NON-US Instructions and procedures for foreigners

[lance]

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Dear Mr. Lance,

Although the foreign investment law has not been enacted yet however the instructions and procedures that will be required for foreigners to purchase stock and the transfer of ownership have been issued.

To purchase stock and to transfer ownership from the proxy company to the investor’s name the following documentation must be submitted and certified by the Iraqi Embassy or Consulate in your country:

1- ID Card

2- Valid Passport

3- Complete Address, Email and Telephone No.

4- Three Signature Copies.

I would highly appreciate if you could post this information on the forum informing our investors to prepare the above.

Best regards,

Mr. I

Manager

International Foreign Relations Dept.

[Garf]

Hmmm do we have a consulate ?? :) I know Melb has some but doubt Iraq.

So is this the case for everyone or non-Warka account holders ??

Hoping the latter as Canberra gives me the irrits and I don't have a valid passport :)

Whatever it takes.....

[Garf]

For youse Aussies out there.....

Embassy of The Republic of Iraq
48 Culgoa Cct
O'Malley ACT 2606

Interestingly, it shares the same street as Embassies for Iran, Libya, Chile and North Korea !

whereis.com shows it with an unfortunate target like indicator !!

[R1CH1Y]

For uk'ers, here's the embassy in London for when Lance follows up with yet more excellent information. :wave:

Iraq Embassy
9 Holland Villas Road
London
W14 8BP
Telephone: 020 7602 8456
020 7581 2264/ 7589 3356
Consulate: 169 Knightsbridge
London SW7 1DW

Telephone: (020) 7581 2264
Fax: (020) 7589 3356

[onenomad]

Thanks for the info Lance hope there isn't a short time period I'm a Canadian living in the UK going through Duel Citizenship at the moment which can take months once completed will then have to apply for new passport lets hope time is on our side for those that need to sort the required documents out.

[onenomad]

This is all good news shows things are on the move I appreciate all your great posts and info, Can we break this thread into two for those of us in the UK as I'm sure the procedure will be close to being the same with possible minor differences Cheers off to work on the night shift now hopefully not for much longer best of luck to all.

[Chaka]

Also this is another pain i had to deal with

I had 2 separate forms to fill out and have notarized. I considered each its own "document" but stapled them together so a careless worker wouldnt lose them and cost me more time

According to Sec of State of MN, they considered it 1 document and sent back with only 1 seal. They didnt care how many pages.

If there was a staple they notarized top page only

cost me weeks worth of time

So I guess one should find out from all 3 places (state, national and iraqi emb ) what they're definition of a document is.
This will also affect cost...... if you can staple all 3 "forms" and get considered as one document you will be charged only for one seal.

[onenomad]

I have sent an email to the Embassy in London for those of us in the UK asking for clarification/confirmation for UK residents will post reply as soon as I get it. MODS please feel free to move this post to start a separate thread for those in the UK if you wish Thank You

[Jonny2Jags]

I have sent an email to the Embassy in London for those of us in the UK asking for clarification/confirmation for UK residents will post reply as soon as I get it. MODS please feel free to move this post to start a separate thread for those in the UK if you wish Thank You

Yes, it's interesting what response (if any) you might get. When dealing with foreign embassies, I've always found ACTUALLY GOING in person speeds things along.
Regarding the 'three signed copies'....what are they talking about? Signed copies of your passport/ID page, or something with your name and address on affirming who you are?
I don't mind travelling to London to check it out, it's only an hour away, but I bet the staff there will be CLUELESS about what I'm on about.
I'm going to see what anyone else comes up with, first.
Fingers crossed for your email.

[Jonny2Jags]

Again, I've been thinking about this issue.

Is it not a HUGE HASSLE to swap shares in to your own name, anyway?

Why not just leave them as 'proxy' owned through Warka? From what I can make of it, it's likely the broker (Warka) would hang on to your share certificates anyway, meaning you'd never see them, so why go to the trouble and expense of transferring in to your own name?????

If/when it comes time to 'sell', you issue instructions to Warka, and they sell those proxy shares and credit your account.

Am I missing something, here? For instance, has Warka said they won't hold shares for foreigners in this way?

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[Jonny2Jags]

OK....I've written to Warka about this, will post when I get something back.

[Jonny2Jags]

OK, well, this is what I received in only a few hours from Mr I. I'm not too sure if only one of the items from the list needs certification, or all of them?

Can someone offer an opinion? It looks to me like the proxy arrangement can continue ad infinitum.

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Dear xxxxxx,



It is always a pleasure to be of assistance and support.



Please note that we only need one copy of the following documents certified by our Embassy:



1- ID

2- Passport

3- Mailing and contact information.

4- Three signatures for verification.



It is still possible to purchase shares through our proxy company,



Best regards,



Mxxxx K. Ixxxxxxxxxx

Manager

International Foreign Relations Dept.




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Dear Mr Ixxxx,



Account No: xxxxxx



It has come to my attention that the transfer of proxy shares to their foreign buyers may become legally possible in the near future. I have seen the requirements for this, which involves in essence: passport/ID documents and 3 copies of signature bearing documents to be presented to the Iraqi Embassy, in my case, the embassy in London.



This seems a little complicated, and my enquiry to your good self, therefore, is whether or not it may be possible to continue to buy, own, and sell shares, as a foreigner, via proxy through Warka.



I am particularly interested to learn whether or not I may be able to continue to own the shares I currently have via the proxy arrangement I have with Warka.



Thank you for any information you may be able to provide about this.



With kind regards,

xxxxxxxx.

[MEALTICKET]

People is all this legal? Meaning by Iraqi law. Seeing no other banks have been doing this. Without other banks doing this. Could Warka get in trouble for changing the names to foreginers?

[Jonny2Jags]

Hey JJ
Guess Mr. I did not really answer the question of indefinite holding in Warka's name. Maybe a follow up E Mail with this question is in order.
Good Luck,
MED
You're right. A reluctance to answer could have something to do with uncertainty, as to the answer, such as a change of policy in the future, etc.
To me, it's all a bit vague. Assuming they want authorised copies of each one of the items on the list, that's ok that's fine, what I don't understand is what they want regarding the three signatures. Are we to sign on a single piece of paper and get each authorised signed & stamped in front of them, or on single pieces of paper with name and address at the top & a preamble along the lines of: "I certify that I, JJ of (where ever) live at the said address and that below is my signature affirming the fact"

I'll get back to the Mr I with what I've said above, and see what he says.

I know it's a hassle, but from what medsouth said, I accept it could be worth it.

[onenomad]

The process for us in the UK is very simple below is an email received today from Mr. I all we need to do is have the Embassy certify the required documents then send to Warka

Dear Mr. *******,

It is always a pleasure to be of assistance and support.

This information is required by the ISX and the instructions strictly states the following documentation must be certified by the Iraqi Embassy or Consulate:

- ID
- Passport
- Mailing Address and Contact Details
- Your three signatures for verification

So far no time limit has been set as to when the client needs to submit the necessary documents. Whenever the client completes and submits the entire certified documentation to our bank we will then make the needed arrangements for transferring ownership. The stocks of the client will remain in the name of the proxy company until the necessary documentation has been provided to us. The client will remain entitled to the shares held in the name of the proxy company until it is transferred to his good name.

