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[Lux]

WE ARE...
PENN STATE!!!

Big 10's Top 10 Players


#1

Paul Posluszny, LB
Sr., Penn State

As a junior he went from relative unknown to Bednarik Award winner
as the nation's top defensive player.
"Poz" compiled 116 tackles, including 11 for loss.



http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.cfb.big10/images/Posluszny2.jpg

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.cfb.big10/content.10.html
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.cfb.big10/content.10.html)
:happy64:

[CaddieMan]

sec Dude!!!!

[CaddieMan]

What is Joe Pa..............150 years old!!!!!!!!!

[CaddieMan]

Very one knows that Joe Pa does not run that team any more he should have retired 5 years ago. ........................ Sad............Very Sad!!!!!

[Lux]

Very one knows that Joe Pa does not run that team any more he should have retired 5 years ago. ........................ Sad............Very Sad!!!!!

He runs it now and will be running it for another 10!

Tell Bowden to give it up all ready!

JoePa will be at the top of that mountain when it's all said and done!



:lmao:

[usajmg93f]

War Eagle, no need to say anything more. I was so thrilled to see them ahead of USC in the preseason!!! This could be our year.

[PennStateMtnMan]

What is Joe Pa..............150 years old!!!!!!!!!


Does it matter?

Name another coach that has more Division 1A wins? And don't even say bowden, quite a few of his wins were in Division 1AA against teams like the Naval Air Station. LOL

[Lonestar]

Lets talk about a real team the Longhorns!!!!! Excellent chance for a repeat this year. Depth at receiver is 7 deep. The only question is can Colt pull it off? It should be an interesting season. Brown redshirts most freshmen on scholarship so they can grow and mature one season prior to playing. Its all good down here!

[sugardave]

I'm stoked. After Ohio State comes here in week 2, it's all downhill ;)

[The Sultan of Sod]

Hook'em horns have got nothing this year. It's all about the Pac 10 this year. Roll BEARS.

[CaddieMan]

War Eagle, no need to say anything more. I was so thrilled to see them ahead of USC in the preseason!!! This could be our year.


GA Bulldogs might have something to say about that! Any way will will agree that from top to bottom the SEC is the hardest conference BY FAR!:wave:

[hunterdbk]

Joe Pa is a class act...pure and simple...in NCAA Football, education, sportsmanship, and just a dam fine person...I'm with you Sportslux!!!

[justin082005]

I am a Maryland fan so I can not like PSU...and actually regardless think they are little too cocky too soon. 2 winning seasons since what 2000?

Anyways, I just want Maryland to do decent and the Terps to beat WVU (OVER RANKED!!!)

[usajmg93f]

I'm stoked. After Ohio State comes here in week 2, it's all downhill ;)


That is going to be a great game so early in the season.

[Lonestar]

It has been years since I have seen the hype of the Sept 2 game at Darrel Royal Mermorial Stadium. It's going to be a good one with the Longhorns coming out on top. They are even printing in the papers today guidelines for the fans not to be mean to Buckeye fans. Not that Texas fans are bad but last year when we went there they were very poor on the sportsmanship side. HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!

[Lux]

I am a Maryland fan so I can not like PSU...and actually regardless think they are little too cocky too soon. 2 winning seasons since what 2000?

Anyways, I just want Maryland to do decent and the Terps to beat WVU (OVER RANKED!!!)
You can't like PSU because they beat Maryland for like 30 years straight.

Penn State as much football tradition over the past 40 years as any other school. Penn State has ALOT MORE to strut about than the past few years, though we can say that Larry Johnson is a Nittany Lion.

http://images.sportsnetwork.com/football/college/allsport/big10/pennstate/johnson_larry3.jpg

Tip: If you don't pick Larry with your #1 Fantasy Football pick, then you are not winning your league. :D

If you need the list of great players, I'm sure PSMM will be more than happy to oblige.

<slaps PSMM hand and exits the ring>


I'm actually a Terp Basketball Fan - been so since the Bias days - one of the saddest days of my life is when he died.

[PennStateMtnMan]

I am a Maryland fan so I can not like PSU...and actually regardless think they are little too cocky too soon. 2 winning seasons since what 2000?

Anyways, I just want Maryland to do decent and the Terps to beat WVU (OVER RANKED!!!)

Maryland has had more loosing seasons in 10 years than PSU has had in 50 years.

People were suprised that PSU slipped to mediocracy in 2000, 2001, 2003 and 2004. Maryland just wishes they weren't mediocracy. Penn State has earned the right to be cocky. We are one of the top 5 most storied programs in NCAA history. Maryland who?

[hunterdbk]

Where's Mary-land??

[pvpeacock]

USC
2003-4 AP National Champions
2004-5 BCS National Champions
2005-6 Harris Poll National Champions
2006-7 USC will Fourpete!!!!!!!
:happy64: :happy64:

[Lonestar]

Your title should read For Petes sake. I do not see that happening however nothing can be ruled out on any given Saturday. College ball in my opinion surpasses anything these overpaid professional primadonnas can give you. Most are not worth their money anyway. Must leave with HOOK 'EM!!!

[justin082005]

I don't doubt PSU is good now...although I don't think OSU wins their conf. this year. Yes they have been great for years but it would be like me on here after 2001, 2002, and 2003 talking about how amazing Maryland is again...I know MD will take a while to rebuild and while PSU might not....I just don't think they are that good yet

[pvpeacock]

Fox Sports predicts the BCS title game this year will be USC vs. Auburn. What did I say? Fourpete!:happy64: Any other Trojans out there? Fight On!

[usajmg93f]

Saw ole Lee Corso predicted a CAL v/s WVU matchup for the BCS Title....:rolleye03

[Lux]

Someday college football might figure out what a playoff system is.

Imagine how exciting that would be.

[PennStateMtnMan]

Ok, here is a good article from last season concerning USC's so called three pete.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news;_ylt=Au_aOp665BZGgv8wTLUFdu0cvrYF?slug=dw-usc3peat122205&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The surest bet of college football's annual overload of wild and woolly bowl action is simple, Southern California will not capture a third consecutive national championship, no matter what everyone keeps saying.

Oh, the Trojans may defeat Texas in January's Rose Bowl, host site for this season's Bowl Championship Series title game, but only hype or revisionist history says it would mean a three-peat for SC.

A second title? Sure. Pete Carroll's team whipped Oklahoma last year in the title game to win it all. Do it again and you get back-to-back.

But that certainly isn't three, because the year before it was LSU coach Nick Saban (not Carroll) who hoisted that ugly glass football that goes to the "champion" of the national system that each Division I-A football program (USC included) agrees each season to play under.

Why everyone is saying otherwise is beyond me.


Regular readers know that you can't oppose or detest the BCS more than I do. They also know that in December of 2003 we called Oklahoma's selection over USC into the title game against LSU "a fraud."

But our sympathy to SC's plight back then doesn't change the basic reality of sports, namely that the rules are the rules are the rules. In 2003, just as last year and this one, USC and its representatives of the Pacific 10 Conference, agreed that the system of determining the national champion of college football was the BCS.

That's how all sports work. Before the start of the season, everyone gets together and determines how to crown a champion. Some leagues, such as the NBA or NHL, have a series of playoff series. Some, such as the NFL, have a single elimination tournament. Some, such as NCAA hoops, have bigger fields. Some, such as major league baseball, have smaller ones.

College football's is the most controversial because it is the most ridiculous, designed to protect long standing power and profit in six major conferences (including the Pac 10) rather than equitably determining a champion. Fans hate it. Players hate it. Most coaches hate it.

None of which matters. The powers-that-be who count the money love it, or at least love it enough to agree to it every year. And back in 2003, once Pac 10 Commissioner Tom Hansen, on behalf of USC, did that, the Trojans had to live with the result.

That meant a complicated formula weighing computer stats and human polls determined that LSU and Oklahoma got to play in the championship game even though they, like, USC, had suffered a loss. Most people thought USC was better than OU, but the system factored more than what most people thought. The computers liked OU and once that happened, USC had no claim, ever, to the 2003 national championship.

Yes, the Trojans wound up being crowned champs by the Associated Press pollsters, which is fine and dandy, but that has no official bearing on anything. Before the 1997 creation of the BCS, the AP was about all anyone had, so it is understandable why teams cited its results. But post-'97 it is meaningless.

The agreed upon system was and is the BCS, not the BCS or a popularity contest if it turns out a certain team doesn't like the BCS. You can't rewrite the rules after the fact just because it benefits you.

Now, we understand why the Trojans would lay claim to the 2003 title. The BCS is so pathetic, untrustworthy and impossibly bad, it is human nature to just selectively ignore it. But intellectually it doesn't work that way. The official 2003 champion was LSU.

Why the media says (and will say it a million times in the next two weeks) USC won it all that year is baffling because it certainly isn't factual. I guess if everyone repeats the lie long enough, they no longer think they are lying. Who knows?

It is not like the silly formula hasn't assisted SC through the years. While it is my opinion the BCS screwed them back in 2003, it's also my opinion that it helped them last year. It was then that the formula decided that USC and Oklahoma should play for the title while three other undefeated teams sat out, Utah, Boise State and, most formidably, Auburn.

USC pounded an OU team that was the puffed up product of a weak Big Twelve Conference. It wasn't the Trojans fault, but the reality is they got a cupcake championship game. Considering what Auburn's two great running backs (Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams) are currently doing to NFL defenses, is there any doubt the Tigers would have been a much more formidable opponent?

That's the thing with the BCS, some years it helps, some years it hurts. Given the chance, maybe USC would have won it all in 2003. But maybe Auburn would have won it in 2004. We'll never know.

As long as we have the system we have, we can only go with the facts, no matter what the newspapers and television analysts say. In this case, USC and their 34-game and two-Heisman win streak are gunning for their second consecutive national title.

Win the Rose Bowl and next season they can go for the three-peat.


Dan Wetzel is Yahoo! Sports' national columnist.

[PennStateMtnMan]

What I don't get is why USC is trying to take away the National Championship that LSU won outright in 2003. That is like little Johnny playing T-Ball. His team doesn't make it to the championship game, but little Johnny's mother comforts him by saying "Awww, don't worry little Johnny, your a champion as well."

Hey, I just thought of something. Penn State was the NY Times National Champions in 1994, I guess we can add that as one of our National Championship seasons.

[Lux]

USC

2003-4 AP National Champions
2004-5 BCS National Champions
2005-6 Harris Poll National Champions
2006-7 USC will Fourpete!!!!!!!

