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Alasad PGen4
02-07-2009, 10:41 AM
Lawmakers in 20 states move to reclaim sovereignty
Obama's $1 trillion deficit-spending 'stimulus plan' seen as last straw

Posted: February 06, 2009
11:50 pm Eastern



By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
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Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Randy BrogdonNEW YORK – As the Obama administration attempts to push through Congress a nearly $1 trillion deficit spending plan that is weighted heavily toward advancing typically Democratic-supported social welfare programs, a rebellion against the growing dominance of federal control is beginning to spread at the state level.
So far, eight states have introduced resolutions declaring state sovereignty under the Ninth and Tenth Amendment to the Constitution, including Arizona (http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm), Hawaii (http://hawaiianconstitutionalconvention.com/), Montana (http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/2009/billhtml/HB0246.htm), Michigan (http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(21rmjiv1sl0wvw55yxurwl55))/documents/2009-2010/Journal/House/pdf/2009-HJ-01-22-002.pdf), Missouri (http://www.house.mo.gov/content.aspx?info=/bills091/bills/HR212.HTM), New Hampshire (http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/legislation/2009/HCR0006.html), Oklahoma (http://axiomamuse.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/state-legislator-charles-key-wants-to-limit-federal-power/) and Washington (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?year=2009&bill=4009).
Analysts expect that in addition, another 20 states may see similar measures introduced this year (http://www.fontcraft.com/rod/?p=849), including Alaska, Alabama, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Nevada, Maine and Pennsylvania.
"What we are trying to do is to get the U.S. Congress out of the state's business," Oklahoma Republican state Sen. Randy Brogdon (http://www.oksenate.gov/Senators/biographies/brogdon_bio.html) told WND.
"Congress is completely out of line spending trillions of dollars over the last 10 years putting the nation into a debt crisis like we've never seen before," Brogdon said, arguing that the Obama stimulus plan is the last straw taxing state patience in the brewing sovereignty dispute.
"This particular 111th Congress is the biggest bunch of over-reachers and underachievers we've ever had in Congress," he said.
"A sixth-grader should realize you can't borrow money to pay off your debt, and that is the Obama administration's answer for a stimulus package," he added.
The Ninth Amendment reads, "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
The Tenth Amendment specifically provides, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Brogdon, the lead sponsor of the Oklahoma state senate version of the sovereignty bill, has been a strong opponent of extending the plan to build a four-football-fields-wide Trans-Texas Corridor parallel to Interstate-35 to Oklahoma, as WND reported (http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57915).
Rollback federal authority
The various sovereignty measures moving through state legislatures are designed to reassert state authority through a rollback of federal authority under the powers enumerated in the Constitution, with the states assuming the governance of the non-enumerated powers, as required by the Tenth Amendment.
The state sovereignty measures, aimed largely at the perceived fiscal irresponsibility of Congress in the administrations of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, have gained momentum with the $1 trillion deficit-spending economic stimulus package the Obama administration is currently pushing through Congress.
Particularly disturbing to many state legislators are the increasing number of "unfunded mandates" that have proliferated in social welfare programs, such as Medicare and Medicaid, in which bills passed by Congress dictate policy to the states without providing funding.
In addition, the various state resolutions include discussion of a wide range of policy areas, including the regulation of firearms sales (Montana) and the demand to issue drivers licenses with technology to embed personal information under the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative and the Real ID Act (Michigan).
Hawaii's measure calls for a new state constitutional convention to return self-governance, a complaint that traces back to the days it was a U.S. territory, prior to achieving statehood in 1959.
"We are trying to send a message to the federal government that the states are trying to reclaim their sovereignty," Republican Rep. Matt Shea (http://www.houserepublicans.wa.gov/shea/biography.htm), the lead sponsor of Washington's sovereignty resolution told WND.
"State sovereignty has been eroded in so many areas, it's hard to know where to start," he said. "There are a ton of federal mandates imposed on states, for instance, on education spending and welfare spending."
Shea said the Obama administration's economic stimulus package moving through Congress is a "perfect example."
"In the state of Washington, we have increased state spending 33 percent in the last three years and hired 6,000 new state employees, often using federal mandates as an excuse to grow state government," he said. "We need to return government back down to the people, to keep government as close to the local people as possible."
Shea is a private attorney who serves with the Alliance Defense Fund, a nationwide network of about 1,000 attorneys who work pro-bono. As a counter to the ACLU, the alliance seeks to protect and defend religious liberty, the sanctity of life and traditional family values.
Republican state Rep. Judy Burges, the primary sponsor of the sovereignty resolution in the Arizona House, told WND the federal government "has been trouncing on our constitutional rights."
"The real turning point for me was the Real ID act, which involved both a violation of the Fourth Amendments rights against the illegal searches and seizures and the Tenth Amendment," she said.
Burges told WND she is concerned that the overreaching of federal powers could lead to new legislation aimed at confiscating weapons from citizens or encoding ammunition.
"The Real ID Act was so broadly written that we are afraid that it involves the potential for "mission-creep," that could easily involve confiscation of firearms and violations of the Second Amendment," she said.
Burges said she has been surprised at the number of e-mails she has received in support of the sovereignty measure.
"We are a sovereign state in Arizona, not a branch of the federal government, and we need to be treated as such, she insisted.