Best regards,

Mr I
Deputy Managing Director
International Affairs

[Dinar Duchess]

I have sent an email to the Embassy in London for those of us in the UK asking for clarification/confirmation for UK residents will post reply as soon as I get it. MODS please feel free to move this post to start a separate thread for those in the UK if you wish Thank You


:huge: thanks onenomad....

[onenomad]

:huge: thanks onenomad....

Your most welcome still waiting on reply from Embassy will post as soon as I get it if by mid next week still haven't heard I will phone them and inquire then let you all know what I find out.

[Seaview]

Thanks Onenomad - and not forgetting johnny2jags too. :)

[Jonny2Jags]

ONENOMAD...I'm keenly waiting to see what the embassy say to you. I can't go up there this week, so it will have to be next week for me, I'll phone them before I go, anyway.

What I've been thinking is that the document is probably only going to be a reference that the bank will hang on to in your file should the 'isx police' call on the bank (Warka acting as broker) to spot check, the important thing about the document is the official stamp of the Iraq consulate (and no doubt the fee paid ;) ). For that reason I'd imagine the wording of the document isn't all that crucial, but I include an example in the following communication that I've had with Mr I.

Dear Mr Ixxx,
Thank you for the details about how I may go about the transfer of shares.
For clarification, I propose to photo-copy both my Driver's Licence & Passport ID page to one single document that includes my name, address, telephone number, & email address, signed THREE TIMES.

I intend to write:
To whom it May concern.
I (name) of (address) include copies of my Driver's Licence & Passport on this document and include the required certification by the Iraq Consulate in London for the purpose of trading shares in my own name on the Iraqi Stock Exchange through my broker in Iraq.
(signed)
MR (NAME)
(signed)
MR (NAME)
(signed)
MR (NAME)

Mr. I, if this is acceptable, can you clarify if I need to supply the document in triplicate in order for you to obtain my signature three times, or shall I sign the single document three times?

Your advice on this matter would be most helpful.

Thank you in advance.
With kind regards,
MR x xxxxxxxxxx.

RESPONSE:

Dear Mr. xxxxxxxxx,

Just sign the single document three times which should be sufficient.

My services are always at your disposal.

Best regards,

Mr. I

Deputy Managing Director

International Affairs.

[Seaview]

So we need to have 3 different members of staff of the Iraqi Embassy/Consulate sign this document along with a Stamp from the Embassy/Consulate?

[Dinar Duchess]

So we need to have 3 different members of staff of the Iraqi Embassy/Consulate sign this document along with a Stamp from the Embassy/Consulate?


your specimen signatures... three of them

[Jonny2Jags]

What a shambles, look at this:
http://www.iraqembassy.org.uk/english/display.aspx?id=36&sub=3

Anyway, the important thing to note is that it is most certainly a Consular matter.
Iraqi Consulate
Tel: 020 75893356
169 Knightsbridge
London SW7 1DW

The tube station is right across the road from it on Brompton Road...

[Seaview]

Yes - I saw that the other day. :(

So we provide 3 specimens of our signature and have it stamped at the Consulate.

They don't actually sign anything - there just on stamp duty?

Is this right?

Sorry to sound like a 6 year old :eek: but I just want to be completely clear - so that I can go there prepared.

[Jonny2Jags]

Yes - I saw that the other day. :(

So we provide 3 specimens of our signature and have it stamped at the Consulate.

They don't actually sign anything - there just on stamp duty?

Is this right?

Sorry to sound like a 6 year old :eek: but I just want to be completely clear - so that I can go there prepared.

Seaview...who knows? Yes, it's definitely THREE of your own signatures, but whether they sign and stamp the document is unknown to me at this point.

The number I gave for the consulate is WRONG. It's been changed to:
020 79351058
I'm trying to get through to someone there as I type, but they're either engaged....or won't pick up.

[Jonny2Jags]

OK, well, I spoke to someone at the consulate this afternoon, their English was utter perfection and they were very polite.
It seems that they can certify documents. The fee for each document is £100. They are open or available between 10am and 1pm Monday to Friday.
HOWEVER . . .
Documents must first be certified by the Arab Chamber of Commerce. I discovered that their full name, address, & telephone to be:
ARAB-BRITISH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
43 UPPER GROSVENOR STREET
LONDON W1K 2NJ
Tel: 020 7235 4363
web address: www.abcc.org.uk

That's all I know so far, I'll contact abcc tomorrow and see what they say, and post again....and quote how much (sorry I'm being sarcastic).

[MedC]

Iraq Embassy

Address:

Embassy of Iraq
215 McLeod Street
Ottawa, ON K2P 0Z8

Embassy:

Telephone : (613) 236-9177
Embassy Fax : (613) 236-9641
E-mail : Media@IraqEmbassy.ca

Embassy office hours are from 9:00AM to 3:00PM (except public holidays)


http://www.iraqembassy.ca/eng/contact.asp

:wave:

[highrolla]

hi people,

so let me get this straight, do i need to sent copies of my passport and another form of photo id or do they want something with proof of address like utility bill etc?

I dont have any other photo id other than my passport so just wondered?

keep up the good work

:D

[Garf]

100 lbs a document !!!!

Eeek... I mean... :eek:

Hope the Australian version ain't such a pain in the wallet.

[Garf]

http://www.austarab.com.au/about/about.html

We have an Australian Arab Chamber of Commerce.

Contact is in Canbrrraaahhh but they have state contacts in the page above.

E.G. The Victorian one is this:

Level 19, HWT Tower
40 City Road. Southbank
MELBOURNE VIC 3006
Ph: 61 3 9014 8111
Fax: 61 3 9014 8199

vic@austarab.com.au

Just for fun I'll practice my Arabic on the Iraqi Embassy in Oz tomorrow, and see if they know what's going on.

...or if they know our addresses :)

[Garf]

http://www.notarylocator.com.au/

Notary locators Aus-wide. There's one just a 5 minute drive from me.

And this, after checking the Oz Embassy in Iraq page, sent me here:

http://www.smartraveller.gov.au/authen.html Authentication and the processes... we're only $20 to $60 a document.

[Dinar Duchess]

OK, well, I spoke to someone at the consulate this afternoon, their English was utter perfection and they were very polite.
It seems that they can certify documents. The fee for each document is £100. They are open or available between 10am and 1pm Monday to Friday.
HOWEVER . . .
Documents must first be certified by the Arab Chamber of Commerce. I discovered that their full name, address, & telephone to be:
ARAB-BRITISH CHAMBER OF COMMERCE
43 UPPER GROSVENOR STREET
LONDON W1K 2NJ
Tel: 020 7235 4363
web address: www.abcc.org.uk (http://www.abcc.org.uk)

That's all I know so far, I'll contact abcc tomorrow and see what they say, and post again....and quote how much (sorry I'm being sarcastic).

so are you saying that before the Iraqi Embassy can certify them as correct.. the Arab chamber of Commerce has to do it first....Why cant we just get a local solicitor to verify it and then send it to the Consulate for stamping... seems very long winded

[Garf]

And finally... I think... checked out the Iraqi Embassy page in Canberra:

http://www.iraqembassyaustralia.org/Consular.htm

I raised a laugh at this... are we talking baby goats ??:

* Adding the kid to the passport of a parent.