There is no such thing as a Harris Poll National Champion. The last poll they took was after 12 games. There's the little matter of that last game called the National Championship you are over looking.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/college_football/images/060104young-winner-smh.jpg

No 4-peat when you didn't even 3-peat! :lmao::lmao:

By your standards, the Indianapolis Colts (14-2) would be looking to "repeat" as NFL Champions as well. :p

[pvpeacock]

My eyes, my eyes! They're burning! Ohhhhhhh the humanity! That picture has sent me into a panic attack....... Must find paper bag. Deep breaths, 1,2,3, 1,2,3. Cool moss, cool moss, cool moss. Must reach mouse.........got it. Move cursor over X and cli...........

[PennStateMtnMan]

There is no such thing as a Harris Poll National Champion. The last poll they took was after 12 games. There's the little matter of that last game called the National Championship you are over looking.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/college_football/images/060104young-winner-smh.jpg

No 4-peat when you didn't even 3-peat! :lmao::lmao:

By your standards, the Indianapolis Colts (14-2) would be looking to "repeat" as NFL Champions as well. :p


Actually, USC needs to have a Two-Peat before they can have a three peat.

[Lux]

Actually, USC needs to have a Two-Peat before they can have a three peat.

You're right!

So I guess they are working on a one-peat this year......am I right?


http://lifedistilled.com/images/184/onepeat_billboard.jpg


My eyes, my eyes! They're burning! Ohhhhhhh the humanity! That picture has sent me into a panic attack....... Must find paper bag. Deep breaths, 1,2,3, 1,2,3. Cool moss, cool moss, cool moss. Must reach mouse.........got it. Move cursor over X and cli...........

sorry pvpeacock :o

Your's was a very funny post though :lmao:

[PennStateMtnMan]

That is hillarious. I love the billboard!!!!! :lmao:

[PennStateMtnMan]

I guess I am a thread killer. People just can't beat PENN STATE!!!! :p

[usajmg93f]

what gives?? Take a look at the latest AP Polls. Why does USC move up past Auburn when Auburn also easily won their game against Washington State?? Oh well guess we will have to keep proving the pollsters wrong. Kenny Irons rushes for 183 yards and a total yards of 224 yds, yet Peterson gets more hype as well.

[CaddieMan]

what gives?? Take a look at the latest AP Polls. Why does USC move up past Auburn when Auburn also easily won their game against Washington State?? Oh well guess we will have to keep proving the pollsters wrong. Kenny Irons rushes for 183 yards and a total yards of 224 yds, yet Peterson gets more hype as well.

The left coast teams are always over rated! They play nobody year in and year out! Put USC in the SEC and they have one to two losses every year! Look no farther than Tenn / Cal game. Cal people even admitted that they never played in a place like that before and were very intimidated!.........Welcome to the SEC left coast! We see that every week. GA, Fla, Ala-dam-bama, Auburn, Tenn, the other USC, LSU!...............Cal plays who?;)

[CaddieMan]

BB's got a pick-em league set up on the NFL thread if any one wants to join!

[Lonestar]

All I know is Colt surprised quite a few with his scramble int he second quarter. When we get past the Buckeyes this weekend we will be chasing back to back championships and the naysayers who said Vince was the only reason we got there will eat crow. Sorry Lakeway I do not have any extra tickets for this one. It would be great to discuss the two most important topics of my life while tailgating on Saturday. If the rumor hits tomorrow I may just get a brand new RV for this Saturdays game. That would be nice. HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!!!!!!!!

[Okie]

All I know is Colt surprised quite a few with his scramble int he second quarter. When we get past the Buckeyes this weekend we will be chasing back to back championships and the naysayers who said Vince was the only reason we got there will eat crow. Sorry Lakeway I do not have any extra tickets for this one. It would be great to discuss the two most important topics of my life while tailgating on Saturday. If the rumor hits tomorrow I may just get a brand new RV for this Saturdays game. That would be nice. HOOK 'EM HORNS!!!!!!!!!!

Even though I'm from Okie land I'll be rooting for the horns to stick it to the Buckeyes.....but when the Boomer Sooners hit town I'll have to switch sides...fair enough?

[BBbucks]

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but if there are any NFL fans interested, we are starting up an NFL Pick Em league called "IIF TEAM REVAL" on Yahoo.
You can join up until 8:25 EST Thurs Night to get in your picks for Week one.
We can have up to 50 members if there is enough interest. Just picking winners, no point spreads or anything. Should be fun! :)

http://www.investorsiraq.com/221157-post30.html


Ok…now back to your regularly scheduled NCAA postings… :wave:

[Lonestar]

Works for me Okie. I still think Oklahoma is on the rebuild although they have had some great teams in the past. Gave us more trouble in the past years than anyone.

[Archangel]

RUTGERS FOOTBALL is coming beware.... LOL ..... I hope at least

[hunterdbk]

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but if there are any NFL fans interested, we are starting up an NFL Pick Em league called "IIF TEAM REVAL" on Yahoo.
You can join up until 8:25 EST Thurs Night to get in your picks for Week one.
We can have up to 50 members if there is enough interest. Just picking winners, no point spreads or anything. Should be fun! :)

http://www.investorsiraq.com/221157-post30.html


Ok…now back to your regularly scheduled NCAA postings… :wave:

I rushed over to join that Pick-em league thinking there would be a whole bunch of people in ti and I'm the only one in so far.....where is everybody?

[LakewayDaze!]

Fox Sports predicts the BCS title game this year will be USC vs. Auburn. What did I say? Fourpete!:happy64: Any other Trojans out there? Fight On!


That was a really hilarious post there Peacock.

Sportslux I loved both your posts.

Peacock good luck with just winning the ocassional one.

BTW make sure and watch TEXAS end the buckeye season on saturday folks.

Penn what did have 70 yards rushing last week. Oh well maybe next year.....

[PennStateMtnMan]

Penn what did have 70 yards rushing last week. Oh well maybe next year.....


There has been a lot of concern about the run blocking of the line against Akron. As one observer put it, "The line worked their pass protection a ton in the preseason — protecting Anthony [Mreolli] was the biggest priority. I think they did a good job with that. Opening up lanes was worked on, but they were not running the single-back sets as much as we saw against Akron. The coaches did not want to uncover the run game, so they basically told Tony [Hunt] to go out and make the best of the situation, which is tough with a stacked line."

This week the offensive linemen are working on their lane creation with zone blocking, but are also working with a "fuller backfield," which has seen split and broken sets with the likes of Tony Hunt, Matt Hahn, Rodney Kinlaw, Dan Lawlor, A.J. Wallace Austin Scott and Derrick Williams. "There are some pretty crazy sets they have run," one observer shared. "Seeing Derrick, Tony and A.J. back there. If they actually run it [in a game] it will have defenses shaking their heads."

Hunt is still the clear starter with Kinlaw and Scott getting the remainder of the reps, although "Rodney seems like the backup still."

Viewed as an "X-factor" for the upcoming game, Williams has been run like "Rocket Ismail used to be — he's a motion man — he starts in the backfield shifts out to the slot, or he'll move to the wing or play a split back or step up under center." As another observer said, "Williams is an advantage that sets PSU apart. When you consider that Wallace could be another Williams-caliber player, it gets folks giddy. There's a reason some guys call the two Williams Wallace, remember the Mel Gibson character [from Braveheart] who everyone thought was 12 feet tall and shot lightening bolts out of his @$%? Well, defenses will be saying these guys are faster than a speeding bullet and can catch anything within 50 yards of them — how's that for hype?"

[Lux]

BTW make sure and watch TEXAS end the buckeye season on saturday folks.



It's funny because the BCS technically makes you root for your conference teams when it plays out of conference.

As much as I would like to see Texas beat OSU, it favors Penn St to have OSU win that game. It would strengthen the PSU schedule.

It will be a glorious day in sports history when college football goes to a playoff format. Imagine the ratings!

[Lux]

There has been a lot of concern about the run blocking of the line against Akron. As one observer put it, "The line worked their pass protection a ton in the preseason — protecting Anthony [Mreolli] was the biggest priority. I think they did a good job with that. Opening up lanes was worked on, but they were not running the single-back sets as much as we saw against Akron. The coaches did not want to uncover the run game, so they basically told Tony [Hunt] to go out and make the best of the situation, which is tough with a stacked line."

This week the offensive linemen are working on their lane creation with zone blocking, but are also working with a "fuller backfield," which has seen split and broken sets with the likes of Tony Hunt, Matt Hahn, Rodney Kinlaw, Dan Lawlor, A.J. Wallace Austin Scott and Derrick Williams. "There are some pretty crazy sets they have run," one observer shared. "Seeing Derrick, Tony and A.J. back there. If they actually run it [in a game] it will have defenses shaking their heads."

Hunt is still the clear starter with Kinlaw and Scott getting the remainder of the reps, although "Rodney seems like the backup still."

Viewed as an "X-factor" for the upcoming game, Williams has been run like "Rocket Ismail used to be — he's a motion man — he starts in the backfield shifts out to the slot, or he'll move to the wing or play a split back or step up under center." As another observer said, "Williams is an advantage that sets PSU apart. When you consider that Wallace could be another Williams-caliber player, it gets folks giddy. There's a reason some guys call the two Williams Wallace, remember the Mel Gibson character [from Braveheart] who everyone thought was 12 feet tall and shot lightening bolts out of his @$%? Well, defenses will be saying these guys are faster than a speeding bullet and can catch anything within 50 yards of them — how's that for hype?"


And they say Joe Pa is too old :lmao::lmao::lmao:

Gotta love it!!!

[CaddieMan]

And they say Joe Pa is too old :lmao::lmao::lmao:

Gotta love it!!!

Jo Pa does not run that team anymore and everybody knows it. His assistants do! He is just there now as a PR Man. He is the face of the program nothing more! Love to hear what he has to say when ND hands him his.............backside!:lmao:

[millertyme]

Can't stop the Trojans, they just reload and reload. Horns only had Young, and occasionally Sweed. Mcoy sucks, North Texas?? They haven't proved nothing...why does Texas always start with these weak teams.....Go OSU, Cut those horns off, cut them, hook them and hang them on the wall.

OSU ROLLS through Texas...

[CaddieMan]

Jo Pa does not run that team anymore and everybody knows it. His assistants do! He is just there now as a PR Man. He is the face of the program nothing more! Love to hear what he has to say when ND hands him his.............backside!:lmao:

I hate to tell you I told you SO!...............So I will not..............But does Jo Pa have a backside??:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[CaddieMan]

What is that smell................PU................OH it is just Pennstates jock straps all over the field!!!!!...............JO PA! JO PA! JO PA!

