What's going on?

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Any new news regarding the economy? We seem to be stuck and unable to move forward.

[Psycho for Dinar]

Any new news regarding the economy? We seem to be stuck and unable to move forward.

I posted this under "Dinar" good news but I guess it could go here to!
http://chrenkoff.blogspot.com/2004/08/good-news-from-iraq-part-9.html

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Thanks for the news. I am still wondering why Baghdad international airport is still closed. Iraqi Airways conducted a trial flight 2 weeks ago to Amman, but still no service. Iraqs airports were suppose to open last summer. All these delays do nothing to improve the situation.

[FAST1]

I had heard that Iraq was taking bids on fixing some aircraft there. I don't know anything more though..

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Needs an open international airport. Beirut international was opened throughout their civil war, and that was dangerous. I cant believe the situation in Iraq is worse.

[FAST1]

I will try to find some current info on the airport. :wave:

[FAST1]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030405-saddam-iap01.htm :confused:

Wrong language and isn't even current! This may be harder than I thought. :rolleye03

[FAST1]

http://www.dreamiraq.com/

:rolleye03

?????????

[danpeg]

Translated using babel fish: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr


Welcome on Bagdad international

Airport is for American troops important bridge head

(http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=nl_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.globalsecurity.org%2fmilita ry%2fworld%2firaq%2fbaghdad.htm)


QATAR (reuters, ap) -- the inname of Saddam international Airport is a large success for the American military operation in Iraq. She provides potentially a large military basis to the American soldiers on to invoke extra soldiers and aid for the population of the capital weapons.

TANKS of the 3rd Infanteriedivisie rolled gisterenmorgen by the entrance to the airport, along a large portrait of Saddam Hoessein which welcomes the visitors with its rechterhand.

The inname of Saddam international Airport -- that the US meanwhile renamed international to Bagdad -- are of large strategic importance. The strategy of the American and British soldiers exists by means of the conquest of Iraqi fly fields the transport of stocks to the front lines easier make. Thus Thursday a first American fuelling couple on a fly field on six kilometres of Nasiriya landed, where Navy attempt still resistance hearths row from. The most important job of the international airport is 3,900 meters long and according to American soldiers in good state, so that also the largest military transport planes can land there. There is also a second job of 2,400 meters, which Iraqi fighting planes used ever.

Moreover the airport is very attractive by its position: on only twenty kilometres of the centre of Bagdad. If the US their soldiers can heavily material and humanitarian aid fly over, to Saddam international Airport, win them hours and perhaps even summon compared to transport concerning the way as from airports deeper in the south.

Moreover the American soldiers can use the airport as an operating base for the conquest of Bagdad. This is a very large area directly in the buurt of Bagdad. American soldiers can collect itself there, realign and operations to launch, says to John Pike, military an analyst at GlobalSecurity.org.

The open area around the airport can service do as the perfect buffer between the airport and the suburbs of Bagdad, where Iraqi strijders can keep themselves schuil. To the hangars to offer in abundance space to store stocks and tanks.

' it a perfect place would be Charles Heyman van Jane's World Armies explained for a commando centre '. The communication resources are well. It lies on a perfect distance of the town centre.

For up to that point is in Bagdad, must the American soldiers succeed in also getting the area around the airport under control. transport planes of the type c 130 is during landing an ideal target for Iraqi soldiers with air anti-aircraft guns. For this reason the US now rapidly the ground luchtraketten will attempt eliminate around Bagdad.

But the bezetting of the airport also psychologically forms a slap for the regime of Saddam Hoessein. Thursday afternoon was still brought about forty foreign journalists from Bagdad to the airport, to contradict that to the American statement Vs-troepen close Saddam international Airport sat. ' they lie ', said to minister of information Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf.

Some hours later beat citizens from the suburbs round Bagdad on the flight for the fightings, direction centre of the city, their carriages filled with dekens and property. For the population of Bagdad the this indicator that was American/the British invasion troops the voordeur of the capital has reached.

' the enemy attempts come in Bagdad ', read Al-Sahaf to gisterenmorgen a communication of Saddam Hoessein. Them, broeders, finds them day and night and lets the country of Moslems ' gains a being scorched fire for their feet be.'

Under the airport, which became in 1985, built, American soldiers found also a tunnel system of which a part runs in the direction of the tigris. ' the bldg. dates from a time that the Iraqi top flew regulated to the foreign country ', explained Toby dead, Irak-expert to the university of Warwick (Great Britain), to the BBC. ' it me would not astonish that they had a type of protected complex to wait to them to border of their flights went.'



Copyright. 2003. VUM group

[FAST1]

Translated using babel fish: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr

Thanks! Not exactly what me and Saddam were looking for but....

