Hypocrisy has a Human Price on the Streets of Baghdad

[joanc1963]

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/hypocrisy_has_a_human_price_on.html
http://www.americanthinker.com/rocco_dipippo/

"I have observed first-hand the effects of the Bush Administration's new Iraq security plan since it began two months ago. Street violence in Baghdad and surrounding areas has declined. Shops and markets once boarded up are reopening. Iraqi civilians are venturing out onto the streets again and living their lives with less fear of being persecuted, tortured, maimed or killed. To be sure, there is still plenty of terror and violence in Iraq, but since the "troop surge" began, it has lessened considerably."

"I ask Congressmen Kerry, Durbin, Murtha, Reid, Conyers, Kennedy, Speaker Pelosi, the rest of the Democratic leadership, the "social justice" crowd, the human rights groups, the UN leadership, the mainstream media and anyone else trumpeting concern for oppressed peoples, to put aside their pathological hatred of President Bush and their unfair criticisms of the US Military long enough to view the Iraq situation as a simple matter of human rights - as a battle between shockingly evil oppressors and the liberators of the oppressed."

"Please realize that if you Democrats get your early withdrawal, the torturers and murderers will control Iraq. And emboldened by that victory, and in possession of Iraq's substantial resources, it will only be a matter of time before those hunters of humans -- the beheaders, the torturers of women and children, the suicide bombers and the hyper-religious fanatics - bring death to your own cities and towns and streets."

[Okie]

Well said!! I spent 18 months in Iraq, in various places, and it always amazed me that the CNN news never matched what I was seeing at ground level.

Maybe one day the liberals will get it right....but I doubt it!!!!

[DrummerMan]

Well Said!

[Shau - Kenshin]

Oh, Come ON!!

Enough with the we hate tree huggers thing! This forum is supposed to be about Dinar speculation. Why is it that NO ONE wants to keep it there? talks about Dems or Reps and who is better/smarter/more patriotic is getting pretty tiresome.

BOTH sides are idiots at times and BOTH sides have good ideas.

[joanc1963]

Oh, Come ON!!

Enough with the we hate tree huggers thing! This forum is supposed to be about Dinar speculation. Why is it that NO ONE wants to keep it there? talks about Dems or Reps and who is better/smarter/more patriotic is getting pretty tiresome.

BOTH sides are idiots at times and BOTH sides have good ideas.

This sub forum is entitled "The US & Iraq" NOT "Dinar speculation"
And sitting on the fence never helps anyone. Remember, evil flourishes when good men do nothing.

This is our opinion. In our democracies we are free to express our opinion. Truth is, the left's embracement of political corectness could be the downfall of us all. The silent majority would want to speak up - and soon.

[Whats_UP]

This forum is supposed to be about Dinar speculation




And you really think the US policies twords Iraq doesn't effect this?

[Okie]

Oh, Come ON!!

Enough with the we hate tree huggers thing! This forum is supposed to be about Dinar speculation. Why is it that NO ONE wants to keep it there? talks about Dems or Reps and who is better/smarter/more patriotic is getting pretty tiresome.

BOTH sides are idiots at times and BOTH sides have good ideas.


This thread is about hypocrisy of the liberals.....and you have to admit.....they're world wide leaders in that department!

It not only affects Iraq but every citizen in the US!

BTW.....Al Gore sucks and he really didn't invent the internet.

[RotaryRevn]

Oh, Come ON!!

Enough with the we hate tree huggers thing! This forum is supposed to be about Dinar speculation. Why is it that NO ONE wants to keep it there? talks about Dems or Reps and who is better/smarter/more patriotic is getting pretty tiresome.

BOTH sides are idiots at times and BOTH sides have good ideas.

The Dems would rather loose a war and give up our nation to terrorist than lose a campain. It's sad sad thing. :crying:

[BigPapaPump]

Oh, Come ON!!

Enough with the we hate tree huggers thing! This forum is supposed to be about Dinar speculation. Why is it that NO ONE wants to keep it there? talks about Dems or Reps and who is better/smarter/more patriotic is getting pretty tiresome.

BOTH sides are idiots at times and BOTH sides have good ideas.
Exactly right....I think that the security has helped, but give the people a reason to lay down the arms and get jobs......HELLO MONEY

[Shau - Kenshin]

This thread is about hypocrisy of the liberals.....and you have to admit.....they're world wide leaders in that department!

It not only affects Iraq but every citizen in the US!

BTW.....Al Gore sucks and he really didn't invent the internet.


First,

Al was an idiot for making that statment about the internet. WTH man?!