The kid must hold an Iraqi Civil Affairs ID or an Iraqi Birth Certificate....
The age of the kid must not be over 12 years old.
There is no fee for adding the kid to the passport.

[Dinar Duchess]

£100 a document... sheeeeeeeeesh........ i hope i can get away with putting everything on one piece of paper otherwise 4 items could be a grand total of £400...:eek:

I may wait till it revals then I wont mind so much and my chauffeur can drive me around to get the formalities sorted...lol :lmao:

[Garf]

I have just compiled and sent an e-mail to the Embassy in Canberra, more or less asking what has to be done and how to go about it. I also asked about FIL :) and if the Aust-Arab CC could verify docs, or if the local Notary Public down the road was sufficient.

Aussies... PM me if you wish to see the reply.... I'll be on holidays from 31 March to 5 April being belted around the beach cricket arena by my four year old !! ... so won't be on here much.

They say on their website they're closed on Iraqi & Aussie national holidays... so I hope for a reply in a couple of months ! :)

Cheers !

[Jonny2Jags]

100 lbs a document !!!!

Eeek... I mean... :eek:

Hope the Australian version ain't such a pain in the wallet.

Well, they don't call it 'rip off Britain for nothin'....:drunk:


hi people,

so let me get this straight, do i need to sent copies of my passport and another form of photo id or do they want something with proof of address like utility bill etc?

I dont have any other photo id other than my passport so just wondered?

keep up the good work

:D

hmmmmmmm, well, I think it's likely you're going to have problems, I have no answer for you. As a piece of fun-fact-trivia, as far as I'm aware, photo-Driving Licences aren't really accepted as definitive proof of ID in the UK, anyway, but with a bit of luck, we might get away with it and sweep in under the Iraq radar on that issue :shhh:
I think the answer to your enquiry really lies with Warka. I'm in the position of having to apply for photo DL, because I still have the old paper one, so I'm 2 weeks away from even writing up the document.


so are you saying that before the Iraqi Embassy can certify them as correct.. the Arab chamber of Commerce has to do it first....Why cant we just get a local solicitor to verify it and then send it to the Consulate for stamping... seems very long winded

It's been an awfully long day for me today, and I haven't been able to get round to contacting the abcc. I feel almost in a position of being able to predict what they'll say.....this is my guess....I phone them up, and yeah sure course they'll do it....for 'x' amount, but I can only send them the document, so it must first be notarised :D The Iraq Consulate were QUITE DEFINITE about the document first being certified by the Arab CC, that's as much as I can say about that.
I'll find out tomorrow......but foreign investment into the isx hasn't, as far as I can tell, be legalised yet, anyway, so maybe there's no hurry. Also, as for the 'opening up of flood gates' and the like, well, with all these stupid hoops everyone has to leap through, it makes you wonder if it'll ever take off :rolleyes: .
I just wonder if it's best for now to leave the proxy arrangement in place, until the isx starts to make some meaningful steps....yet also being in a position and being ready through the information we've gleaned on here, to transfer in to our own names at a more timely moment, but that's all down to individual choices.....

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[MedC]

Hi everyone,

Mr. I's e-mail states that Warka requires the documentation (a copy of our driver's license, a copy of our passport, our address, e-mail, tel number, and three of our signatures) certified by the Iraqi Embassy OR our countrie's consulate.

I called the Canadian government office this morning, and they advised me to do the following:

AUTHENTICATION OF CANADIAN DOCUMENTS FOR SENDING ABROAD:

1st Step - the document will need to be certified by a notary ,or lawyer.

2nd Step - the document will need to be authenticated by the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

Authentication and Service of Documents Section (JLAC)
Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada
125 Sussex Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
K1A 0G2
Toll-Free number: 800 267 8376 ( 10:30am - 12:00pm & 3:00pm-4:00pm)

http://www.international.gc.ca/common/authentication_documents-en.asp

My next step will be to call the Foreign Affair's office, and make sure that this will be suffice! -- If Mr. I wants to confirm that this will be OK for Canadian ISX investors, it would be great.

If anyone has additional information, please post it here!

:wave:

[MedC]

Hi everyone,

Mr. I's e-mail states that Warka requires the documentation (a copy of our driver's license, a copy of our passport, our address, e-mail, tel number, and three of our signatures) certified by the Iraqi Embassy OR our countrie's consulate.

I called the Canadian government office this morning, and they advised me to do the following:

AUTHENTICATION OF CANADIAN DOCUMENTS FOR SENDING ABROAD:

1st Step - the document will need to be certified by a notary ,or lawyer.

2nd Step - the document will need to be authenticated by the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

Authentication and Service of Documents Section (JLAC)
Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada
125 Sussex Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
K1A 0G2
Toll-Free number: 800 267 8376 ( 10:30am - 12:00pm & 3:00pm-4:00pm)

http://www.international.gc.ca/common/authentication_documents-en.asp

My next step will be to call the Foreign Affair's office, and make sure that this will be suffice! -- If Mr. I wants to confirm that this will be OK for Canadian ISX investors, it would be great.

If anyone has additional information, please post it here!

:wave:

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

You will need to instruct the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade to forward your documents to the Iraq Embassy.
In addition they require two cover letters: one for themselves, and one for the Iraq Embassy.
The Iraq Embassy has informed me that the cost of certification is $5 USD per document / per page.


In summary:

1- certify documents by notary or lawyer - make sure you have two cover letters.
2- Send a pre-paid FEDEX Envelope, and a money order in US funds to the Department of Foreign affairs. The amount will depend on the number of pages your are certifying.
Mention to Foreign Affairs that once they review the documents to forward them to the Iraq Embassy.

3- The Iraq Embassy will stamp documents, and will return them in the pre-paid FEDEX envelope that you had provided.

P.S. If you are not quite sure of the amount that you need to send, fax your copies (after step 1) to the Iraq Embassy / attn: Consulate
and they will inform you on the exact amount to send.
Fax number: (613) 567-1101

:wave:

[Dinar Duchess]

Well, they don't call it 'rip off Britain for nothin'....:drunk:



hmmmmmmm, well, I think it's likely you're going to have problems, I have no answer for you. As a piece of fun-fact-trivia, as far as I'm aware, photo-Driving Licences aren't really accepted as definitive proof of ID in the UK, anyway, but with a bit of luck, we might get away with it and sweep in under the Iraq radar on that issue :shhh:
I think the answer to your enquiry really lies with Warka. I'm in the position of having to apply for photo DL, because I still have the old paper one, so I'm 2 weeks away from even writing up the document.



It's been an awfully long day for me today, and I haven't been able to get round to contacting the abcc. I feel almost in a position of being able to predict what they'll say.....this is my guess....I phone them up, and yeah sure course they'll do it....for 'x' amount, but I can only send them the document, so it must first be notarised :D The Iraq Consulate were QUITE DEFINITE about the document first being certified by the Arab CC, that's as much as I can say about that.
I'll find out tomorrow......but foreign investment into the isx hasn't, as far as I can tell, be legalised yet, anyway, so maybe there's no hurry. Also, as for the 'opening up of flood gates' and the like, well, with all these stupid hoops everyone has to leap through, it makes you wonder if it'll ever take off :rolleyes: .
I just wonder if it's best for now to leave the proxy arrangement in place, until the isx starts to make some meaningful steps....yet also being in a position and being ready through the information we've gleaned on here, to transfer in to our own names at a more timely moment, but that's all down to individual choices.....