[CramptonMotorsports]

title game for the next 2 years

USC vs. OSU

[Lux]

I hate to tell you I told you SO!...............So I will not..............But does Jo Pa have a backside??:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Poke all the fun you want at ND beating the crap out of PSU, but you know nothing about Penn State Football if you think that Joe Pa is cariature.

He runs the program the same way he has for over 40 years. It's one of the most respected programs and nothing has changed. Why? Because it's his program and no one elses.

If you don't mind, please post your college football program. Stop talking to me about the SEC and pin your flag already.

[CaddieMan]

Poke all the fun you want at ND beating the crap out of PSU, but you know nothing about Penn State Football if you think that Joe Pa is cariature.

He runs the program the same way he has for over 40 years. It's one of the most respected programs and nothing has changed. Why? Because it's his program and no one elses.

If you don't mind, please post your college football program. Stop talking to me about the SEC and pin your flag already.


RECENT PRESS RELEASES


9.12.2006
Joe Paterno Press Conference Transcript What did you learn about your team on Saturday vs. Notre Dame?
We are pretty good. We didn’t learn how to win a big game. I think that comes a little bit with experience. I think we have a quarterback and a good, solid football team. We made too many mistakes. You can’t turn the ball over that many times. The little things that you look at…we never had any better field position to start the ball with than our own 30 and we gave it to Notre Dame. Notre Dame had the ball on the 46 yard line and so forth and gave them a fourth down (fake) punt. You have to give them credit for making that play. They picked up a fumble and ran it for a touchdown and that kind of thing. We didn’t get a turnover. Overall, we hung in there. We had a good practice yesterday. I think we are alright, but we still have to learn how to win a big game on the road.




Are you kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..............After that game he learned that he has "A good football team" To put up only 282 yards against the Akron Zips, give them 18 first downs, and get your butts handed to you by ND. Time for JoPa to hang it up!:confused: He has stayed about 5 years too long I am sad to say

[Lux]

(everything I can think of not to answer Lux' question)

I can only guess that you're a Vanderbilt fan! :lmao:

Gotta start somewhere. ;)

Hate on Joe Pa all you want. <yawn>

There isn't a coach in the SEC that can shine his shoes, even at 79. :shhh:
What Paterno hopes to be remembered for is graduating 84 percent of his players. That's 20 percent higher than the national average for all four-year college students. He does it with mandatory study halls and a zero-tolerance approach.

'Joe Pa's' Impact Goes Beyond Football, Legendary Penn State Coach Downplays His Achievements On The Field - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/13/eveningnews/main2007058.shtml)
I bet the cumulative grad rates in the SEC don't add up to 84 percent. Well atleast if you exclude Vandy! :lmao:

[CaddieMan]

I can only guess that you're a Vanderbilt fan! :lmao:

Gotta start somewhere. ;)

Hate on Joe Pa all you want. <yawn>

There isn't a coach in the SEC that can shine his shoes, even at 79. :shhh:
What Paterno hopes to be remembered for is graduating 84 percent of his players. That's 20 percent higher than the national average for all four-year college students. He does it with mandatory study halls and a zero-tolerance approach.

'Joe Pa's' Impact Goes Beyond Football, Legendary Penn State Coach Downplays His Achievements On The Field - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/13/eveningnews/main2007058.shtml)
I bet the cumulative grad rates in the SEC don't add up to 84 percent. Well atleast if you exclude Vandy! :lmao:


No not a Vandy fan!........... But they could beat half of the Big 10 and maybe even the great JoPa team! No I my friend am a Georgia Bulldog! Red and Black all the way! And I did find something for Ya!

Football graduation rate (67 percent) was No. 1 among top 10 BCS teams
Dogs were standouts in the classroom, too
he latest NCAA graduation rate study shows that UGA’s football graduation rate of 67 percent was the highest among the top 10 teams in the final regular-season Bowl Championship Series (BCS) rankings.

In addition, Georgia’s four-year average football graduation rate of 62 percent ranks No. 1 in the SEC and No. 7 among the 56 schools participating in a bowl game this year, according to a study by the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport.



Among all 56 bowl teams, Georgia’s four-year average football graduation rate of 62 percent was surpassed only by Northwestern (83 percent), Boston College (79 percent), Virginia (76 percent), Tulsa (66 percent), Oregon (64 percent), and UCLA (63percent).

I guess the SEC only need 22 more % huh!

I think not only Mark Richt could shine his shoes. He might even be able to show him how to tie his tie!

[Lux]

No not a Vandy fan!........... But they could beat half of the Big 10 and maybe even the great JoPa team! No I my friend am a Georgia Bulldog! Red and Black all the way! And I did find something for Ya!

Football graduation rate (67 percent) was No. 1 among top 10 BCS teams
Dogs were standouts in the classroom, too
he latest NCAA graduation rate study shows that UGA’s football graduation rate of 67 percent was the highest among the top 10 teams in the final regular-season Bowl Championship Series (BCS) rankings.

In addition, Georgia’s four-year average football graduation rate of 62 percent ranks No. 1 in the SEC and No. 7 among the 56 schools participating in a bowl game this year, according to a study by the Institute for Diversity and Ethics in Sport.



Among all 56 bowl teams, Georgia’s four-year average football graduation rate of 62 percent was surpassed only by Northwestern (83 percent), Boston College (79 percent), Virginia (76 percent), Tulsa (66 percent), Oregon (64 percent), and UCLA (63percent).

I guess the SEC only need 22 more % huh!

I think not only Mark Richt could shine his shoes. He might even be able to show him how to tie his tie!

You have got to be kidding me! They will feed you guys down there anything to make you think you are an elite school when it comes to graduation rates.

Reshuffling the final regular-season USA TODAY football coaches' poll according to each school's football graduation rate:

1. Notre Dame (6) 96%
2. Clemson (23) 94%
3. Boston College (19) 89%
4. Texas Christian (14) 86%
5. Penn State (3) 84%
6. Florida (18) 80%
7. Texas Tech (15) 73%
8. Virginia Tech (12) 72%
9. Michigan (21) 68%
10. Miami, Fla. (9) 67%
Wisconsin (20) 67%
Division I-A average 65%
12. West Virginia (11) 64%
13. Oregon (5) 63%
UCLA (17) 63%
15. Auburn (7) 59%
16. Iowa (25) 58%
17. Southern California (1) 55%
18. Ohio State (4) 54%
19. Georgia Tech (24) 53%
20. Florida State (22) 52%
21. LSU (10) 51%
22. Louisville (16) 47%
23. Georgia (8) 45%
24. Texas (2) 40%
25. Alabama (13) 39%

USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2005-12-19-graduation-rate-chart.htm)


Please stop comparing conferences. I could care less about any Big Ten school. Penn State's program wasn't formed by the Big Ten - it was formed by Joe Pa himself.

Mark Richt has a lifetime to live before they can even mention him in the same county as Joe Pa.


:lmao:

[CaddieMan]

You have got to be kidding me! They will feed you guys down there anything to make you think you are an elite school when it comes to graduation rates.

Reshuffling the final regular-season USA TODAY football coaches' poll according to each school's football graduation rate:

1. Notre Dame (6) 96%
2. Clemson (23) 94%
3. Boston College (19) 89%
4. Texas Christian (14) 86%
5. Penn State (3) 84%
6. Florida (18) 80%
7. Texas Tech (15) 73%
8. Virginia Tech (12) 72%
9. Michigan (21) 68%
10. Miami, Fla. (9) 67%
Wisconsin (20) 67%
Division I-A average 65%
12. West Virginia (11) 64%
13. Oregon (5) 63%
UCLA (17) 63%
15. Auburn (7) 59%
16. Iowa (25) 58%
17. Southern California (1) 55%
18. Ohio State (4) 54%
19. Georgia Tech (24) 53%
20. Florida State (22) 52%
21. LSU (10) 51%
22. Louisville (16) 47%
23. Georgia (8) 45%
24. Texas (2) 40%
25. Alabama (13) 39%

USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2005-12-19-graduation-rate-chart.htm)


Please stop comparing conferences. I could care less about any Big Ten school. Penn State's program wasn't formed by the Big Ten - it was formed by Joe Pa himself.

Mark Richt has a lifetime to live before they can even mention him in the same county as Joe Pa.


:lmao:

Well, Well, according to your Info: ND whipped your butts on the field and in the class room!!!.....................are you now saying Charlie Weis is a much better coach than JoPa???;)

[enki]

Can't stop the Trojans, they just reload and reload. Horns only had Young, and occasionally Sweed. Mcoy sucks, North Texas?? They haven't proved nothing...why does Texas always start with these weak teams.....Go OSU, Cut those horns off, cut them, hook them and hang them on the wall.

OSU ROLLS through Texas...
Thanks for that Millertyme, I was starting to think I was the only BUCKEYE fan around. That ended up being a bowl like game and a little redemption from last years loss in the Horseshoe!!!

[Lux]

Well, Well, according to your Info: ND whipped your butts on the field and in the class room!!!.....................are you now saying Charlie Weis is a much better coach than JoPa???;)

I don't have problem losing to one of the most successful sports programs in history. What's Georgia's problem that they can't graduate half of the players that ND or PSU graduates?

It seems that you're still stinging from New Year's Day in 1983. I lost track of how many ranked teams Penn State beat that year to win the National Championship.


Amid the incessant woofs of human beings imitating bulldogs and the roars of proud Pennsylvanians who had painted their faces with blue lions' paws, the word most often heard throughout New Orleans all week long before Saturday's Sugar Bowl game was Walker, Walker, Walker. The thousands of Georgia fans took it as gospel that Herschel Walker, the Bulldogs' Heisman Trophy-winning junior tailback, was unstoppable, a man among boys -- and little else mattered. In the 35 games Walker had played for Georgia, the Bulldogs had won 33 and lost two, both of them a season ago, sandwiched between two undefeated campaigns -- the first culminating in a national championship with a win over Notre Dame in the '81 Sugar Bowl, the latest dawggone sure to wind up with another Sugar Bowl victory and another title.


Penn State had other ideas. When the Nittany Lions had won, 27-23, and the woofing had finally stopped, members of the Penn State band ringing the Lions' bus outside the Superdome chanted "Walker Lee! Walker Lee!" for their heroic defensive end, while the other Walker skulked off nearly unnoticed into the darkness, his pride and his right shoulder somewhat out of joint from the beating he had taken.


Inside the Dome during the preceding hours a great football game had been played, only the sixth postseason matchup of a No. 1 team (Georgia) and a No. 2 team (Penn State) since the Associated Press Poll began in 1936.