Second,

"Evil only excists when good men do nothing" is one of my favorite phrases, and how I chose to live. You cant always be a bystander. Some times, when the situation calls for it, you've got to get yer hands dirty. We all know this. And I think its really cool that we see eye to eye on that!

Third,
Our policies on Iraq are the very thing that is going to make ALL of us wealthy! BELIEVE IT! Its like I said to another on this forum:

" Clinton had me happy and grinning at 23 years old making $75K with no kids, Bush is about to make a few of us millionars, who do you think I am more fiscally pleased with?! " :cool: Kinda goes without saying.


Forth,
And chaffing on the fence hurts! I make my choices on the ISSUES not down party lines! Abortion : KILLS KIDS! Firm believer in that, but as a guy, I have no say if my wife was pregnent and without me knowing aborted my kid. If she did and I KNEW, oh HELL NAW!! FICAL STORM, and this time, its for REAL!
But one cannot on one hand say, save the childs life and leave it to the parent who DOES NOT WANT the child to love it, or put them up for adoption. Have you any idea WHAT goes on in that system. How many rapes, molestations, and how that affects a child, not to mention what that child would grow up to become?! Now, dont get it twisted here buds, I am not saying its ok to abort the kid, what I am saying is there are MANY details that need to be considered before we do away with the law altogether. How many good christian southern girls had abortions inthe 60's because they got knocked up by some dude, or worse yet :rolleyes: (Geez I cant believe I'm actually gonna say this but) by some BLACK dude!? In that era, even the most conservative NEO NUT job is all for the abortion. Hell, her dad drove her to the 'underground' clinic who does such things with a degree of confidence as this could be damaging information at the country club. I'm sure you get my point but, who is to say so much has changed now? :no: Sad really. Of that, we ALL can agree. And I think this overly too scared to talk or "Offend" people is just a bit NUTS. Imus, give me a break. Black folks have been saying that about each other for YEARS, but some white dude does it and its WRONG?! :rolleyes: Yeah friggen RIGHT! If black folks stopped using the term, guess what, so would everyone else. I mean, damn guys they are sayin the "N" word in the Ukraine like its a term of endearment! Imus just said what he felt, wrong as it may have been, he is living in america, and last I checked it was still a place of free speach. Now had he said that on a street corner in Oakland CA, or NE in DC, he might of got his lil @$$ whooped :lmao: !! I'm just gonna call it for what it is!

Fifth... uh... FIF,
While they are acting like a bunch of near sighted twits, they know damned well there is no leaving Iraq, at least not now. We broke it open, now we have to fix it. Leaving now would and in my opinion, will cause a power vacume that Sadr might feel inclined to fill. NO ONE wants to risk that. Saying they are willing to let our security go to the terrorists is just silly talk, pumped out by right wing talk shows. YOU"RE not gonna let that happen. I'm not gonna let that happen. The way to get rid of a terrorist is very simple. While my thoughts arent the complete solution, it could reduce the amount of how many the reall @$$holes could recruit, killing them is not enough. check it out!

Make them part of the middle class of that nations ecomomy. A man does not have time or will even think about that crap if he has to do a midterm in Cell regenorative properties of human tissue, or if he has a family to take care of. We are the proof of that, because of a stable nation.

Give him a wife, a few kids, stable well paying job, a house, let him worship and give him a sence of personal achievment. He cant do killings because those are someone elses kids whom he'd be killing. He cant kill himself, because his kids need a dad and he loves his wife. Who's gonna cut the grass and take out the trash? He becomes like you or me. But those who have not a damned thing to their names accept the need to eat, have nothing to loose. And if you tell him I will give your family $25K in USD if you do this job, well, we have seen the results.

We HAVE to stay there. I can agree that if the Dems are really serious about this pull out, they make matters MUCH WORSE. Keep in mind that the game of politics is just that, politics. But if they are serios. Crap, Get your guns/Armor ready. When this revals by land outside the country, cause it would get very dangerous HERE!

As I stated, I review the issues, as you can see and make my decisions after some thought regardless of who is in/out of office.

[mike55]

not too bad shau after your first post. The forum has many rooms......
by the way ....i agree with quite a bit of your rhetoric

[ToBeRich]

Imus, give me a break. Quote by Shau-Kenshin


On the Imus thing and the press, Glenn Beck brought up the point last night that had Imus said what he said on this last Monday(Virginia Tech Tragedy) instead of a week ago, he would still have his job as the press would have ignored his lack of political correctness due to the massacre at V. Tech. A fine example of how the press picks and chooses what we see and hear. 1 main story at a time and 1 side to that story(example: Iraq and supposedly lack of progress). If they do say something good about Iraq, it is followed by paragraphs and paragraphs of everything that has gone wrong.

