Bio Diesel !!!

[BRYAN]

Wish me luck I'm going to pitch a 2.5 million dollar proposal next week for a bio-diesel production plant here in PA.

There are 4 dealers / producers in PA. I want to be # 5 ;)

Has anyone heard of this product and tell me what you think of it and if you ever used it ?? .

GW said it was in his energy package when he spoke today !!!

I'm always on the move ..... :huge:

[bottlebush]

Wish me luck I'm going to pitch a 2.5 million dollar proposal next week for a bio-diesel production plant here in PA.

There are 4 dealers / producers in PA. I want to be # 5 ;)

Has anyone heard of this product and tell me what you think of it and if you ever used it ?? .

GW said it was in his energy package when he spoke today !!!

I'm always on the move ..... :huge:
Go for it man. Best of >>LUCK<<<<
:happy64: :happy64:
yes,. I did read something on the Bio-Deisel subject

[RET]

I'll be thinking about you, Bryan. Best of luck. Let us know how it goes!!!

[BRYAN]

Thanks for the support .. :wave:
I really believe it will go thru from the signals I have been recieving ..
That's why I'm traveling In person to speak to the Main Money Man !
If I sell him I"m in !!! :huge:
To say I'm not uptight I would be lying ..
I can't sleep now and my elbows don't move as freely as they used too.....
For good Information on Biodeisel
www.biodeisel.org has a lot of information to start with . :huge:

[bottlebush]

:happy64:
Your gonna be great
I know that for sure.
Whoops==I'm leakin inside information
:shhh:

[RET]

Bryan, check your pm. :)

[Jerry]

This dont run on Bio - Diesel...

[BRYAN]

THAT RIGHT ... But there is a 4 sec dragster that does run on it ..

It will run in any turbo diesel car ....
Besides gas cars will be around too ..

That's the Lotus Elesie ??
cost about 42k??

[Jerry]

Very good Bry! Yeah got one on order I expect it to arrive in New Port Beach (back home) in Cali June 05. Nightfall blue. I perfer longevity as opposed to the quick rush. Besides just ask any woman... its all about endurance. :drunk:

[BRYAN]

EASY OF HANDLING AND REPAIR COST ARE ALSO A FACTOR ..
That is definatly a babe magnet ...

Fast and resonable priced .. not too many of them here in the Us... but I saw a guy In Arizona had 5 for sale and he was the only one I could find that had them now ...

He did have the Blue one also ...

I would take this over car over the Honda S2000 & the price is about the same ...

[Jerry]

EASY OF HANDLING AND REPAIR COST ARE ALSO A FACTOR ..
That is definatly a babe magnet ...

Fast and resonable priced .. not too many of them here in the Us... but I saw a guy In Arizona had 5 for sale and he was the only one I could find that had them now ...

He did have the Blue one also ...

I would take this over car over the Honda S2000 & the price is about the same ...

Only 38 dealers have them throughout the entire U.S. This model is only having 2,200 produced. Lotus had an exemption on DOT safety for these with the bumper and headlight regulation. They are back ordered like crazy. The new elise is due for production mid 2005. The new ones look horrible in comparison....

[RET]

GOOD LUCK BRYAN! Let us know how it goes!!!!! Rootin' for you.

[edsrange]

Good Luck Bryan, I've been exploring use of French Fry etc Oil for my Volvo 610 Tow Vehicle in the future. :happy26:

[patrice]

Best of Luck Bryan! :huge:

[BRYAN]

Hi everyone I just wanted to give and update ..

I submitted the proposal ... Had a 1 hour meeting .. over dinner .. and gave my speach for biodiesel ..


He seemed interested .. but needed his people go over my figures and wanted a demostration of the product in use ..

I have an idea to really knock him over & to get him on board 100% ..

I have a friend that will let me use his diesel Frieghtliner van and I will arrive in FLA with the biodiesel in the truck after traveling 2,200 miles and then he willl be very impressed to see the advantages and potential profits of this venture ..
He has a fleet of diesel trucks and if he can spend less to fuel them then that is making money .. and he is interested in making money .. He made that point quite clear ..

I didn' t think it was going to be a cake walk . but he didn;t say no.. & get the h*** out of here ...

I need to have more techinal and financial information and a ESTABLISHED AND FUNCTIONING plant tour before he is commited to my project .. That is encouraging that he wants more infomation ..

.Thank you to everyone that supports this idea .. I'm drained and need to recharge my batteries

[RET]

http://rds.yahoo.com/S=53720272/K=biodeisel/v=2/SID=e/l=NSR/R=1/SIG=12far6bfr/EXP=1116447552/*-http%3A//www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=3347762&nav=0RcxZwSC

President Bush came to Central Virginia Monday urging Congress to support alternative fuels.

[BRYAN]

A Bio-diesel productin facility will be a great business to own ...
I've not giving up on the Idea ..

I have seen in person a low dollar production plant & hope to view a larger scale production plant as well and hopefully get the funding to build a plant somewhere in between ..


There are tax incentives .. jobs creation .. a growing curiousity for The clean burning , good smelling fuel ...


When will it happen ???

It's just a matter of having a bulletproof business plan and the right Investors and away you go ..


I was told it takes about 3 to 4 months to get a medium scale plant into operation and selling the Bio-diesel .. using virgin soy oil .

There is a growing demand for Bio-diesel , that will only increase as the months & years pass ... not just for the USA , but for the rest of the world as well ..


