View Full Version : Did The Dong and Dinar RV????
darock0116
04-20-2007, 08:28 PM
I know I am putting my butt on the line with this one, but I wanted everyone to see this for them self!!!! We need everyones input on this one!!! I am not saying it RV'd, nor am spreading a rumor. OK this is what I found here goes:
We have been hearing , really today, but I have heard of it for about a week now, that there is a possibility of the Dong RV. Also with all the news with the dinar, the potential of RV anytime IMO. With that said take a look at this!!!!
Dong
This site is saying that the dong is: 1USD=16VND Exchange Rate=.0625
Click here to see the rate (take a look a the time it is current)!!!! This chart is USD=VND
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=VND&amount=1
Now if you flip the exchange from VND to USD this is what you get:
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=VND&c2=USD&s1=VND&s2=USD
Its Blank!!!!!
We have heard by several different people that the dong would RV this weekend, guys this website is from england, it is Saturday already, it would make sense to RV on the weekend!!!!!
Dinar
This site is saying that the dinar is 1 to 1: 1USD=1IQD Exchange Rate=1.00
Click here to see the rate (take a look at the time it is current) USD=IQD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=IQD&amount=1
Now take a look here when you flip the exchange from IQD=USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=IQD&c2=USD&s1=IQD&s2=USD
You get the real rate!!!!
Now we have been hearing 1 to 1 or .98 euros, something is going on IMO!!!!
DISCLAIMER 1: This was strange to me, so I went and converted every currency on there exchange, guess what I found all the exchange rates were accurate, except the Dong and the Dinar. Here are two examples below!!! Check for yourself, its all right there!!!!
Kuwait Dinar
USD=KWD Exchange rate is 1USD = .29038KWD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=KWD&s1=USD&s2=KWD
KWD=USD Exchange rate is 1KWD = 3.47307USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=KWD&c2=USD&s1=KWD&s2=USD
Euro
USD=EUR Exchange Rate is 1USD = .77716EUR
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=EUR&s1=USD&s2=EUR
EUR=USD Exchange Rate is 1EUR = 1.28704USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=EUR&c2=USD&s1=EUR&s2=USD
OK almost done!!! I know this alot take in all at once, but something doesn't sound right!!! This is a major site, kind like the AP. They are located in the major financial Dist. in London!!!!! It would make since to RV both at the same time, so people don't double dip!!! Double dip is where you would take the profits from the dong, and purchase more dinar then hope for a RV. OK on that note let the posts began!!!
DISCLAIMER 2: This is not a rumor, it is speculation. This is info that I have found!!! Take a look for yourself and make a educated judgment for yourself, but in any way I am saying it did RV. The questions is, did it RV!!! Keep the bashing to a minimum and lets work on this together to see if this could be it!!!!! :happy64: :happy64: :happy64: :happy64:
Here is the site link:
http://www.wnnetwork.com/
then click on currency Market, then down on the right is the currency converter!!!!!!
jsimmy
04-20-2007, 08:32 PM
I'm coming to the same conclusion as you and I think I just reflexively shat myself!!!!
In your own spelling challenged honor rock....
This could be HUGH folks!!!!:happy64: :happy64: :happy64: :happy64:
Goes4ever
04-20-2007, 08:32 PM
yes I saw this on the other forum........ quite strange
Howler
04-20-2007, 08:37 PM
We can hope! Rock you are allways digging! And I for one appreciate it.
I could really go for a good "fishing trip" to Costa Rica right now!!!!!!!!
oldskiier
04-20-2007, 08:44 PM
Countryhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.giftohttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifIraqi Dinar (IQD)US Dollar (USD)Exchange Rate10.000825602:490.0008256
This is off the same site guys !!!
Been this way for 2 years now ....same old crap !!! nothing new here !!!