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Yes I agree with what you say.... I havent been officially notified yet by Warka so I am going to wait a while.

When the time is right...I am going to prepare a document with all the details on...then get it certified as correct by a solicitor. I will then prepare a letter to the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce and send them the document to see if they will stamp it as certified. If that goes well then i will send the copy to the Iraqi Consulate for stamping. I just hope it doesnt get lost on the way particularly as that document could have cost me a couple of hundred pounds by then.

[Dinar Duchess]

Well i spoke to a gentleman at the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce in London and he said, all i have to do is get my documents notarised by a local solicitor, then I send them to my local Chamber of Commerce (Dorset in my case). Once they have certified them they forward them to the Iraqi Consulate and possibly the Foreign Office... so it is not such a difficult task after all as they do everything.. all i have to do is pick up the document when it is returned to the Chamber of Commerce offices.

I have just emailed the local Chamber of Commerce to find out fees and will post the result when I have them.

[Jonny2Jags]

Well i spoke to a gentleman at the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce in London and he said, all i have to do is get my documents notarised by a local solicitor, then I send them to my local Chamber of Commerce (Dorset in my case). Once they have certified them they forward them to the Iraqi Consulate and possibly the Foreign Office... so it is not such a difficult task after all as they do everything.. all i have to do is pick up the document when it is returned to the Chamber of Commerce offices.

I have just emailed the local Chamber of Commerce to find out fees and will post the result when I have them.

I'd certainly be grateful for further info about how you get on, and thanks in advance for that.For the time-being, my interest has waned a tad in getting shares transferred in to my name, mainly because of the latest news stories I've been reading on the isx-aman site, and also the sliding share prices.Re-motivating factors, for me, would be an abandonment of the ridiculous regulations for foreign investors, and obviously legally allowing foreigners to buy and sell....moving in to profit would be good too!

[highrolla]

can anyone tell me what i do as i have no driving license, what other forms of id would they accept?

thanks highrolla

[thegujju]

Any other Brits starting the ball rolling re this?

Would be good to hear how you're getting on.

[Garf]

We Aussies have a similar path thru our Aust-Arab Chamber of Commerce.

Contacting our Iraqi Embassy direct has been non-productive !

[Dinar Duchess]

Any other Brits starting the ball rolling re this?

Would be good to hear how you're getting on.


Hi, yes me, I am emailing at the moment. I havent verified the procedure yet. I can tell you that I have been told that you need to get your documents notarised by a local solicitor. Once completed you send them to the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce who do the rest for you, like they send them to the Iraqi embassy for you and return them. I did contact them and they told me to go to my local office, who dont know what I am talking about. I am still trying to find out the fees involved and confirm where I send the documents, I will let the forum know as soon as I have it straight... emailed a few people but keep getting pushed onto someone else.

[Garf]

$310 to get my expired passport renewed...... :eek:

I may just wait a while !

[Dinar Duchess]

Hi, yes me, I am emailing at the moment. I havent verified the procedure yet. I can tell you that I have been told that you need to get your documents notarised by a local solicitor. Once completed you send them to the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce who do the rest for you, like they send them to the Iraqi embassy for you and return them. I did contact them and they told me to go to my local office, who dont know what I am talking about. I am still trying to find out the fees involved and confirm where I send the documents, I will let the forum know as soon as I have it straight... emailed a few people but keep getting pushed onto someone else.

Well I am now trying to contact the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce again to get them to certify my documents..... have not had a reply yet.. so i am no further forward on this.

[Seaview]

can anyone tell me what i do as i have no driving license, what other forms of id would they accept?

thanks highrolla

Passport and/or Birth Certificate.

[Seaview]

Well I am now trying to contact the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce again to get them to certify my documents..... have not had a reply yet.. so i am no further forward on this.

How are you getting on Dinar Duchess - any updates?

I am going to start the ball rolling this week - so I will see what I can find out in the next couple of weeks after going to my Solicitor with my documentation.

I will report back.

[Dinar Duchess]

No updates Seaview, because the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce are not replying to me now... I did speak to someone who was very helpful and I may have to ring him again. Before I do that I am going to send a letter as a last resort by recorded delivery... all i need is the fee they require to do this process.

Do you have any info on this process? If you do, could you put a post up.... any details you have will be appreciated.

I haven't got my docs notarised yet as i want to be sure of the correct process first...

[Seaview]

Well if I don't get any answers from Solicitors etc I will just go down to the Arab Chamber of Commerce in person and see what I can find out (that's why I put in my previous post - a couple of weeks - to give me time to go to Solicitors and Arab Chamber of Commerce) as I spend part of my week in London.

[Dinar Duchess]

Well if I don't get any answers from Solicitors etc I will just go down to the Arab Chamber of Commerce in person and see what I can find out (that's why I put in my previous post - a couple of weeks - to give me time to go to Solicitors and Arab Chamber of Commerce) as I spend part of my week in London.


Thats great Seaview.... thanks for your help.. look forward to your next post.:huge:

[highrolla]

thanks for letting me know, I'm also from UK so will be keeping an eye on this thread and will post how I got on.

highrolla


Passport and/or Birth Certificate.

[Roninvestor]

Help!! I jumped the gun and sent my papers to the state and then to the Ebassy before all the changes was made. Now I am out over $200.00. Iraq Embassy took $160.00 and STILL DO NOT HAVE MY DOC'S SIGNED BY THE IRAQ EMBASSY. Anyone else experienced this? Now I can't get the Iraq Embassy to return my calls. WHAT NEXT?

[cowpoke]

Help!! I jumped the gun and sent my papers to the state and then to the Ebassy before all the changes was made. Now I am out over $200.00. Iraq Embassy took $160.00 and STILL DO NOT HAVE MY DOC'S SIGNED BY THE IRAQ EMBASSY. Anyone else experienced this? Now I can't get the Iraq Embassy to return my calls. WHAT NEXT?

I take it you did NOT go through the Arab Chamber?

[Dinar Duchess]

I am in the UK... has anyone actually achieved a satisfactory result yet... if so please post.... I have done nothing yet as I have not been able to get a reply from the Arab Chamber of Commerce.

[Dinar Duchess]

Has anyone completed the process yet.. if so please post

[Dinar Duchess]

IRAQ DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS

http://www.abcc.org.uk/content_display.cfm?cit_id=520&short_version=yes&useCache=false

Found this on the Arab British Chamber of Commerce site.

[onenomad]

IRAQ DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS

http://www.abcc.org.uk/content_display.cfm?cit_id=520&short_version=yes&useCache=false

Found this on the Arab British Chamber of Commerce site.


That all looks confusing, Has anyone in the UK gone through this process yet if so please help....I only have a passport no drivers license etc any ideas?