[rykpa]

Fact is that the DEMs (tree-hugging, Libidiot, lockstep leftist/Stalinists) are hurting the chances for us to make money with this venture.

More importantly, this entirely short-sighted, self-serving and ludicrous action on the part of the Left is deleterious for the livelihoods of Iraqis and the security of the world, but that is really a subject for another board.

Bottom line = DEMs are an enemy of our common object of interest here - the NID. They along with al Qaeda and Sadr want the time line surrender assurance.

[rykpa]

An interesting thing that I heard Rush say today was that the VA Tech murderer did not send his advertising materials / manifesto to the EIB Network. Why? Because talk radio would not have given air to a criminal as the Lame Stream Press has.

[joanc1963]

Fact is that the DEMs (tree-hugging, Libidiot, lockstep leftist/Stalinists) are hurting the chances for us to make money with this venture.

More importantly, this entirely short-sighted, self-serving and ludicrous action on the part of the Left is deleterious for the livelihoods of Iraqis and the security of the world, but that is really a subject for another board.

Bottom line = DEMs are an enemy of our common object of interest here - the NID. They along with al Qaeda and Sadr want the time line surrender assurance.


http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=6882
It's from the Republicans website but, even though these are
snippets from the article, there are enough straight forward facts in it to
feed the starving in Africa!! The actual article is only available to
subscribers of the WSJ.



Editorial
>April 6, 2007
>
>Democrats took Congress last fall in part by opposing the war in Iraq,
>but it is becoming clear that they view their election as a mandate for
>something far more ambitious ...
>
>[S]peaker Nancy Pelosi made her now famous sojourn to Syria, donning a
>head scarf and advertising that she was conducting shuttle diplomacy
>between Jerusalem and Damascus. ... [House Foreign Affairs Chairman Tom
>Lantos declared] that, "We have an alternative Democratic foreign
>policy. I view
>my job as beginning with restoring overseas credibility and respect for
>the
>United States." ...
>
>[R]arely in U.S. history have Congressional leaders sought to conduct
>their own independent diplomacy, with the Speaker acting as a Prime
>Minister traveling with a Secretary of State in the person of Mr.
>Lantos. ...
>
>What was Ms. Pelosi hoping to accomplish, other than embarrassing
>President Bush? "We were very pleased with reassurances we received
>from the president that he was ready to resume the peace process," she
>told reporters after meeting with dictator Bashar Assad. "We expressed
>our interest in using our good offices in promoting peace between
>Israel and
>
>Syria."
>
>She purported to convey a message from Israel's Ehud Olmert expressing
>similar interest in "the peace process," except that the Israeli Prime
>Minister felt obliged to issue a clarification noting that Ms. Pelosi
>had got the message wrong. Israel hadn't changed its policy, which is
>that it
>will negotiate only when Mr. Assad repudiates his support for terrorism
>and
>stops trying to dominate Lebanon. As a shuttle diplomat, Ms. Pelosi
>needs
>some practice. ...
>
>This is the same Syrian regime that has facilitated the movement of
>money and insurgents to kill Americans in Iraq; that has been
>implicated by a U.N. probe in the murder of former Lebanese Prime
>Minister Rafik Hariri;
>
>and that has snubbed any number of U.S. overtures since the fall of
>Saddam Hussein in 2003. ...
>
>With her trip, Ms. Pelosi has now reassured the Syrian strongman that
>Mr. Bush lacks the domestic support to impose any further pressure on
>his country. She has also made it less likely that Mr. Assad will
>cooperate with the Hariri probe, or assist the Iraqi government in
>defeating Baathist
>and al Qaeda terrorists. ...
>
>Back in Washington, Harry Reid says his response to Mr. Bush's certain
>veto of his Iraq spending bill will be to escalate. He now supports
>cutting off
>funds and beginning an immediate withdrawal, even as General David
>Petraeus's surge in Baghdad unfolds and shows signs of promise. ...
>
>So this is Democratic foreign policy: Assure our enemies that they can
>ignore a President who still has 21 months to serve ...
>
>Once we leave Iraq, America's enemies will still reside in the Mideast;
>and they will be stronger if we leave behind a failed government and
>bloodbath
>in Iraq. ... [B]y reverting to their Vietnam message of retreat and by
>blaming Mr. Bush for all the world's ills, Democrats on Capitol Hill may
>
>once again convince voters that they can't be trusted with the White
>House in a dangerous world.