Earlier in the week in response to a remark by Ashley that Penn State was going to "make Herschel mighty sore," Walker had said, "Talk is cheap. If everyone got paid for talking we'd have a lot of rich people in the world." And then Herschel went right on talking.


"A lot of people look forward to tackling me," he said. "If I was a defensive player, I'd look forward to tackling myself. I can dish out more punishment than a defensive guy can dish out on me."


The record certainly substantiated Walker's claim, solidly enough to keep Coach Joe Paterno, in search of his first national championship in 17 years as head coach at Penn State, fretting and squirming right up until kickoff time, then restlessly pacing the sideline until the game was over. A friend invited into the Nittany Lions' locker room before the opening kickoff tried to ease Paterno's obvious tension by asking him what he thought Herschel might do on his first few carries. "Hey, are you kidding?" said Paterno. "If we knew that we wouldn't be sitting here fidgeting." As it turned out, Penn State knew exactly what Walker was going to do, and how to stop him. In the Sugar Bowl the Lions unfolded what they call the "Magic Defense" -- as in "now you see it, now you don't." Lineman and linebackers shifted into various configurations, sometimes showing an eight-man front, sometimes a five or a six. They switched from a nose to gap alignments, and at times as few as two defenders got down into a four-point stance, forcing the Georgia linemen to recalculate their timing and blocking angles while trying to remember their assignments and the count.


On Saturday, three prides of Lions hit the real Walker hard and hit him often. The first wave, led by Ashley and Greg Gattuso up front, stripped away Walker's blocking and tried to keep his movements lateral -- "east-west and not north-south" said Tackle Dave Opfar -- and made the initial hit whenever possible. Scott Radecic and the other punishing linebackers in the second wave tried to hold Walker up so that the third wave, led by Safety Mark Robinson, could complete the mission. Meanwhile, the Penn State defenders had to keep in mind that Georgia could go other ways if it had to -- "only as a last resort," Bulldog coach Vince Dooley admitted before the game -- to Fullback Chris McCarthy, of instance, or, if things got really tough, to the air via the arm of Quarterback John Lastinger. The result? Walker was held to 107 yards on 28 carries, his lowest one-game output since his freshman season, with the exception of this season's opening game against Clemson in which Walker, nursing a broken thumb, was used mainly as a decoy. Moreover, Walker's longest run against Penn State was only 12 yards. Except for the Clemson game, he had run at least once for 14 yards or more in every game of his career, going all the way back to his debut as an 18-year-old freshman. ...

CNN/SI - 1999 College Bowls - Sugar - SI Flashback: But How 'Bout Them Lions? - Wednesday December 29, 1999 02:03 PM (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/1999/bowls/sugar/news/1999/12/29/1983flashback/)http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/1999/bowls/sugar/news/1999/12/29/1983flashback/830110_sm.jpg


:wave:

[BBbucks]

I rushed over to join that Pick-em league thinking there would be a whole bunch of people in ti and I'm the only one in so far.....where is everybody?


Hunter- are you sure you signed up for the right league? We have 5 members right now and I didn't see your name on the list. :no:

Did you make your picks??

[PennStateMtnMan]

It is funny how everybody in the country knows Joe Paterno. I have no idea who Georgia's head coach is. In fact, I can't even name one player on their team. That should tell you something about Georgia.

[Lux]

Sure you know....







it's uh......











ummmmmmm....











ehhhhhh............









hmmmmmmmm.......











one of these guys!

Category:Georgia Bulldogs football coaches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Georgia_Bulldogs_football_coaches)


:lmao::lmao:

[CaddieMan]

It is funny how everybody in the country knows Joe Paterno. I have no idea who Georgia's head coach is. In fact, I can't even name one player on their team. That should tell you something about Georgia.

This says nothing about Georgia.............but it does enlighten us to the fact that one either you do not know crap about collage football or you don't get out very much!..........Take the antenna off of the roof..........they now have a thing..............called cable TV!!:lmao:

But seeing how uninformed you are I will help you.

2001
Penn State...... Georgia
W5 L6....... W8 L3
2002
Penn State........ Georgia
W9 L4......... W13 L1
2003
Penn State........ Georgia
W3 L9......... W11 L3
2004
Penn State......... Georgia
W4 L7.......... W10 L2
2005
Penn State......... Georgia
W11 L1 .......... W10 L3
2006
Penn State......... Georgia
W1 L1.......... W2 L0
Total
Penn State........ Georgia
W33 L28......... W54 L12

Now you know that Mark Richt has a much higher winning % than Jo Pa and in a much harder conference! Jo Pa was a great coach in his day! Mark Richt is a great coach TODAY! Now you know who Georgia's coach is. He is a coach that is 21 wins better than Jo Pa in the last five years!!:shhh:

[PennStateMtnMan]

When the Georgia coach proves something, then start talking him up. To even think you can compare him to JoePa, that is just idiotic.

[Lux]

This says nothing about Georgia.............but it does enlighten us to the fact that one either you do not know crap about collage football or you don't get out very much!..........Take the antenna off of the roof..........they now have a thing..............called cable TV!!:lmao:

But seeing how uninformed you are I will help you.

2001
Penn State...... Georgia
W5 L6....... W8 L3
2002
Penn State........ Georgia
W9 L4......... W13 L1
2003
Penn State........ Georgia
W3 L9......... W11 L3
2004
Penn State......... Georgia
W4 L7.......... W10 L2
2005
Penn State......... Georgia
W11 L1 .......... W10 L3
2006
Penn State......... Georgia
W1 L1.......... W2 L0
Total
Penn State........ Georgia
W33 L28......... W54 L12

Now you know that Mark Richt has a much higher winning % than Jo Pa and in a much harder conference! Jo Pa was a great coach in his day! Mark Richt is a great coach TODAY! Now you know who Georgia's coach is. He is a coach that is 21 wins better than Jo Pa in the last five years!!

You'll need to come back in say..... 35 years .... if you want to have a comparative conversation.

And in case you didn't know it, the SEC is not a TOUGH confernce. It is broken into TWO divisions which means you don't play the WHOLE conference all year. LSU isn't even on your schedule this year.

Georgia is currently scheduled to play THREE Top 25 teams:

3. Auburn
7. Florida
13. Tennessee

So does Penn State and these opponents are clearly BETTER!

1. Ohio State
2. Notre Dame (even went out of conference to find a TOP DAWG!)
11. Michigan

Question: What happened ot Auburn last year against one of the "lesser" BIG TEN schools?

Wisconsin Upsets Auburn in Capital One Bowl (http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010206aab.html)

:lmao:

Here's your BCS wrapup last year

A Pair of BCS Wins: The Big Ten produced a perfect 2-0 record in Bowl Championship Series (BCS) games for the third time in the system's eight years after Penn State knocked off Florida State in the Orange Bowl and Ohio State defeated Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl. The conference also boasted two BCS victories in 1999 (Wisconsin in Rose, Ohio State in Sugar) and 2000 (Wisconsin in Rose, Michigan in Sugar). The Big Ten is the only conference to rack up multiple BCS wins in three different years. The only other leagues to win two BCS games in a single season are the SEC (1999, 2002) and Pac-10 (2001).


:lmao:

Sell the SEC to somebody else!

[CaddieMan]

You'll need to come back in say..... 35 years .... if you want to have a comparative conversation.

And in case you didn't know it, the SEC is not a TOUGH confernce. It is broken into TWO divisions which means you don't play the WHOLE conference all year. LSU isn't even on your schedule this year.

Georgia is currently scheduled to play THREE Top 25 teams:

3. Auburn
7. Florida
13. Tennessee

So does Penn State and these opponents are clearly BETTER!

1. Ohio State
2. Notre Dame (even went out of conference to find a TOP DAWG!)
11. Michigan

Question: What happened ot Auburn last year against one of the "lesser" BIG TEN schools?

Wisconsin Upsets Auburn in Capital One Bowl (http://bigten.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/010206aab.html)

:lmao:

Here's your BCS wrapup last year

A Pair of BCS Wins: The Big Ten produced a perfect 2-0 record in Bowl Championship Series (BCS) games for the third time in the system's eight years after Penn State knocked off Florida State in the Orange Bowl and Ohio State defeated Notre Dame in the Fiesta Bowl. The conference also boasted two BCS victories in 1999 (Wisconsin in Rose, Ohio State in Sugar) and 2000 (Wisconsin in Rose, Michigan in Sugar). The Big Ten is the only conference to rack up multiple BCS wins in three different years. The only other leagues to win two BCS games in a single season are the SEC (1999, 2002) and Pac-10 (2001).


:lmao:

Sell the SEC to somebody else!

Get real My Man...........Lets see First you had to go out of conference to get a top 10 team ...............well because your conference only has ONE in the Top 10!!!!

USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm)

If you look there I Think the SEC has 4 in the top 10 and 6 in the top 25. Big 10...............well just 3 in the whole poll!!!

You talk about Auburn in bowls..........What about Georgia! (who has been to a bowl game every year under Richt) Lets see 3 out of five years they have played Big 10 schools 3-0 is his record. Beat Purdue not only once but twice and Wisconsin!

And to win the SEC you have to win the conference championship which means playing another top 10 team!!!!!!................Big ten better than the SEC.......I want some of what you been smoking:lmao:

[Lux]

Get real My Man...........Lets see First you had to go out of conference to get a top 10 team ...............well because your conference only has ONE in the Top 10!!!!

USATODAY.com (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm)

If you look there I Think the SEC has 4 in the top 10 and 6 in the top 25. Big 10...............well just 3 in the whole poll!!!:lmao:

LOL ---- 4 in the Top Ten because the SEC softens it's schedule.

Would love to play Georgia's weak sched ANYDAY!


You talk about Auburn in bowls..........What about Georgia! (who has been to a bowl game every year under Richt) Lets see 3 out of five years they have played Big 10 schools 3-0 is his record. Beat Purdue not only once but twice and Wisconsin!

And to win the SEC you have to win the conference championship which means playing another top 10 team!!!!!!................Big ten better than the SEC.......I want some of what you been smoking:lmao:

This is all I can say:
West Virginia
Nokia Sugar Bowl (HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE)
Atlanta, GEORGIA
Lost 38-35

Sorry but that is WEAK!

:lmao:

I don't smoke, but if I rooted for Georgia I would consider it. :drunk:

[hank123]

Goooooooooo Big Ten:happy64:

I just want to see Illinois and Northwestern get back in the mix:(

[CaddieMan]

LOL ---- 4 in the Top Ten because the SEC softens it's schedule.

Would love to play Georgia's weak sched ANYDAY!




This is all I can say:
West Virginia
Nokia Sugar Bowl (HOMEFIELD ADVANTAGE)
Atlanta, GEORGIA
Lost 38-35

Sorry but that is WEAK!