Build it and they will buy it !!!!! :D


It's good to see that GW feels the same as I do when it comes to Bio-Diesel ..... :huge:

[drtymnky]

I am all for bio-diesel. There was a segment on the Spike show "Trucks" which was very enthusiastic about it.

Makes me want to jump onboard.

[RET]

I saw that show. (are you suprised?)

[drtymnky]

RET- I knew you had good taste in shows! One day I'll have a diesel 4X4.

[RET]

... and in cars. See post #7 above. Sat in one a few months ago. Niiiiiiiiiiiiice. Next ... a ride.

"Nightfall blue. I perfer longevity as opposed to the quick rush. Besides just ask any woman... its all about endurance."

Silver ... not Nightfall Blue. Definitely.

Endurance ..... hmmmm. ;)

[lordrazor1]

What about bio-gas? We need something to lower these prices.

[dougmyers]

... and in cars. See post #7 above. Sat in one a few months ago. Niiiiiiiiiiiiice. Next ... a ride.

"Nightfall blue. I perfer longevity as opposed to the quick rush. Besides just ask any woman... its all about endurance."

Silver ... not Nightfall Blue. Definitely.

Endurance ..... hmmmm. ;)
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You are telling off on yourself girl! But thats ok I like that! :drunk:

[Sandman]

Good Luck with your proposal. I've been reading a lot lately in mainstream media about bio diesel. It seems to be the best alternative to gas. This is a great source of info, very informative:

http://www.oilendgame.com/

Jerry

I saw one of those in San Diego this year, very nice. Lotus built a one off 400+hp version for a customer that was in the mag Top Gear not to long ago:
http://www.grouplotus.com/car/car_product.php?id=2&mid=11

I'm holding out for the Infiniti Skyline GTR in '07. :D

[Geoff]

What about bio-gas? We need something to lower these prices.

I have heard recently that a limited number of pumps will opening here and there, selling an 85% ethanol blend. Might have been Kentucky, maybe Ohio. IIRC, price will be around $1.60/gal.

Bio-diesel is an idea that's always been around, but never generated significant interest. The Big Oil lobby has made sure of that, just as they made sure that passenger rail service would never take hold in America. Gotta build those highways. Old habits die hard, but with gas prices being what they are, that may be changing. The very first "diesel" engines were actually designed to run on peanut oil. But because diesel was so cheap at that time, it became the fuel of choice. In Hawaii, I understand there's a lot of bio-diesel used, as producers use waste oil from the restaurant industry to make it. The military makes and uses bio-diesel. And there have always been individuals who make their own. Smart folks.

Bryan, I wish you the best in your venture. I hope its time has come. Do you plan to recycle vegetable oils, or use soybeans, or both?

[BRYAN]

FROM FRESH VIRGIN SOY OILS , flax seed , rapp seed , penut oil .. are just a few to pick from ..

I feel this may be the best way to start out & then start to recover Used oils from the resurant industries as profits increase.. but for a larger scale project you need a steady & consistant base to start with .. the recycled oils tend to have different end results as different feed stocks are introduced .

Consistancity with the output of product is what is needed to be a quality producer .

There is more labor & materials needed for extracting the food debris from the oil before it can be processed .
Used oils can be used for heating & electricity generation applications where quality is not as critical , even still there is a standard that must be meet .

[lordrazor1]

FROM FRESH VIRGIN SOY OILS , flax seed , rapp seed , penut oil .. are just a few to pick from ..

I feel this may be the best way to start out & then start to recover Used oils from the resurant industries as profits increase.. but for a larger scale project you need a steady & consistant base to start with .. the recycled oils tend to have different end results as different feed stocks are introduced .

Consistancity with the output of product is what is needed to be a quality producer .

There is more labor & materials needed for extracting the food debris from the oil before it can be processed .
Used oils can be used for heating & electricity generation applications where quality is not as critical , even still there is a standard that must be meet .

The pioneer of Bio-Diesel was George Washington Carver, who in my book was the Albert Einstien of Agriculture and the DeVinci of Chemistry.....A very brillint man. Ford also seen the potenial in this, so he got with Carver to see what could be done, but at the time is wasn't cost effective since fossil fuels were cheaper. Another fact the German Diesel, who invented the diesel engine used peanut oil to run one of his engines. Just thought you would like to know these little tid-bits of info.

[nyinvest]

What I would like to know is if the "leftovers" after combustion have been figured out.

The first biodiesels always made you hungry because they smelled like french fries. The worst part was that you ended up with a thick sludgy gook tht built up. Regular diesel left a black, mostly dry soot or sometimes an oily residue that was easy enough to clean with regular shop cleaners. The bio stuff left a blackish, slimy coating on everything that was much more difficult to clean. Where as the regular diesel residue could be mostly wiped up from a mechanical standpoint, the bio stuff just smeared. The bio also left a funky coating on the sides of the trailers it was pulling. It wasn't really noticeable until it rained or snowed.

Not sure how the electronic engines handle the stuff. Does it have the exact same combustion properties and latent heat as traditional Diesel? Do the sensors properly pick up the differences and are the computers programmed from the factory to deal with it or are you looking at flashing the computers with new parameters?

I would have to think that engine tuning could take care of a lot of that and the EPA 03 engines might be better suited, but then again it might build up more inside the EGR system.

Going to have to be price competitive is the real bottom line. Last week diesel dropped here down to $2.43 after peaking at over $2.60 a month or so ago. Nation on highway average is hovering at about $2.15.