Wolverine
02-07-2009, 10:53 AM
I don't see Texas on the list, I may have to relocate.

If Texas had any real leadership , we would secede !

Alasad PGen4
02-07-2009, 10:59 AM
I don't see Texas on the list, I may have to relocate.

If Texas had any real leadership , we would secede !
I here ya Wolverine no N.C for me either may re-locate also.

Fishindinar
02-07-2009, 11:34 AM
Great stuff:cool-too:.

Betty
02-07-2009, 03:34 PM
If the states separate from the government, can they dismiss or recall their state senators, legislators, maybe even some governers, etc. and have new state elections to put honest people (if they can find some) in office? If so, then their present senators, etc. would be out of a job in congress? And, the new ones won't be in congress, just in the state, which would eventually colapse the present congress. They can also start a new party, or just abolish the existing parties.

I hope you can understand what I am getting at; I'm having a senior moment trying to explain what I mean. :thinking:

Betty

Rob N.
02-07-2009, 07:31 PM
All,

In my view, it is coming. A new civil war in order re-establish states rights. This is the cause that I will fight for. We will havs those states supporting the constitution and those supporting the union. We all will have to make a choice on which side of the fight we are on.

Thanks,

Rob N.

Howler
02-07-2009, 07:44 PM
I don't see Texas on the list, I may have to relocate.

If Texas had any real leadership , we would secede !


I always heard Texas was a "republic".
They could and would be the first to leave. They would also be the strongest territory in North America. I have been seriously considering moving there for a while now. IMO when the crap hits the fan, Texas would be the place to be.

GypsyRose
02-07-2009, 07:47 PM
I always heard Texas was a "republic".
They could and would be the first to leave. They would also be the strongest territory in North America. I have been seriously considering moving there for a while now. IMO when the crap hits the fan, Texas would be the place to be.

LOL I was going to agree and say we need a compound, but then I remember what the Dems did to Waco :wink:

Howler
02-07-2009, 07:53 PM
LOL I was going to agree and say we need a compound, but then I remember what the Dems did to Waco :wink:



If Texas was to leave, that crap would never happen again.
You know how much heavy artillery, tanks, and world class air craft is in Texas? :muscle:
I think with the members in this forum we could have a pretty formidable compound!

GypsyRose
02-07-2009, 07:56 PM
If Texas was to leave, that crap would never happen again.
You know how much heavy artillery, tanks, and world class air craft is in Texas? :muscle:
I think with the members in this forum we could have a pretty formidable compound!

Sign me up we can call it a RV party and barn raising !!!:giggle:

Howler
02-07-2009, 08:00 PM
Sign me up we can call it a RV party and barn raising !!!:giggle:



ixnay on the ompoundcay!:shhh:


I see the black suburbans coming now.:eek:
Its easy, they have the only visible lights for miles!:headbang:

Grizzly Bear
02-07-2009, 08:28 PM
In total agreement with these patriot states!!! But have one question....How come none of this is hitting the airwaves???

Fishindinar
02-07-2009, 10:44 PM
Do you think the federal government would want that info in all the press releases?

Betty
02-07-2009, 10:48 PM
Maybe we should e-mail Glen Beck??

AbuSpinoza
02-07-2009, 11:01 PM
Texas fact

Texas is the only state with a legal right to secede from the Union. (Reference the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848.)
They don't have to be on any list.

panhead
02-17-2009, 03:57 AM
Texas fact

Texas is the only state with a legal right to secede from the Union. (Reference the Texas-American Annexation Treaty of 1848.)
They don't have to be on any list.

Didn't that change at the end of the Civil War when they had to swear allegiance to the US?

Wolverine
02-17-2009, 10:20 AM
If Texas was to leave, that crap would never happen again.
You know how much heavy artillery, tanks, and world class air craft is in Texas? :muscle:
I think with the members in this forum we could have a pretty formidable compound!

That's likely, secretly, got something to do with the decision to relocate the 4th I.D. to Fort Carson, Colorado !

Nidster
02-20-2009, 12:46 AM
Freedom is a fragile thing and is never more than one generation away from
extinction. It is not ours by inheritance; it must be fought for and
defended constantly by each generation, for it comes only once to a people.
Those who have known freedom, and then lost it, have never known it again.

Ronald Reagan

Lots of good Texans and others in America. Make a stand for liberty!!!!