:lmao:

I don't smoke, but if I rooted for Georgia I would consider it. :drunk:



I don't even believe you are talking about soft schedules!!!!.........................Lets take a look at the big bruisers Penn State has coming up!.........Aha! look no farther than today......The big and mean 1AA Youngstown State who has already blasted Slippery Rock 52-21,and man handled Maine 34-14..........I guess this one will take all of JoPa's skill an cunning!..................Then mighty Northwestern a big 10 conference game!...........WHAT IS THIS! The mighty Northwestern has already fallen to Division 1AA New Hampshire!...........say it ain't so! Then Big Illinois..........WHAT?......Shutout by Rutgers......33-0!...........And to think some People really believe that the SEC is a tougher conference than the Big 10!.............But wait there is still a tough game ahead..........The Temple(hootie who) Owls!!!!............WHAT? they are win less?..............Lost to who............Buffalo 9-3 and did they show up for this one Louisville 62-0? Well I know the dreaded Owls will get a touchdown before they Play Penn State!!! Poor Penn State I just hope they can get a split out of these 4 games:crying:

TALK ABOUT WEAK!!!!!!!

[PennStateMtnMan]

Caddie,

Look who is number one in Bowl games in the NCAA!!!! Before you click on the link, I will let you know, it isn't Georgia. Wait, let me put it terms you might understand. It AIN'T Georgia.


Team Records - Best Winning Percentage (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/bowls/team_records_best_winpct.php)

[PennStateMtnMan]

Caddie,

That Western Kentucky game Georgia played, wow, what a major powerhouse. Atleast Youngstown State is ranked fourth in the country. By the way, this is the first time we had to dip into the Div 1AA ranks since the 70's. The only reason why we have to play these guys is Lousiana Tech had to decommit because of a schedule conflict since joining their new conference.

Georgia plays atleast one Division 1AA team a year. Lets not forget about that powerhouse of a team from Birmingham you guys play. I will laugh my butt off if Colorado beats you guys this year. That powerhouse Vanderbilt team just might clean Georgia's clock.

I looked at the all time records. Looking at PSU's overall record and Georgia's overall record, Georgia can't even carry PSU's jock strap. Georgia can beat up on these little Div 1AA teams to get more wins under their belt, PSU does it with Division 1A teams.

I was looking at the all time records against teams. Georgia has never ever ever beat Penn State.

In your defense, Penn State is the only Big Ten team that Georgia has played and never been able to beat.

Come back when Georgia actually grows a pair and plays real teams. :wave:

[CaddieMan]

Caddie,

Look who is number one in Bowl games in the NCAA!!!! Before you click on the link, I will let you know, it isn't Georgia. Wait, let me put it terms you might understand. It AIN'T Georgia.


Team Records - Best Winning Percentage (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/bowls/team_records_best_winpct.php)

Hey thanks for the link!!............. Look which Conference is ranked #1 ALL-Time Before you click on the Link. It AIN"T the Patsy Big 10!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Southeastern Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/conf_rankings.php)

[enki]

Glad to see Notre Dame get it handed to them, even if it was by Michigan,ugghhh!!!

Big Ten opener for the BUCKS this Sat against Penn State
should be good game at the 'shoe
GO BUCKS:happy64:

[PennStateMtnMan]

Hey thanks for the link!!............. Look which Conference is ranked #1 ALL-Time Before you click on the Link. It AIN"T the Patsy Big 10!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Southeastern Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/conf_rankings.php)

How many bowl games has PSU lost since joining the Big 10?

[Lux]

Hey thanks for the link!!............. Look which Conference is ranked #1 ALL-Time Before you click on the Link. It AIN"T the Patsy Big 10!

Southeastern Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/conf_rankings.php)


I love your selective research!

Lets look at what matters the most:

And the Big Ten has a winning record vs the SEC! :happy64:

Big Ten Conference vs Other Conferences (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/vs_conf.php)


And to go to your point about Paterno's record since 2000,
the SEC is actually ranked 5th in Div 1A conferences since 2000

Southeastern Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/conf_rankings.php)

while the Big Ten is ranked 4th

Big Ten Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/conf_rankings.php)

Your SEC isn't so might over the last 5 years baby.

If you say that the Big Ten is weak, then the SEC is WEAKER!

:lmao: :lmao:

[PennStateMtnMan]

I love your selective research!

Lets look at what matters the most:

And the Big Ten has a winning record vs the SEC! :happy64:

Big Ten Conference vs Other Conferences (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/vs_conf.php)


And to go to your point about Paterno's record since 2000,
the SEC is actually ranked 5th in Div 1A conferences since 2000

Southeastern Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/conf_rankings.php)

while the Big Ten is ranked 4th

Big Ten Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/conf_rankings.php)

Your SEC isn't so might over the last 5 years baby.

If you say that the Big Ten is weak, then the SEC is WEAKER!

:lmao: :lmao:

And the door closes on the Georgia fan. If he says anything else, that just means he is grasping at straws.

[CaddieMan]

And the door closes on the Georgia fan. If he says anything else, that just means he is grasping at straws.


First you guys want to debate the whole of Penn States years in football, then just the 35 years that Jo Pa has been coaching, Now it seams you guys want to switch to just five years! What is it going to be guys?.......... No matter because you are the people that are grasping at straws.

PennStateMtnMan you were so good as to provide the link where I posted that the SEC was the #1 ranked conference of all time.
Southeastern Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/conf_rankings.php)
And I think if you look the SEC has been ranked #1 4 different 10 year periods Big 10 only 1 from 1940-1949

Now that takes care of all of Penn States years in football! They were in a weaker confrence...........Fact

Now on to Jo Pa's tenure at Penn State: If you look at the above link in the years from 1970-1979 the SEC conference was ranked #2, from 1980-1989 #1, from 1990-1999 #2. Let's take a look at the Big 10 conference during the same time!!
Big Ten Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/conf_rankings.php)
Well lookie here! #4, #3, #4 respectively! Jo Pa has won the bulk of his games in a weaker confrence..........Fact


Now on to the last five years: The SEC is ranked #5 so far and The Big 10 is ranked their usual #4 I give you that. But let me point out that during these five years Georgia has won 21 more games! Let me wright that so you might can see it....21 Mark Richt record to date 55-12 Jo pa's record same time frame 34-28.........Fact

No you don't have to grasp for straws.........they are already there......you just have to look through them!!!;) :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[justin082005]

What are people trying to argue? Is the SEC the best this year? yes....and I am glad ND crushed UPS

[Lux]

First you guys want to debate the whole of Penn States years in football, then just the 35 years that Jo Pa has been coaching, Now it seams you guys want to switch to just five years! What is it going to be guys?.......... No matter because you are the people that are grasping at straws.

PennStateMtnMan you were so good as to provide the link where I posted that the SEC was the #1 ranked conference of all time.
Southeastern Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/conf_rankings.php)
And I think if you look the SEC has been ranked #1 4 different 10 year periods Big 10 only 1 from 1940-1949

Now that takes care of all of Penn States years in football! They were in a weaker confrence...........Fact

Now on to Jo Pa's tenure at Penn State: If you look at the above link in the years from 1970-1979 the SEC conference was ranked #2, from 1980-1989 #1, from 1990-1999 #2. Let's take a look at the Big 10 conference during the same time!!
Big Ten Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/conf_rankings.php)
Well lookie here! #4, #3, #4 respectively! Jo Pa has won the bulk of his games in a weaker confrence..........Fact


Now on to the last five years: The SEC is ranked #5 so far and The Big 10 is ranked their usual #4 I give you that. But let me point out that during these five years Georgia has won 21 more games! Let me wright that so you might can see it....21 Mark Richt record to date 55-12 Jo pa's record same time frame 34-28.........Fact

No you don't have to grasp for straws.........they are already there......you just have to look through them!!!

Poor research Caddie! Penn State had NOTHING to do with the BIG TEN before 1993, but that's pretty much on par with all your points. They all miss the mark like a Mark Richt pass.

I will give you Mark Richt 5 years, but like I said, he did it in a WEAKER CONFERENCE! :lmao: You are touting the SEC as the toughest when it fact, the Big Ten and 3 other conferences were BETTER throughout Mark's Tenure.

You're the one who came out with what was cleary the most envious comments I've ever seen made about Paterno. Even at age 79, he took a team that no one gave a chance to a nearly perfect 11-1 record, only falling short by ONE play to Michigan because the refs didn't know how to properly manage the clock.
Mark Richt inherited a football program. Joe Paterno created a football program and he's still on the top of his game. And you want to take away the credit? Now give the guy the respect he has EARNED, not inherited.

Let me know when they build a statue for him at Georgia (while living) and call him Mark Ri. :lmao:

Let me know when he earns the Sportman of the Year Award.

Better yet, let me know when he wins his first National Championship.

:wave:

[Lux]

What are people trying to argue? Is the SEC the best this year? yes....and I am glad ND crushed UPS

But Justin, Maryland is STILL 1-35 against Penn State.

Got that Justin? 1-35.

:wave:

[PennStateMtnMan]

But Justin, Maryland is STILL 1-35 against Penn State.

Got that Justin? 1-35.

:wave:


That is a good one. In Justin's defense, I have always like the Terps. They were our punching bag for many years and they took it with a smile on their faces.

[PennStateMtnMan]

First you guys want to debate the whole of Penn States years in football, then just the 35 years that Jo Pa has been coaching, Now it seams you guys want to switch to just five years! What is it going to be guys?.......... No matter because you are the people that are grasping at straws.

PennStateMtnMan you were so good as to provide the link where I posted that the SEC was the #1 ranked conference of all time.
Southeastern Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/sec/conf_rankings.php)
And I think if you look the SEC has been ranked #1 4 different 10 year periods Big 10 only 1 from 1940-1949

Now that takes care of all of Penn States years in football! They were in a weaker confrence...........Fact

Now on to Jo Pa's tenure at Penn State: If you look at the above link in the years from 1970-1979 the SEC conference was ranked #2, from 1980-1989 #1, from 1990-1999 #2. Let's take a look at the Big 10 conference during the same time!!
Big Ten Conference Rankings (http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/conf_rankings.php)
Well lookie here! #4, #3, #4 respectively! Jo Pa has won the bulk of his games in a weaker confrence..........Fact


Now on to the last five years: The SEC is ranked #5 so far and The Big 10 is ranked their usual #4 I give you that. But let me point out that during these five years Georgia has won 21 more games! Let me wright that so you might can see it....21 Mark Richt record to date 55-12 Jo pa's record same time frame 34-28.........Fact

No you don't have to grasp for straws.........they are already there......you just have to look through them!!!;) :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


Wow, you really are grasping at straws. Penn State has been playing football since the 1800's. We were an independent until 1993 and then we joined the Big 10(11). Joe Paterno has won the Coach of the Year award 3 times, which no other coach has done that. Not even Bear Bryant. Now, if you really want me to give you JoePa's accomplishments, you will be reading for a very long time. Trust me, I even get bored with reading them every year the media guide comes out. Even though I get bored reading all of his accomplishments, it doesn't change the fact that he is a phenominal man and coach.