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

But no carrier goes to Baghdad. This is not acceptable. I just dont understand why the airport is not up and running at this point. If the US along with the interm government want foreign investment in Iraq, having an international airport operating is close to number 1. Another close number 1 is having the port of Basra running at capacity. Lack of shipping seaports is also hurting Iraq.
So,
Highways in Iraq are deadly
No airports open for commerce
Seaports operating a minimal levels
This is not how one would welcome investments

[tazish]

I would be glad to help any way I can to find you a ticket on a low flying U.S. aircraft around Baghdad. A round trip fare would probably not be necessary.

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

How can the US be serious about the "new" Iraq if the airport is not open?

[goacs]

This gives some info on travel to Iraq

[goacs]

Sorry
http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/ayeariniraq.html then click airports in blue box on right

[neptune]

Baghdad Airport Returns to Civilian Control

September 12, 2004

This turnover is the first step towards re-establishing Iraq as an international hub.

Now that the largest airport in Iraq has returned to civilian control, commercial airline raffic will be established for the first time in Iraqi history.

The turnover began in June, beginning with the air traffic control tower, and checkpoints, to a final exchange of the main gate. Prior to the exchange very limited in commercial traffic was permitted.

Commercial air travel will allow Iraq to become a prominent nation once again, to return to world levels of commerce, trade, and international travel

[goacs]

Or try this one

http://www.export.gov/iraq/bus_climate/travel_faq.html#E

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Fellas,
All this propaganda from the US government still doesnt cut it. I along with thousands of others wanting to fly to Iraq are unable to at this time. We cannot book any flights on Royal Jordanian, Iraqi Airways, KLM, MEA, Italia, or any other air carrier because not one is able to offer passenger service to Iraq today. Yes there are some carriers who do manage flights in Iraq for contractors, military, humanitarian reasons. Yet for the average person no one has yet to offer any flights. This is not acceptable if Iraq is every going to start to prosper.
I suspect the reason is the same as it was last spring when that DHL plane lost a chunk of its wing due to SAMs.

[tazish]

You could fly on a scud missile to get there

[Jeffrey]

Fellas,
All this propaganda from the US government still doesnt cut it. I along with thousands of others wanting to fly to Iraq are unable to at this time. We cannot book any flights on Royal Jordanian, Iraqi Airways, KLM, MEA, Italia, or any other air carrier because not one is able to offer passenger service to Iraq today. Yes there are some carriers who do manage flights in Iraq for contractors, military, humanitarian reasons. Yet for the average person no one has yet to offer any flights. This is not acceptable if Iraq is every going to start to prosper.
I suspect the reason is the same as it was last spring when that DHL plane lost a chunk of its wing due to SAMs.


"Thousands of people wanting to fly to Iraq right now"????? Call me silly.....but I really don't think so.

[Aunt Gwennie]

Fellas,
All this propaganda from the US government still doesnt cut it. I along with thousands of others wanting to fly to Iraq are unable to at this time. We cannot book any flights on Royal Jordanian, Iraqi Airways, KLM, MEA, Italia, or any other air carrier because not one is able to offer passenger service to Iraq today. Yes there are some carriers who do manage flights in Iraq for contractors, military, humanitarian reasons. Yet for the average person no one has yet to offer any flights. This is not acceptable if Iraq is every going to start to prosper.
I suspect the reason is the same as it was last spring when that DHL plane lost a chunk of its wing due to SAMs.

If you are not able to book a flight....it would seem to me the problem is not because the airport is not open and operating....it would mean that the commercial airlines are not willing to take the risk of flying into Iraq. Not to mention, there has to be a substantial demand for people to want to fly into Iraq. It would not be profitable at all to fly a handful of people into Iraq on a daily basis. I just don't think the demand is there yet for the major airlines to set up daily flight schedules into Iraq.

The sooner they get the destructive weapons out of the hands of the few who want to keep Iraq in total chaos....the sooner the things will start to really happen in Iraq!

Aunt Gwennie

[PennStateMtnMan]

Fellas,
All this propaganda from the US government still doesnt cut it. I along with thousands of others wanting to fly to Iraq are unable to at this time. We cannot book any flights on Royal Jordanian, Iraqi Airways, KLM, MEA, Italia, or any other air carrier because not one is able to offer passenger service to Iraq today. Yes there are some carriers who do manage flights in Iraq for contractors, military, humanitarian reasons. Yet for the average person no one has yet to offer any flights. This is not acceptable if Iraq is every going to start to prosper.
I suspect the reason is the same as it was last spring when that DHL plane lost a chunk of its wing due to SAMs.