[Midnight Tide]

OMG, even I have somewhat started thinking about this ISX investment, but in order to get in I need to do all this??????? What?...I barely have time to get out and socialize a little then do all this:

Originally Posted by MedC
Hi everyone,

Mr. I's e-mail states that Warka requires the documentation (a copy of our driver's license, a copy of our passport, our address, e-mail, tel number, and three of our signatures) certified by the Iraqi Embassy OR our countrie's consulate.

I called the Canadian government office this morning, and they advised me to do the following:

AUTHENTICATION OF CANADIAN DOCUMENTS FOR SENDING ABROAD:

1st Step - the document will need to be certified by a notary ,or lawyer.

2nd Step - the document will need to be authenticated by the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

Authentication and Service of Documents Section (JLAC)
Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada
125 Sussex Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
K1A 0G2
Toll-Free number: 800 267 8376 ( 10:30am - 12:00pm & 3:00pm-4:00pm)

http://www.international.gc.ca/common/authentication_documents-en.asp

My next step will be to call the Foreign Affair's office, and make sure that this will be suffice! -- If Mr. I wants to confirm that this will be OK for Canadian ISX investors, it would be great.

If anyone has additional information, please post it here!




ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

You will need to instruct the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade to forward your documents to the Iraq Embassy.
In addition they require two cover letters: one for themselves, and one for the Iraq Embassy.
The Iraq Embassy has informed me that the cost of certification is $5 USD per document / per page.


In summary:

1- certify documents by notary or lawyer - make sure you have two cover letters.
2- Send a pre-paid FEDEX Envelope, and a money order in US funds to the Department of Foreign affairs. The amount will depend on the number of pages your are certifying.
Mention to Foreign Affairs that once they review the documents to forward them to the Iraq Embassy.

3- The Iraq Embassy will stamp documents, and will return them in the pre-paid FEDEX envelope that you had provided.

P.S. If you are not quite sure of the amount that you need to send, fax your copies (after step 1) to the Iraq Embassy / attn: Consulate
and they will inform you on the exact amount to send.
Fax number: (613) 567-1101



Wow, maybe I will wait till some of those restrictions are loosened a little bit.

[Dinar Duchess]

OMG, even I have somewhat started thinking about this ISX investment, but in order to get in I need to do all this??????? What?...I barely have time to get out and socialize a little then do all this:

Originally Posted by MedC
Hi everyone,

Mr. I's e-mail states that Warka requires the documentation (a copy of our driver's license, a copy of our passport, our address, e-mail, tel number, and three of our signatures) certified by the Iraqi Embassy OR our countrie's consulate.

I called the Canadian government office this morning, and they advised me to do the following:

AUTHENTICATION OF CANADIAN DOCUMENTS FOR SENDING ABROAD:

1st Step - the document will need to be certified by a notary ,or lawyer.

2nd Step - the document will need to be authenticated by the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

Authentication and Service of Documents Section (JLAC)
Foreign Affairs and International Trade Canada
125 Sussex Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
K1A 0G2
Toll-Free number: 800 267 8376 ( 10:30am - 12:00pm & 3:00pm-4:00pm)

http://www.international.gc.ca/common/authentication_documents-en.asp

My next step will be to call the Foreign Affair's office, and make sure that this will be suffice! -- If Mr. I wants to confirm that this will be OK for Canadian ISX investors, it would be great.

If anyone has additional information, please post it here!




ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

You will need to instruct the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade to forward your documents to the Iraq Embassy.
In addition they require two cover letters: one for themselves, and one for the Iraq Embassy.
The Iraq Embassy has informed me that the cost of certification is $5 USD per document / per page.


In summary:

1- certify documents by notary or lawyer - make sure you have two cover letters.
2- Send a pre-paid FEDEX Envelope, and a money order in US funds to the Department of Foreign affairs. The amount will depend on the number of pages your are certifying.
Mention to Foreign Affairs that once they review the documents to forward them to the Iraq Embassy.

3- The Iraq Embassy will stamp documents, and will return them in the pre-paid FEDEX envelope that you had provided.

P.S. If you are not quite sure of the amount that you need to send, fax your copies (after step 1) to the Iraq Embassy / attn: Consulate
and they will inform you on the exact amount to send.
Fax number: (613) 567-1101



Wow, maybe I will wait till some of those restrictions are loosened a little bit.


You are not alone... we are all a bit confused with this. I have drafted a letter to the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce, because when I spoke to them they did say that they do everything. When I say 'everything' I mean they send the notarised documents to the iraqi embassy/consulate and the foreign office and then it is returned to me. I am not sure how to present this information though, on one sheet of paper of several.. and of course how much...

[onenomad]

You are not alone... we are all a bit confused with this. I have drafted a letter to the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce, because when I spoke to them they did say that they do everything. When I say 'everything' I mean they send the notarised documents to the iraqi embassy/consulate and the foreign office and then it is returned to me. I am not sure how to present this information though, on one sheet of paper of several.. and of course how much...


I think its best if you can do it all on one sheet from what I understand you pay a fee per document so might be a bit cheaper if you can fit it all on one.

[onenomad]

You are not alone... we are all a bit confused with this. I have drafted a letter to the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce, because when I spoke to them they did say that they do everything. When I say 'everything' I mean they send the notarised documents to the iraqi embassy/consulate and the foreign office and then it is returned to me. I am not sure how to present this information though, on one sheet of paper of several.. and of course how much...


I think its best if you can do it all on one sheet from what I understand you pay a fee per document so might be a bit cheaper if you can fit it all on one.

[onenomad]

Have just emailed both the Iraqi embassy and Arab/British commerce hopfully one of them reply the embassy never did when I emailed them awhile back will inform if I get a reply

[Seaview]

Hello everybody,

Sorry it has taken me sometime to sort this out. The process has been somewhat complicated and challenging to say the least. My documents are almost complete and I expect them returned to myself next week. From what I have seen the process has stepped up a gear since the Conference in Canary Wharf in late June - so I don't expect the process to be so time consuming for others in future.

I am expecting a phone call on Monday to confirm to me the overall price (they do charge by the page - I submitted one page) and what my documents have been certified as. There was confusion over the price and I had to write two cheques to cover the final decision. There was also confusion over what they are certified as because we are individuals not a Company.

As soon as I have received confirmation of this I will publish the process, contact names and information you will need. They differ if you live outside London.

I hope this helps and I think the process will be alot quicker here on in.:)

[Dinar Duchess]

Hello everybody,

Sorry it has taken me sometime to sort this out. The process has been somewhat complicated and challenging to say the least. My documents are almost complete and I expect them returned to myself next week. From what I have seen the process has stepped up a gear since the Conference in Canary Wharf in late June - so I don't expect the process to be so time consuming for others in future.

I am expecting a phone call on Monday to confirm to me the overall price (they do charge by the page - I submitted one page) and what my documents have been certified as. There was confusion over the price and I had to write two cheques to cover the final decision. There was also confusion over what they are certified as because we are individuals not a Company.

As soon as I have received confirmation of this I will publish the process, contact names and information you will need. They differ if you live outside London.

I hope this helps and I think the process will be alot quicker here on in.:)

Thanks Seaview, look forward to hearing from you. Would you also give us details on how you laid out your one document.