You can try and slam the Penn State team, but you can not dig up anything to slam JoePa because he truly is a living legend. College football will sorely miss JoePa when he is gone. He has made an impact on the game and people will still be talking about him, Bobby Bowden, Alonzo Stagg and Bear Bryant after we all have passed on.

[CaddieMan]

I can only guess that you're a Vanderbilt fan! :lmao:

Gotta start somewhere. ;)

Hate on Joe Pa all you want. <yawn>

There isn't a coach in the SEC that can shine his shoes, even at 79. :shhh:
What Paterno hopes to be remembered for is graduating 84 percent of his players. That's 20 percent higher than the national average for all four-year college students. He does it with mandatory study halls and a zero-tolerance approach.

'Joe Pa's' Impact Goes Beyond Football, Legendary Penn State Coach Downplays His Achievements On The Field - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/13/eveningnews/main2007058.shtml)
I bet the cumulative grad rates in the SEC don't add up to 84 percent. Well atleast if you exclude Vandy!

I am now!!...................Maybe Jo pa is a better coach?...........Can you believe that SportsLux!.....Georgia losing to Vandy.....good God!!!...........Well it is now official I am on the RV bandwagon 1.57 to one OCT 25................If Vandy can beat Georgia........ANY THING CAN HAPPEN!!!!:lmao:

[Lux]

I am now!!...................Maybe Jo pa is a better coach?...........Can you believe that SportsLux!.....Georgia losing to Vandy.....good God!!!...........Well it is now official I am on the RV bandwagon 1.57 to one OCT 25................If Vandy can beat Georgia........ANY THING CAN HAPPEN!!!!:lmao:

Sorry to hear. I know those kinds of losses are painful.

I guess anything can happen......I'll go for $3.00!!!

[CramptonMotorsports]

title game for the next 2 years

USC vs. OSU

some tough ones with Cal, Oregon, and Notre Dame coming up, but I'm stickin with it.

[PennStateMtnMan]

To bad for USC. They were definately exposed yesterday.

[wherbie]

Michigan wolverines will kick ohio's arse.....GO BLUE

[Dinar Brutus]

Here we go again.. GO BUCKS.....

[PennStateMtnMan]

I can not believe Michigan doesn't get to play OSU in the championship game. The BCS is a joke. If Florida was better than Michigan, then they should have been ranked ahead of them 3 weeks ago. Michigan got shafted. The Big Ten is the toughest conference in the country and they showed it this year.

[PennStateMtnMan]

Here we go again.. GO BUCKS.....

Kick Florida's ears in BUCKS!!!!!!!! Show them what real football is all about.

[CaddieMan]

I can not believe Michigan doesn't get to play OSU in the championship game. The BCS is a joke. If Florida was better than Michigan, then they should have been ranked ahead of them 3 weeks ago. Michigan got shafted. The Big Ten is the toughest conference in the country and they showed it this year.

Well for once we will find out ....Arkansas vs Wisconsin.....Penn State vs Tennessee.....Ohio State vs Florida....SEC vs Big Ten got to love it. And by the way Michigan had their chance and blew it. Got beat! And USC will beat Michigan. The toughest conference I am happy to say will not be decided by me and you but by the team's on the field! Talk to you again on Jan 8th! The SEC rules you will find that out through out the Bowl season!:wave: ;)

[WebGuy75903]

Okay, so I'm a buckeye fan, through and through... Can't live in Buckeye Country, and not be one (unless you don't like football at all, or you got dropped on your head when you little, or something - And yes, that was a little funny - I know plenty of misdirected individuals here in Ohio that seem to LOVE Michigan - Such anomolies are to be expected, I guess). So, with that said, I have to admit that Lloyd Carr made a statement that really made a lot of sense to me: Had USC Not Lost, the Polls would not have switched around No's 3 and 4 (of which, at that time, Michigan was ahead of Florida). So if that's the case, then how come once USC lost, Michigan was no longer the next best team?

So I have mixed feelings about the title game. I'd like to see the bucks give a rightful stomping to Florida, but it still doesn't seem fair that Michigan did not get the invite. In all truthfulness, yeah, the Buckeye's beat Michigan, but by a field goal... A very narrow margin of victory there. So Michigan clearly gave us a run for our money. But at this point, the damage is done. Ohio State vs. Florida - Jan. 8th.

I wish the Michigan team/fans the best of luck against USC (that's who they're playing, correct? I thought that's what I read). And I'm hoping that if nothing else, Ohio State obliterates Florida, to show those who voted for Florida in the Title Game that they voted WRONG. Naturally, as a Buckeye Fan, I hope OSU wins simply to win that National Title game, but that aside, the BCS system is flawed, and needs to be shown that.

My prediction? Yeah, right - I ain't gonna predict nothin' - Anything can happen. However, my hopes? Florida looks like a High School team when they (or rather, IF they) show up on January 8th.

[Collegeinvester1000]

I for one am glad Michigan is NOT in the national champ. game.
What would have happened if they got in and WON.
It would be ridiculous. Ohio state and Michigan would have to play yet a third game for it to make sense (but of course they wouldn’t).

Plus, the SEC is by far the toughest conference to play in period.
(that’s not to say Ohio state is not extremely good) but seriously...........who does OSU play besides MI that is good?

I'd like to see USC, MI, and Ohio State in the SEC for a few seasons to really give them a test.

Also I'm tired of all the people moving here from up north and cheering for their teams in "my" sports bars!

Can't beleive I'm gonna say this but GO GATORS.

[usakidd]

WE ARE...
PENN STATE!!!

Big 10's Top 10 Players


#1

Paul Posluszny, LB
Sr., Penn State

As a junior he went from relative unknown to Bednarik Award winner
as the nation's top defensive player.
"Poz" compiled 116 tackles, including 11 for loss.



http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.cfb.big10/images/Posluszny2.jpg

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.cfb.big10/content.10.html
(http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0608/gallery.cfb.big10/content.10.html)
:happy64:



You know, if General Patton were still alive today, and he would take a look at the man that Paul Posluszny has become, he would be a shoe-in to become the next General Patton, so-to-speak, should Paul decide to make the military his career. JMO

[PennStateMtnMan]

You know, if General Patton were still alive today, and he would take a look at the man that Paul Posluszny has become, he would be a shoe-in to become the next General Patton, so-to-speak, should Paul decide to make the military his career. JMO

Paul has contemplated going into the Navy. He has mentioned this many times.

[PennStateMtnMan]

Well for once we will find out ....Arkansas vs Wisconsin.....Penn State vs Tennessee.....Ohio State vs Florida....SEC vs Big Ten got to love it. And by the way Michigan had their chance and blew it. Got beat! And USC will beat Michigan. The toughest conference I am happy to say will not be decided by me and you but by the team's on the field! Talk to you again on Jan 8th! The SEC rules you will find that out through out the Bowl season!:wave: ;)


Arkansas is pretty even with Wisconsin in the rankings. So is OSU and UF. I don't know much about Arkansas, but I do believe OSU is going to clean UF's clock.

Tennessee is ranked 17th in the BCS. Penn State is not ranked. If PSU beats Tennessee, that will BIG. If the Big Ten wins all the games against the SEC, then I hope you will acknowledge the SEC is way over hyped.

I do hope LSU kicks the crap out of Notre Dame. I bet half of Notre Dame's fans can't name an assistant coach on that team, nor could they name a reciever. Notre Dame always attracts the jock riders that don't know squat about college football. When I hear somebody in this area say they are a Notre Dame fan, I ask them who the coordinators are or the recievers, then I get easier from that since Charlie and Quinn has been in the news so much. If they can't name Charlie as the HC or Quinn as the QB, then I know they are idiots.

[Lux]

JoePa does it AGAIN! - even old AND hurt, he's better than the rest of them.

:lmao: :lmao:

Penn St. (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/ppb/) 20, (17) Tennessee (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/ttd/) 10
Box Score (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/boxscore?gid=200701010034)
By FRED GOODALL, AP Sports Writer
January 1, 2007

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Joe Paterno insisted all along that he needed his players and assistant coaches more than they needed him in the Outback Bowl.

Maybe the longtime Penn State coach was right.

With Paterno watching from the press box while recovering from a broken leg, Tony Hunt ran for 158 yards and Tony Davis returned a fumble 88 yards for a touchdown Monday, leading the Nittany Lions to a 20-10 victory over No. 17 Tennessee.

Penn State (9-4) forced three turnovers in holding Tennessee (9-4) to a season-low point total, and the Nittany Lions improved to 16-6 in New Year's Day bowls under their 80-year-old coach.

"You play against Joe Paterno's football teams, they're going to be tough, they're going to disciplined, they're going to be able to run the football," said Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer, who also lost to Penn State in the 1994 Florida Citrus Bowl.

"I knew that, having been there before. I learned some great lessons from him the last time. If we take care of the football better, at least it's a more interesting game there at the end."

(6) Wisconsin (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/wwo/) 17, (12) Arkansas (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/aan/) 14
Box Score (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/boxscore?gid=200701010036)
By NOAH TRISTER, AP Sports Writer
January 1, 2007

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- Arkansas' Darren McFadden broke free on his first carry and raced into the Wisconsin secondary. But defensive back Jack Ikegwuonu did what few players have -- he ran down McFadden at the 9-yard line.

That summed up the Capital One Bowl for sixth-ranked Wisconsin. With its running game stifled and its quarterback under constant pressure, the Badgers did just enough to hold off No. 12 Arkansas 17-14 Monday.

[PennStateMtnMan]

Well for once we will find out ....Arkansas vs Wisconsin.....Penn State vs Tennessee.....Ohio State vs Florida....SEC vs Big Ten got to love it. And by the way Michigan had their chance and blew it. Got beat! And USC will beat Michigan. The toughest conference I am happy to say will not be decided by me and you but by the team's on the field! Talk to you again on Jan 8th! The SEC rules you will find that out through out the Bowl season!:wave: ;)


Oh CaddieMan......Where are you???? Your beloved SEC lost two games today against that fat, slow, dumb Big Ten. Time for you to eat a little roadkill and admit I was right, the SEC is way over rated. The Big Ten is better than the SEC and only one more game to go and the Big Ten SWEEPS the SEC.

