorry to offend you if I did. If you think you know what god feels is okay, as in: "Violence is anothing until provoked and its ok with God when we defend," then you are truly delusional. Jesus got angry at the temple, do you remember that in your training? What religion are you?

Thus, my original point. You don't seem to know anything about Christianity.

Lets see, Born Again, Baptized in water, Baptized in the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues in 1978. I have no religion, I have a relationship with Christ and am fully committed to Christ. I will defend Jesus to the death!