:wave:

[onenomad]

Yes Thank You very much Seaview also ditto on the below questions


Thanks Seaview, look forward to hearing from you. Would you also give us details on how you laid out your one document.

:wave:

[oldskiier]

this is for NON- US citizens ??? only....

[onenomad]

this is for NON- US citizens ??? only....


Yes as I think a few of the steps are a bit different for the US, there is a US thread for this too

http://www.investorsiraq.com/?page=isx

[oldskiier]

Yes as I think a few of the steps are a bit different for the US, there is a US thread for this too

http://www.investorsiraq.com/?page=isx


Ok ...now I get it, this is for IF you want to put stocks in your name ...from warkas proxy, ....but if you let warka do all your buying and sellig ..you don't need to do this !@!!! RIGHT !!

[onenomad]

Ok ...now I get it, this is for IF you want to put stocks in your name ...from warkas proxy, ....but if you let warka do all your buying and sellig ..you don't need to do this !@!!! RIGHT !!


Right but what we are not sure of is if we can continue to use the proxy program after it officially opens to the world I believe there is an email from Mr I saying they will keep doing it until the ISX tells them different. Its a pain but worth it for peace of mind I'm sorting my documents out now and in the next month or so will be doing it how the ISX has stated just to be safe.

[Seaview]

ADDRESS IRAQ (AL-WARKA BANK, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)
NAME : (YOUR NAME)
ADDRESS : (YOUR ADDRESS XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

TELEPHONE : (YOUR TELEPHONE)

Email : (YOUR EMAIL)

To Whom It May Concern:

I, (Name), born in the United Kingdom on (Birthdate - written in full) Certify with my three original signatures below, that this is a true and accurate copy of my British (UK) Passport and valid identification. Above is my current home address, telephone number and email address.

Passport






Drivers Licence






Three Original Signatures :

Signature : ____________________ Signature : ____________________
Date : ________________________ Date : _______________________

Signature : ____________________
Date : ________________________


For Notary Public :

County of ____________________ Country of ____________________

On this, the ____________ day of ________________20___, before me a notary public, the undersigned officer, personally appeared ________________________, known to me (or satisfactorily proven) to be the person whose name is subscribed to the within instrument, and acknowledged that he executed the same for the purposes therein contained.

In witness hereof, I hereunto set my hand and official seal.



___________________________ Notary Public




Note - I presented my notorized documents without a contact address in Iraq on them, as I was not aware that was needed. The person dealing with the documents had a typewriter handy - so just typed it on for me and this was accepted. So if your documents have already been notorized without a contact address in Iraq on them - it's ok to just add it typewritten:) .

I scanned my passport and Driver Licence onto the page then miniturized them - but obviously enough so that all the information could be clearly read. Again, this has been accepted.


This example is a bit rough - I was unable to align it all properly when copying it over - but you get the idea. I did spend sometime messing about with the 'page set-up' when doing the original for presentation to neaten it all up. The information just about managed to squeeze onto one page and looks a bit busy but it has been accepted.

Hopefully on Monday when I am told which cheques are to be banked for payment and which category they have been certified under I will be able to give you a complete outline of the entire process which you will be able to pass onto whoever deals with your documents and telephone numbers for confirmation. I will probably pass on telephone numbers and names via pm as I am not sure it would be appropriate to publish on the internet - let me know if you agree.

[onenomad]

ADDRESS IRAQ (AL-WARKA BANK, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)
NAME : (YOUR NAME)
ADDRESS : (YOUR ADDRESS XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX)

TELEPHONE : (YOUR TELEPHONE)

Email : (YOUR EMAIL)

To Whom It May Concern:

I, (Name), born in the United Kingdom on (Birthdate - written in full) Certify with my three original signatures below, that this is a true and accurate copy of my British (UK) Passport and valid identification. Above is my current home address, telephone number and email address.

Passport






Drivers Licence






Three Original Signatures :

Signature : ____________________ Signature : ____________________
Date : ________________________ Date : _______________________

Signature : ____________________
Date : ________________________


For Notary Public :

County of ____________________ Country of ____________________

On this, the ____________ day of ________________20___, before me a notary public, the undersigned officer, personally appeared ________________________, known to me (or satisfactorily proven) to be the person whose name is subscribed to the within instrument, and acknowledged that he executed the same for the purposes therein contained.

In witness hereof, I hereunto set my hand and official seal.



___________________________ Notary Public




Note - I presented my notorized documents without a contact address in Iraq on them, as I was not aware that was needed. The person dealing with the documents had a typewriter handy - so just typed it on for me and this was accepted. So if your documents have already been notorized without a contact address in Iraq on them - it's ok to just add it typewritten:) .

I scanned my passport and Driver Licence onto the page then miniturized them - but obviously enough so that all the information could be clearly read. Again, this has been accepted.


This example is a bit rough - I was unable to align it all properly when copying it over - but you get the idea. I did spend sometime messing about with the 'page set-up' when doing the original for presentation to neaten it all up. The information just about managed to squeeze onto one page and looks a bit busy but it has been accepted.

Hopefully on Monday when I am told which cheques are to be banked for payment and which category they have been certified under I will be able to give you a complete outline of the entire process which you will be able to pass onto whoever deals with your documents and telephone numbers for confirmation. I will probably pass on telephone numbers and names via pm as I am not sure it would be appropriate to publish on the internet - let me know if you agree.


Look forward to hearing from you Monday, Out of curiosity what is the approx cost?

[Seaview]

Either £87.52 or £184.52

[onenomad]

Either £87.52 or £184.52


Either way well worth it, I'm a bit uneasy about the letter as I'm a Canadian living in the UK but still have Canadian passport and Birth Certificate I have leave to remain here for an indefinite period but new passport not stamped with that visa going to have to see how I get that re-stamped. Thanks again for all the info look forward to seeing the finished process so I can crack on with it much appreciated.

[Seaview]

I would say once you have a new visa stamped (just a trip to your embassy) you can copy the above and obviously insert Canada where UK applies. I expect - although you should confirm - that you will be able to have your documents certified here, if not your embassy or the contact numbers, I will pm you now, would probably be able to advise.

[lance]

I sent my documents to the Arab American Chamber of Commerce with instructions to send original copy back to me, and a copy to Warka Bank in prepaid envelopes via Fed Ex. Documents in route. First I thought I would keep my shares in the proxy company name (to avoid transfer fees) then I decided I shouldn't buck the system. If it all goes bad for any number of reasons I just don't want it to be my fault. Shares in my name has a good ring to it. See you at the finish line.

[onenomad]

I sent my documents to the Arab American Chamber of Commerce with instructions to send original copy back to me, and a copy to Warka Bank in prepaid envelopes via Fed Ex. Documents in route. First I thought I would keep my shares in the proxy company name (to avoid transfer fees) then I decided I shouldn't buck the system. If it all goes bad for any number of reasons I just don't want it to be my fault. Shares in my name has a good ring to it. See you at the finish line.


Are you in the US or UK? I only ask because from what I gathered from all this info is once the documents are notarized we can just send them to get certified by the Iraqi Embassy in London we have a British/Arab chamber of commerce too do they need in on the act as well or is the embassy on its own good enough? Seaview did you send to them too or just the Embassy?