Tennessee lost to an unranked PSU team.

[Anaconda_Dinar_Sheik]

JoePa does it AGAIN! - even old AND hurt, he's better than the rest of them.

:lmao: :lmao:

Penn St. (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/ppb/) 20, (17) Tennessee (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/ttd/) 10
Box Score (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/boxscore?gid=200701010034)
By FRED GOODALL, AP Sports Writer
January 1, 2007

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) -- Joe Paterno insisted all along that he needed his players and assistant coaches more than they needed him in the Outback Bowl.

Maybe the longtime Penn State coach was right.

With Paterno watching from the press box while recovering from a broken leg, Tony Hunt ran for 158 yards and Tony Davis returned a fumble 88 yards for a touchdown Monday, leading the Nittany Lions to a 20-10 victory over No. 17 Tennessee.

Penn State (9-4) forced three turnovers in holding Tennessee (9-4) to a season-low point total, and the Nittany Lions improved to 16-6 in New Year's Day bowls under their 80-year-old coach.

"You play against Joe Paterno's football teams, they're going to be tough, they're going to disciplined, they're going to be able to run the football," said Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer, who also lost to Penn State in the 1994 Florida Citrus Bowl.

"I knew that, having been there before. I learned some great lessons from him the last time. If we take care of the football better, at least it's a more interesting game there at the end."

(6) Wisconsin (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/wwo/) 17, (12) Arkansas (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/teams/aan/) 14
Box Score (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/boxscore?gid=200701010036)
By NOAH TRISTER, AP Sports Writer
January 1, 2007

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) -- Arkansas' Darren McFadden broke free on his first carry and raced into the Wisconsin secondary. But defensive back Jack Ikegwuonu did what few players have -- he ran down McFadden at the 9-yard line.

That summed up the Capital One Bowl for sixth-ranked Wisconsin. With its running game stifled and its quarterback under constant pressure, the Badgers did just enough to hold off No. 12 Arkansas 17-14 Monday.



I saw Joe Pa had a record for appearances in bowl games..........

[CaddieMan]

Oh CaddieMan......Where are you???? Your beloved SEC lost two games today against that fat, slow, dumb Big Ten. Time for you to eat a little roadkill and admit I was right, the SEC is way over rated. The Big Ten is better than the SEC and only one more game to go and the Big Ten SWEEPS the SEC.

Tennessee lost to an unranked PSU team.

Bowl games so far SEC 4-3............ Big Ten 2-4 And by the way I am Right Here! Yes the two games that the big 10 won were against the SEC. Congrats! My whole argument is that from top to bottom the SEC is a much harder conference. The bowl season is proving my point! And when Florida whips Ohio States back side all will know. Let me remind you SEC.. 4-3.......Big 10.. 2-4 By the way great game Michigan!:lmao:

[Lux]

Bowl games so far SEC 4-3............ Big Ten 2-4 And by the way I am Right Here! Yes the two games that the big 10 won were against the SEC. Congrats! My whole argument is that from top to bottom the SEC is a much harder conference. The bowl season is proving my point! And when Florida whips Ohio States back side all will know. Let me remind you SEC.. 4-3.......Big 10.. 2-4 By the way great game Michigan!

Talk about low hanging fruit! I'll bake a few pies with your comments.

If the Big Ten lost the other 4 games it played, it makes the two wins over the SEC look that much worse!

It says that the SEC can beat any other conference except the Big Ten

or

that the Big Ten can't beat anybody except the SEC

or BOTH!

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

The SEC couldn't beat a one-legged JoePa! :drunk:

Real tough conference.

Listen to Tony Hunt's (31 carries for 158 yards) interview and he'll tell you what he thinks about 17th ranked Tennessaw.

"We heard all the talk this week about the SEC, but we knew personally they weren't as tough as us"

ESPN.com - NCF - Recap (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=270010213&confId=null)

[PennStateMtnMan]

Talk about low hanging fruit! I'll bake a few pies with your comments.

If the Big Ten lost the other 4 games it played, it makes the two wins over the SEC look that much worse!

It says that the SEC can beat any other conference except the Big Ten

or

that the Big Ten can't beat anybody except the SEC

or BOTH!

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

The SEC couldn't beat a one-legged JoePa! :drunk:

Real tough conference.

Listen to Tony Hunt's (31 carries for 158 yards) interview and he'll tell you what he thinks about 17th ranked Tennessaw.

"We heard all the talk this week about the SEC, but we knew personally they weren't as tough as us"

ESPN.com - NCF - Recap (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=270010213&confId=null)


Hey Sport, Tennessee's fan forum is in meltdown. Especially after Tony Hunt's comments. I loved it when Tony said "They didn't seem to want to tackle me, even when we were running the same play over and over."

I agree, the SEC can't beat the Big Ten. Other than the Memissedagain game against USC, all the games could have gone either way. But the unranked Nittany Lions took an SEC team to the woodshed. Tony Davis, Tony Hunt and others showed the nation some Big Ten speed.

I never saw any SEC speed in the game. What is this SEC speed crap? Penn State, Wisconsin and soon OSU will expose this so called SEC speed. It is about time the SEC realizes they are overhyped.

[CaddieMan]

A little update for everyone SEC.. 5-3........Big 10.... 2-4 LSU spanked ND's back side.

[deerslayer69]

A little update for everyone SEC.. 5-3........Big 10.... 2-4 LSU spanked ND's back side.
GEAUX TIGERS !!! :happy64:

[Lux]

Let me fix your post Caddie

SEC.. 5-3.......0-2 vs Big 10

Big 10..2-4.....2-0 vs SEC


:lmao:
:lmao:
:lmao:
:lmao:

[PennStateMtnMan]

Let me fix your post Caddie

SEC.. 5-3.......0-2 vs Big 10

Big 10..2-4.....2-0 vs SEC


:lmao:
:lmao:
:lmao:
:lmao:

The elite SEC just can't beat the Big 10 teams. The other conferences can barely beat the so-so Big 10 teams. The only team I am disappointed in is Michigan. I don't think the team ever showed up or Michigan referee's never showed up.

[CaddieMan]

The elite SEC just can't beat the Big 10 teams. The other conferences can barely beat the so-so Big 10 teams. The only team I am disappointed in is Michigan. I don't think the team ever showed up or Michigan referee's never showed up.

More like barely beat the SEC. Penn State 20 Tenn 10 not a very big considering that Tenn was driving and fumbled at Penn States 10 yard line and they picked it up and ran it 90 yards for a defensive TD. A 14 point swing right there. And then Wisconsin 17 Arkansas 14 damn close or just barley depending on the way you look at it.

And by the way besides Michigan utter failure ,and proving they had no business playing Ohio State again, you left out lovely Purdue and Maryland you call this BARELY!

Purdue Boilermakers at Maryland Terrapins
1st 2nd 3rd 4th
PUR (8-6) 0 7 0 0 7 FINAL
MD (9-4) 7 14 3 0 24
December 29, 2006 - Florida Citrus Bowl

24
Preview Recap Play-By-Play Drive Chart Box Score

Scoring Summary
FIRST QUARTER PU MARY
TD 4:33 JOEY HAYNOS 4 YD PASS FROM SAM HOLLENBACH (DAN ENNIS KICK)
Drive info: 8 plays, 76 yards. 0 7
SECOND QUARTER PU MARY
TD 13:33 CORY JACKSON 1 YD RUN (DAN ENNIS KICK)
Drive info: 10 plays, 60 yards. 0 14
TD 2:05 DARRIUS HEYWARD-BEY 46 YD PASS FROM SAM HOLLENBACH (DAN ENNIS KICK)
Drive info: 5 plays, 75 yards. 0 21
TD 0:30 GREG ORTON 12 YD PASS FROM CURTIS PAINTER (CHRIS SUMMERS KICK)
Drive info: 7 plays, 71 yards. 7 21
THIRD QUARTER PU MARY
FG 6:44 DAN ENNIS 22 YD FG
Drive info: 9 plays, 50 yards. 7 24
Team Stat Comparison

1st Downs 12 20
3rd down efficiency 6-13 9-17
4th down efficiency 0-0 1-1
Total Yards 285 429 Passing 264 223
Comp-Att 23-36 15-24
Yards per pass 7.3 9.3
Rushing 21 206
Rushing Attempts 13 50
Yards per rush 1.6 4.1
Penalties 4-33 5-31
Turnovers 2 0
Fumbles lost 1 0
Interceptions thrown 1 0
Possession 20:12 39:48

Wow! 429 total yards to 285. 24 points to7.
Big 10 won their measly two games by a combined total of 13. The two loses of Michigan and Purdue alone were 31 points! All three Sec loses combined total a mere 16 points. Your barely and my barely are two different things.

[Lux]

Caddie,

I'll give you one thing, you show up. I respect that and I'm glad we can all have good humored fun.

Now let's get it clear. Our whole conversation began with you dissing Joe Pa.

Joe Pa not only beat a "higher ranked" SEC team, he did it from the sky box.

Isn't that kinda like beating you with one hand tied behind my back. :p

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/components/photos/070101/070101_paterno_hmed_3p.rp350x350.jpg

Looks like they're all excited watching all that SEC speed! :lmao:



All the marbles are riding on Monday night.

Never been a bigger BUCKEYE fan in my life!

:wave:

[PennStateMtnMan]

Caddie,

An unranked PSU team spanked a ranked SEC team. If you want to look at point swings, how about PSU missing 3 field goals. How about PSU kicking a field goal when they were on the half yard line. PSU moved the ball at will against a ranked SEC team. Nobody was impressed with the SEC and with the so-called SEC speed. PSU showed they were faster, stronger, and a better overall football team than that ranked SEC team.

It was PSU's defense that caused those turnovers. Tennessee didn't break the huddle with a plan on coughing up the ball. Granted, UT went up against one of the best defenses in college football and scored 10 points and they should be applauded.

Thank you Caddie for the fun we had the last few weeks/months. You have been a good sport about it all. Come Monday night, the Big 10 will be 3-0 against the SEC. Does the SEC stand for "Slower Exposed Conference"?

[usajmg93f]

Ask Notre Dame about the speed....

[CaddieMan]

Caddie,

An unranked PSU team spanked a ranked SEC team. If you want to look at point swings, how about PSU missing 3 field goals. How about PSU kicking a field goal when they were on the half yard line. PSU moved the ball at will against a ranked SEC team. Nobody was impressed with the SEC and with the so-called SEC speed. PSU showed they were faster, stronger, and a better overall football team than that ranked SEC team.