After you make a boat load of money off of your Dinars, then purchase your own twin engine plane and fly to Iraq as often as you want.

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Yes people, here in Michigan home to the largest Iraqi exile group in the world there are thousands who wish to travel to Iraq. In Detroit there isnt a consulate office opened yet. It is as though the US government is doing all it can to prevent any investment by Iraqi exiles. So to answer all questions regarding demand, YES there is demand here in Michigan

[CramptonMotorsports]

why michigan? you guys like fudge or something?

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Dont know why, but that's how it is. More here in Michigan, than either California, or New York. There are about 400,000 middle eastern people in Michigan. Most are Iraqi, Lebanese, Yemeni.

[CramptonMotorsports]

Iraqi's should come to LA, everyone seems to have a "----town" or "----district"

Iraqi's are gonna get fat living in Michigan. :D

sorry about the fat middle american stereotype ;)

[Jeffrey]

Yes people, here in Michigan home to the largest Iraqi exile group in the world there are thousands who wish to travel to Iraq. In Detroit there isnt a consulate office opened yet. It is as though the US government is doing all it can to prevent any investment by Iraqi exiles. So to answer all questions regarding demand, YES there is demand here in Michigan

After looking at my post earlier....I didnt make my comment clear. I have no doubt that there is a demand for flights to Iraq, for whatever reason. What I meant was, would people actually go right now with the danger that seems to be everywhere in the streets??

As it stands today....Mr Jeffrey would not be sitting on a 747 coming in for a landing at Baghdad Intl Airport.....that big old plane would make a mighty tempting target for some.

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Yes the demand is here in Michigan now.
The demand is really hot for those wanting out too. The only way in or out of Iraq now is through Syria or Jordan for most Iraqi. I havent heard too many going through Kuwait or Iran.

[seattle]

when i left bagdad we were shot at with a sam ......I think it's a little early for tourist flight's :o

[usajmg93f]

I have flown in and out of Baghdad International at least 50 times, and it never failed that we would always take small arms fire... Just glad my luck was better than theirs..:-)

[Aunt Gwennie]

Yes the demand is here in Michigan now.
The demand is really hot for those wanting out too. The only way in or out of Iraq now is through Syria or Jordan for most Iraqi. I havent heard too many going through Kuwait or Iran.

are all of you willing to sign a waiver releasing the airlines from all liability if the plane gets shot out of the air? Not to mention, how many pilots and stews do you think will be standing in line to work the flight?

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

you people are telling me that Baghdad international is still "hot?" Looking back at history I dont think Saigon was this bad?

[FAST1]

you people are telling me that Baghdad international is still "hot?" Looking back at history I dont think Saigon was this bad?


I have a plan, why don't you make some phone calls and tell'em to "knock it off!" :)

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Could easily clear a safe zone around Baghdad international. Wait, that would create too many insurgent deaths. Better to pass out hersey bars than to upset the natives shooting at the planes.

[FAST1]

Could easily clear a safe zone around Baghdad international. Wait, that would create too many insurgent deaths. Better to pass out hersey bars than to upset the natives shooting at the planes.

I'm with you, I'll pass out candy bars until someone tries to kidnap me! :no:

[mb55tech]

ya know, sometimes it's good to get into a discussion....and sometimes it's good to just sit back and enjoy the show!!!

the candy bar bit was too funny!!!! :D

[FAST1]

ya know, sometimes it's good to get into a discussion....and sometimes it's good to just sit back and enjoy the show!!!

the candy bar bit was too funny!!!! :D


As much as you hope for an A-10 warthog to take out some idiots, it helps to have a sense of humor.

I suggest a Marathon Bar (caramel)- it takes longer to eat and the A-10's would have more time to get on station! :D

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

The strategy on wining is what? Bomb, shoot, run, hide, duck, roll, drive, smile, then leave? Unemployed young men with nothing to do, armed to the teeth, sounds like Compton to me :drunk:

[CramptonMotorsports]

man, why's everyone always doggin out South Central LA?

Compton's not that bad, not any worse than anywhere else, actually alot better than most other big city's bad areas nowday's. Not to "normal" people though I guess. Maybe it's because I've been going down into the "bad areas" since I was in High School for football games, parties/raves and street racing. Sure if you look out of place or scared or whatever to the wrong people, then yeah they'll mess with you, but random acts of violence aren't any worse there than anywhere else, including suburbs filled with dumb white kids, in fact in my experience, random violence for no reason happens more in affluent areas, criminal's usually have a reason.

yes I'm "white", no I don't live in South Central.

[Iraqi Al Yahud]

Instead of Compton, I'll say Detroit