[Seaview]

In the UK they go to Arab Chamber of Commerce, Iraqi Embassy and British Foreign Office - all to be certified, stamped for different reasons.

[onenomad]

Hi Ya Seaview, Just curious if you have heard anything back yet in your progress with your Docs etc?

[Seaview]

Hello. I did receive a call on Monday but they just told me that they still did not know what price I would be charged at and what my documents are to be 'certified' as. I was told that my documents would be returned to me by the end of the week (have been told this before!) So I did not think there was any point posting until I knew for definite.

I did check my bank account today and neither of the cheques I had to leave have been put through my account.

I will call myself tomorrow to see what I can find out as it will be the end of the week. As soon as I am made aware of the fee's and certification I will post it.

Sorry I cannot be of more help at the moment. But have no doubt that I will do as much as I can to find out. I hope this will make the process easier for others.

[Dinar Duchess]

Hello. I did receive a call on Monday but they just told me that they still did not know what price I would be charged at and what my documents are to be 'certified' as. I was told that my documents would be returned to me by the end of the week (have been told this before!) So I did not think there was any point posting until I knew for definite.

I did check my bank account today and neither of the cheques I had to leave have been put through my account.

I will call myself tomorrow to see what I can find out as it will be the end of the week. As soon as I am made aware of the fee's and certification I will post it.

Sorry I cannot be of more help at the moment. But have no doubt that I will do as much as I can to find out. I hope this will make the process easier for others.

I dont think these organisations have had instructions yet on how to proceed with this.. I have sent several emails to the Arab-British Chamber of Commerce and had no reply. If by chance I do, i will post. Please keep us informed Seaview, thanks for the information.

[onenomad]

Hello. I did receive a call on Monday but they just told me that they still did not know what price I would be charged at and what my documents are to be 'certified' as. I was told that my documents would be returned to me by the end of the week (have been told this before!) So I did not think there was any point posting until I knew for definite.

I did check my bank account today and neither of the cheques I had to leave have been put through my account.

I will call myself tomorrow to see what I can find out as it will be the end of the week. As soon as I am made aware of the fee's and certification I will post it.

Sorry I cannot be of more help at the moment. But have no doubt that I will do as much as I can to find out. I hope this will make the process easier for others.

Cheers mate I look forward to your updates, Hope it all goes through ok for ya

[Seaview]

Hello Everybody,

Part 1.

I have now finally got my documents back and am able to explain the entire process and a couple of alternative processes if you encounter any problems along the way. First I will explain the process, and then I will add the alternatives at the end. This is quite long, if it doesn’t make sense, then please leave any questions and I will try and answer them more clearly.

Starting after you have had your documents notarized locally.

First you need to find your nearest ‘Local Chamber of Commerce’ which is an ‘Agent’ for the Arab/British Chamber of Commerce. Not all Chamber of Commerce’s are Agents for the Main Branch which maybe where some people have been encountering problems.

Below is a list of all the Counties which have an ‘Agent’ at the ‘Local Chamber of Commerce for the main Arab/British Chamber of Commerce.

Aberdeen Liverpool
Bedfordshire London
Birmingham Manchester
Black Country Medway
Bradford Mid-Yorkshire
Bristol Northampton
Cambridge Northern Ireland
Cardiff North Staffordshire
Coventry Nottingham
Dundee Portsmouth
Dorset Preston
Edinburgh Thames Valley
Essex Tyne & Wear
Glasgow Sheffield
Hertfordshire Southampton
Hull Suffolk
Leicester Sussex

If you do not live in any of the above Counties then find the nearest County on that list and contact that ‘Local Business Chamber of Commerce’.

[Seaview]

Part 2.

Once you have established your local ‘Agent’ present yourself there with your Drivers Licence and Passport for identification – they will need to see it.

Explain that you wish to do business in Iraq and that you need your (already) notarized documents certified.

They will ask you to fill in a ‘Formal Undertaking’ for their records. This is a form for your name, address, etc.

They will choose a Category for Certification and price for you – this is where there can be some confusion. My documents were ‘categorized’ as ‘Other Documents’ and sent as a ‘Letter of Identification’.

The price for this was as follows :-

£28.95 Arab Certification fee for choice ‘Other Documents’.
£ 2.00 Arab Levy
£30.95 + VAT
£36.36 I was charged £36.02 because it was added up incorrectly.

£27.00 Foreign Office fee – No VAT included.
£18.30 Main Arab/British Chamber of Commerce fee to send and process.
+ VAT on the £18.30 fee.
£48.50 TOTAL

£3.00 Added per page by the Iraq Embassy to certify.

£36.36
£48.50
£ 3.00
£87.86 COMPLETE TOTAL – although I paid £87.52?

The £87.86 fee is presented at this time to your local Agent and is banked locally.

Once the ‘Formal Undertaking has been filled in and your ID and Cheque has been presented your document will be ‘stamped and ‘certified’ at your Local Chamber of Commerce.

The Local Agents for the Chamber of Commerce then have a ‘Bag’ which is couriered up to London everyday to the Main Branch and sent c/o a Mr T or Mrs R in the ‘Trade Services’ Department. (PM me for names incase your local Agent does not know – although they probably will).

Once they reach the Main Arab Chamber of Commerce they are again ‘stamped’ and ‘Certified’ at that Branch they then attach a piece of paper called an ‘Apostille’ and the documents are then sent to the ‘Foreign Office’. The Foreign Office will ‘stamp’ and then sign the ‘Apostille’ and then forward it to the Iraq Embassy who will ‘stamp’ and ‘sign’ the back of the ‘Apostille’. Your document is then sent back to the Main Arab/British Chamber of Commerce who will then send it back to your local Branch – for you to collect or have sent on to yourself. You will also be presented with an Invoice with your fee structure with it.

Alternative 1. If you encounter a problem with your local ‘Agent’. I have been passed the name and address of a Company that will send your documents to be processed but they will charge about £300.00. PM me for details.

Alternative 2. At the Local Chamber of Commerce where the process was started for me the person dealing with my documents has very kindly offered to process this for anyone else who is having problems trying to contact their ‘Agent’ at their ‘Local Chamber of Commerce’. This person will send you the ‘formal undertaking’ that you need to fill in and return. However they still need to see your original Passport and Drivers Licence and so these would need to be presented in person or posted (if you are willing).

I somewhat ‘lucked out’ at my Local Chamber of Commerce because the person who dealt with my docs has bought ‘Iraqi Currency’ and is quite aware of the potential etc, so was not surprised when I turned up and knew the people at the Arab/British in London etc. I explained to this person the problems others’ are having and this person said they would be happy to help. Again this is through ‘pm’ only and only as a last resort. This person believed I am the first individual to have the documents processed in the UK! Although Company Certification is going smoothly.

I hope this makes sense and please leave any questions if you need any further help.

[Dinar Duchess]

Part 2.

Once you have established your local ‘Agent’ present yourself there with your Drivers Licence and Passport for identification – they will need to see it.

Explain that you wish to do business in Iraq and that you need your (already) notarized documents certified.