It was PSU's defense that caused those turnovers. Tennessee didn't break the huddle with a plan on coughing up the ball. Granted, UT went up against one of the best defenses in college football and scored 10 points and they should be applauded.

Thank you Caddie for the fun we had the last few weeks/months. You have been a good sport about it all. Come Monday night, the Big 10 will be 3-0 against the SEC. Does the SEC stand for "Slower Exposed Conference"?



It is quite obvious that you saw the game through your prescription rose colored Penn State glasses. If you say that was a spanking..................what about Michigan and Purdue? What would you call that then? Your conference is 2.......and............4 I will venture to say if Penn State was in the SEC they would have at least 4 losses a year......every year!:eek:

[PennStateMtnMan]

It is quite obvious that you saw the game through your prescription rose colored Penn State glasses. If you say that was a spanking..................what about Michigan and Purdue? What would you call that then? Your conference is 2.......and............4 I will venture to say if Penn State was in the SEC they would have at least 4 losses a year......every year!:eek:


My glasses are blue colored thank you. We are 2-0 against your beloved SEC. We are not talking, nor have we been talking about the other schools. we have been talking about the on field match up between the slow and exposed SEC and the much faster, stronger Big 10.

[Lux]

I will venture to say if Penn State was in the SEC they would have at least 4 losses a year......every year!

But they wouldn't have a hard time against the SEC teams ranked higher than them!

:lmao:
:lmao:
:lmao:

http://www.gopsusports.com/images/Football/Hunt_OutbackBowl_400.jpg

[PennStateMtnMan]

Ok, Boise State should be National Champs.

[Lux]

Ok, Boise State should be National Champs.

That's what I'm sayin'!



http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/deupnu14001020625.h2.jpg


;)

Love ya Caddie!





2-1 :(

[Michwlv]

That's what I'm sayin'!



http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/ap/deupnu14001020625.h2.jpg


;)

Love ya Caddie!





2-1 :(


Hate to say it but based on OSU and Michigans last two games...I'd say Boise would have a shot!:crying:

[usajmg93f]

Ask THE OSU BUCKEYES about the SEC Speed!!! Huh Caddie Man??

[Lux]

Ask THE OSU BUCKEYES about the SEC Speed!!! Huh Caddie Man??

Hey, you're "Busting Your Butt, to save mine"

So I have to hand it to ya.
:wave:




OK - CaddieMan too. :p



But ya still can't beat JoePa! :drunk:

[Fly2PO]

SEC RULES

HOW BOUT DEM GATORS

:happy64: :happy64: :happy64: :happy64:

[Fly2PO]

OH I'M SORRY WHO JUST BEAT OSU



THA GATOR'S

GOTTA LOVE THA SEC:lmao: :happy64: :wave:

[Fly2PO]

41-14

now That's
a Done Deal

go Dinar's
go Gator's

[CaddieMan]

Holy $#&%!



SEC 6-3



BIG 10 2-5


Nothing more to say except.......



:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[Lux]

Sorry Caddie

We had to edit!


:lmao: :lmao:
:lmao: :lmao:

[CaddieMan]

Sorry Caddie

We had to edit!


:lmao: :lmao:
:lmao: :lmao:

Even works better for me sportslux!!!!!!.....Hey but Penn State won!

[Fly2PO]

UH!!!!!!!!!

Kinda thought he had it RIIGHT The first time......:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[Lux]

Even works better for me sportslux!!!!!!.....Hey but Penn State won!


We had to edit for TRUE EMOTION

[SystemAdmin]

Please note that we will allow CaddieMan
to kick Sportsputz and PennStateMountainMama
in the groin several times and break one rule in the process.












But JoePa did win and that's all that matters ;) .

[ridinshotgun]

Florida did the pounding.
Boise did the pounding.
Can't beat college ball.
Way to go Florida!!!!!!!
rs

[PennStateMtnMan]

Please note that we will allow CaddieMan
to kick Sportsputz and PennStateMountainMama
in the groin several times and break one rule in the process.












But JoePa did win and that's all that matters ;) .


I need some titanium in my shorts.

[ridinshotgun]

Florida did the pounding.
Boise did the pounding.
Can't beat college ball.
Way to go Florida!!!!!!!
rs


What?? No response from the from the Big 10?

Boise State is a no name school that showed you guys east of the rockies that football exists beyong the big 10 or the SEC.

I guess there bowl games just got you guys swallowing hard.
And I'm a grinnin.:)
rs

[Michwlv]

What?? No response from the from the Big 10?

Boise State is a no name school that showed you guys east of the rockies that football exists beyong the big 10 or the SEC.

I guess there bowl games just got you guys swallowing hard.
And I'm a grinnin.:)
rs

In all honesty I know that no one in their right mind thinks that Boise State would have won against OSU, Michigan, Florida, USC, LSU, or ND.

They played a very poor Oklahoma team and were fortunate in the last couple of plays.

As for the Big Ten. It was a poor showing by both Ohio State and Michigan. However, I should point out that Wisconsin and PSU did win against the SEC, so its not like the SEC swept the Big 10, the record I believe was 2-1 Big Ten over the SEC.

When you talk about the Big Ten and its bowl record, again I agree, it was poor this year. However, you also must remember that all the Big Ten teams had to play "up" one level, since the Big Ten had two BCS teams.

Iowa for instance was the Big Ten #5 vs Texas who was the Big Twelve #2.

Michigan was the Big Ten #2 playing the USC Pac-10 #1, in what amounted to home game for USC.

Purdue was a team that squeaked into a bowl (barely) and they didn't play OSU or Michigan...so IMHO Purdue isn't even a bowl team...they just had a favorable schedule.

I'm not making excuse, the 'little ten' played poorly. Just pointing out that there are reasons.

[PennStateMtnMan]

Excellent post Mich!!!!!

I have one thing to say.....

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[CaddieMan]

In all honesty I know that no one in their right mind thinks that Boise State would have won against OSU, Michigan, Florida, USC, LSU, or ND.

They played a very poor Oklahoma team and were fortunate in the last couple of plays.

As for the Big Ten. It was a poor showing by both Ohio State and Michigan. However, I should point out that Wisconsin and PSU did win against the SEC, so its not like the SEC swept the Big 10, the record I believe was 2-1 Big Ten over the SEC.

When you talk about the Big Ten and its bowl record, again I agree, it was poor this year. However, you also must remember that all the Big Ten teams had to play "up" one level, since the Big Ten had two BCS teams.
Iowa for instance was the Big Ten #5 vs Texas who was the Big Twelve #2.

Michigan was the Big Ten #2 playing the USC Pac-10 #1, in what amounted to home game for USC.

Purdue was a team that squeaked into a bowl (barely) and they didn't play OSU or Michigan...so IMHO Purdue isn't even a bowl team...they just had a favorable schedule.

I'm not making excuse, the 'little ten' played poorly. Just pointing out that there are reasons.

AHHHHH!!!!!!!............ so did the SEC! The SEC was the underdog in all games except for 2. Still a record of 6-3:eek: .........NEXT!;)

[PennStateMtnMan]

AHHHHH!!!!!!!............ so did the SEC! The SEC was the underdog in all games except for 2. Still a record of 6-3:eek: .........NEXT!;)


And those two games where they were not the underdog, they lost to the inferior Big 10.

[ridinshotgun]

Here's a typical comment from the east slope:


In all honesty I know that no one in their right mind thinks that Boise State would have won against OSU, Michigan, Florida, USC, LSU, or ND.

They played a very poor Oklahoma team and were fortunate in the last couple of plays.

It's always a "poor team" that played when they lose. When an underdog comes into the big 10 OR SEC territitory and plays thier hearts out with coaching that stuns (webster: to daze or render senseless) the opponent we can always rationalize that it was a "poor Oklahoma team". the fact is they played thier hearts out and they where spent by the end of the game. the looks on thier faces as they competed indicated that they gave it all they had. And had they won by 7 points everybody would have said well "no one in thier right mind thinks (thought) that Boise State would have won against OSU". Somehow it's just impossible for the east slope teams to give credit to any football success from us westerners.

And "fortunate in the last couple of plays"? What do you call getting 3 trys at a 2 point convertion. Especially when on they second try Oklahoma was penalized. So the ref's back them up 5 yards and say try again. I thought a 2 point conversion was a one try shot.

No, we just saw the best team win. The WAC and Boise State can claim a justifiable victory.

As for the Big Ten. It was a poor showing by both Ohio State and Michigan. However, I should point out that Wisconsin and PSU did win against the SEC, so its not like the SEC swept the Big 10, the record I believe was 2-1 Big Ten over the SEC.

When you talk about the Big Ten and its bowl record, again I agree, it was poor this year. However, you also must remember that all the Big Ten teams had to play "up" one level, since the Big Ten had two BCS teams.

Iowa for instance was the Big Ten #5 vs Texas who was the Big Twelve #2.

Michigan was the Big Ten #2 playing the USC Pac-10 #1, in what amounted to home game for USC.

Purdue was a team that squeaked into a bowl (barely) and they didn't play OSU or Michigan...so IMHO Purdue isn't even a bowl team...they just had a favorable schedule.

I'm not making excuse, the 'little ten' played poorly. Just pointing out that there are reasons.

Here we go again, all about the "poor showing". I'm an Ohio State fan. My father was coached under the Great Woody Hayes. Ohio State played exceptionally.

They just could not beat a coach trained by Ohio State and refined in the WAC. You guys stole him away from Utah where he was able to really make a name for himself. Not too many Ute's were happy about his move to Florida. But that was the best move for Urbun Myer.

Since its always about the big ten and the SEC, to rise to his true potential, he had to move from the WAC to the east slope. You guys got him. And we will find another to train.

But, WHEN HE WINS, ..........against the Number ONE team,..... We've got to support our guy. Way to go Florida!!! You beat.....a "poor showing".

Maybe someday the west slope and the WAC will truely rise to the top.
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[justin082005]

I just am happy to be a fan of "the worst 8 win team, possibly ever" who ended up 9-4!!

I will take it

[CaddieMan]

Just had to check again. SEC IS STILL NATIONAL CHAMPS! You guys have a whole year of this from me!!:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[Lux]

Just had to check again. SEC IS STILL NATIONAL CHAMPS! You guys have a whole year of this from me!!


And Joe Pa is still the greatest college football coach (past, present and future), which started this whole discussion!!!!!:lmao: :lmao:

You've got a LIFETIME to deal with me Caddie. :lmao: :lmao:

Can't wait for the IIF Barbeque! We're still having one aren't we????


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