They will ask you to fill in a ‘Formal Undertaking’ for their records. This is a form for your name, address, etc.

They will choose a Category for Certification and price for you – this is where there can be some confusion. My documents were ‘categorized’ as ‘Other Documents’ and sent as a ‘Letter of Identification’.

The price for this was as follows :-

£28.95 Arab Certification fee for choice ‘Other Documents’.
£ 2.00 Arab Levy
£30.95 + VAT
£36.36 I was charged £36.02 because it was added up incorrectly.

£27.00 Foreign Office fee – No VAT included.
£18.30 Main Arab/British Chamber of Commerce fee to send and process.
+ VAT on the £18.30 fee.
£48.50 TOTAL

£3.00 Added per page by the Iraq Embassy to certify.

£36.36
£48.50
£ 3.00
£87.86 COMPLETE TOTAL – although I paid £87.52?

The £87.86 fee is presented at this time to your local Agent and is banked locally.

Once the ‘Formal Undertaking has been filled in and your ID and Cheque has been presented your document will be ‘stamped and ‘certified’ at your Local Chamber of Commerce.

The Local Agents for the Chamber of Commerce then have a ‘Bag’ which is couriered up to London everyday to the Main Branch and sent c/o a Mr T or Mrs R in the ‘Trade Services’ Department. (PM me for names incase your local Agent does not know – although they probably will).

Once they reach the Main Arab Chamber of Commerce they are again ‘stamped’ and ‘Certified’ at that Branch they then attach a piece of paper called an ‘Apostille’ and the documents are then sent to the ‘Foreign Office’. The Foreign Office will ‘stamp’ and then sign the ‘Apostille’ and then forward it to the Iraq Embassy who will ‘stamp’ and ‘sign’ the back of the ‘Apostille’. Your document is then sent back to the Main Arab/British Chamber of Commerce who will then send it back to your local Branch – for you to collect or have sent on to yourself. You will also be presented with an Invoice with your fee structure with it.

Alternative 1. If you encounter a problem with your local ‘Agent’. I have been passed the name and address of a Company that will send your documents to be processed but they will charge about £300.00. PM me for details.

Alternative 2. At the Local Chamber of Commerce where the process was started for me the person dealing with my documents has very kindly offered to process this for anyone else who is having problems trying to contact their ‘Agent’ at their ‘Local Chamber of Commerce’. This person will send you the ‘formal undertaking’ that you need to fill in and return. However they still need to see your original Passport and Drivers Licence and so these would need to be presented in person or posted (if you are willing).

I somewhat ‘lucked out’ at my Local Chamber of Commerce because the person who dealt with my docs has bought ‘Iraqi Currency’ and is quite aware of the potential etc, so was not surprised when I turned up and knew the people at the Arab/British in London etc. I explained to this person the problems others’ are having and this person said they would be happy to help. Again this is through ‘pm’ only and only as a last resort. This person believed I am the first individual to have the documents processed in the UK! Although Company Certification is going smoothly.

I hope this makes sense and please leave any questions if you need any further help.

Thank you Seaview...I really appreciate your help. I will contact the Dorset Office in the next couple of days and get things moving... :wave:

[Virenque]

Anyone here has experience with Iraqi Embassy in Austria and The Austro Arab Chamber of Commerce? That`s the nearest I have while my country doesn`t have anything Iraqi. But it probably won`t be a problem because my country is in EU as well as Austria.

But yes, it`s quite a procedure and quite a cost but if we beleive we`ll earn something there it isn`t such a problem..

[Virenque]

I can report now how is the situation in Austria if anyone else will search for any information. Situation is not good at all. I called to Iraqi Embassy in Vienna and they said that they do not have any idea what I need. Only thing they know about are visas and passports for Iraq. Their english is also not good. They said that someone will call me back but he didn`t then. Then I called Austro-Arab Chamber of Commerce and their english was very good. They were very polite and understood what I need. They said that I need to notarize my documents at a local notary, then notarize at our Ministry for Foreign Affairs and then take documents to Iraqi Embassy in Vienna. Personaly! That means 400 km for me and no guarantee that Iraqi Embassy will know what to do that time. So that is probably the end for my investment in Iraq before it accualy started..:crying2:Yeah, I`m pissed off...:headbang:

[Virenque]

Things are better today! I called to Iraqi Embassy in Warsaw, Poland and they immediately understood me, they know what I need and I can send them notarized documents.

So I recommend Polish Embassy to every european, whose country doesn`t have an Iraqi Embassy.:happy64:

[skismenos_78]

Hi guys is anyone out there that can help a new person out with buying stock on the isx. I am completely lost. I live in Canada I have phone our embassy but no one has a clue and refuse to help me saying that they don't know what I am talking about. One lady that answered asked me what is the isx? I have been reading these threads for a while now and finally have left a message becuase I am totally lost now. So far I have picked up my dinar and sent it Fed-Ex to Warka. So what I am asking is if anyone can help me out Maybe steer me in the right direction or can give me a step by step lesson on how I should send things in to Mr.I. This would be greatly appeciated. Good luck to everyone and let's see this baby R.V. I have been @ this for abou 4-5 months and everyday I read new posts I get butterflies.

Good luck to all of you

[NewIraqiDinar]

Bump for any who may be looking...

[geowhiz]

Bump for any who may be looking...


A classic thread "chaka" full of outstanding information including templates. Worth another bump.

[NewIraqiDinar]

Hey Skis, what ever happened? Did you get help figuring it out? Been a year.
Hi guys is anyone out there that can help a new person out with buying stock on the isx. I am completely lost. I live in Canada I have phone our embassy but no one has a clue and refuse to help me saying that they don't know what I am talking about. One lady that answered asked me what is the isx? I have been reading these threads for a while now and finally have left a message becuase I am totally lost now. So far I have picked up my dinar and sent it Fed-Ex to Warka. So what I am asking is if anyone can help me out Maybe steer me in the right direction or can give me a step by step lesson on how I should send things in to Mr.I. This would be greatly appeciated. Good luck to everyone and let's see this baby R.V. I have been @ this for abou 4-5 months and everyday I read new posts I get butterflies.

Good luck to all of you

[Dinar"Di]

I have a friend who wants to buy stock threw Warka now....

After getting all this info and having it notarized...where does he send it to have it stamped where in the USA ...anyone ??...and then after he gets it back does he send it to Warka ...???

Man ! am I glad I got in when it was easy !!!

[birder]

I'm having trouble too. Sent a completed 'Proxy' form off this web site to Mr I and had a response back saying I needed a load of documents certified. Does anyone have an 'idiots guide' as to what is now needed for new investors?
Thanks

[Rodrigo]

Hello Every one. I live in Ecuador, we do not have a Iraq Embassy nor Conulate in my country, do you have any idea of how to proceed in order to have the required documents certified. I really want to buy some stock in the ISX.

[Virenque]

Hi there. If anybody from any of the slavic countries is wondering at which embassy to turn at as not every country has an Iraqi embassy, I can strongly recommend you the Iraqi Embassy in Warsaw, Poland. They are helpfull and ready to cooperate.:smile:

[dinar@8]

Can anyone please confirm which documents need to be notorised and then certified?