COACH JACK
04-20-2007, 08:46 PM
Thanks again, Rock. This could be it!!
darock0116
04-20-2007, 08:48 PM
Take a look at BOA Website!!
http://www.bankofamerica.com/foreigncurrency/index.cfm?state=IT#ratebox
LethalTKD
04-20-2007, 08:50 PM
Take a look at BOA Website!!
http://www.bankofamerica.com/foreigncurrency/index.cfm?state=IT#ratebox
Not seeing Iraq on that drop down.
calstar
04-20-2007, 08:50 PM
NOTHING NEW.....:rolleye03
Kurt3628
04-20-2007, 08:51 PM
Take a look at BOA Website!!
http://www.bankofamerica.com/foreigncurrency/index.cfm?state=IT#ratebox
Rock, what are you trying to show us here. I went to the site and did not see the dinar
LethalTKD
04-20-2007, 08:52 PM
Oweee! My emtions!!!:crying:
oldskiier
04-20-2007, 08:53 PM
Take a look at BOA Website!!
http://www.bankofamerica.com/foreigncurrency/index.cfm?state=IT#ratebox
Rock I think you have had one to many !!!!....LOL Look at what on the BoA .....????
LethalTKD
04-20-2007, 08:56 PM
Rock I think you have had one to many !!!!....LOL Look at what on the BoA .....????
Now, now Skiier...let the man tell us. Everyone together now "We appreciate your work Rock". There. Now isn't that better? :drunk:
twodos
04-20-2007, 08:56 PM
Hey, I checked out the site/converter..........it appears that an RV has happened with both the Dong & Dinar!! Sure hope its correct....Thanks DaRock for all your information that you put out.:happy64::happy64:
Paniolo808
04-20-2007, 08:56 PM
im noticing that every other currency has a rate except Vietnam....???
Wolverine
04-20-2007, 08:57 PM
I don't know about the dinar but as of right now, central standard time, I can't even give my dong away:eek:
darock0116
04-20-2007, 08:57 PM
Not seeing Iraq on that drop down.
Rock, what are you trying to show us here. I went to the site and did not see the dinar
BOA doesnt trade in the dinar, only the dong!!!!! They dont show an exchange rate!!! Here is what is says down below!!! BOA Started selling the dong two days ago. All orders that were placed yesterday, were cancelled. How do I know this, I placed several orders!!! There saying that they ran out, how does one of the largest banks that trade in foreign currency run out in a day????? BOA doesnt trade in currency that are not traded international thst why they dont trade in the dinar, that is what they told me!!!! Remember when Step. was on here, everybody got excited that the dinar was going to be traded by the BOA, but it never happened!!! But the dong is now!!!!
Bank of America is unable to provide a rate for this currency at this time. For further information about this currency, please contact a Bank of America Foreign Currency Representative at 1.888.660.0130, 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. Pacific Time, Monday through Friday; and 6 a.m. to 2 p.m. Pacific Time on Saturday.
http://www.bankofamerica.com/x.gif
Longbond
04-20-2007, 08:58 PM
It was a short term glitch. It has been corrected.
BBbucks
04-20-2007, 08:58 PM
Take a look at BOA Website!!
http://www.bankofamerica.com/foreigncurrency/index.cfm?state=IT#ratebox
I saw this (see below) in regards to the Dong, when trying to get their exchange rate. I didn't the Dinar listed at all. Is this new or was this always the way it was? :confused:
"Bank of America is unable to provide a rate for this currency at this time. For further information about this currency, please contact a Bank of America Foreign Currency Representative at 1.888.xxx.xxxx, 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. Pacific Time, Monday through Friday; and 6 a.m. to 2 p.m. Pacific Time on Saturday."
Secret Key
04-20-2007, 09:04 PM
Congrats bro. I just got off the phone with Strongtower.
He gave me all the info but Neno called and he had to go.
Give me a call tonight or in the AM.
Later.
Darock,
Went to your link regarding the exchange rate of The IQD to USD now
shows, .0008256. As information, this must have been updating when
you checked. In closing, thank you for your diligence and insight regarding this investment!!! We are almost there!!
Rjp
darock0116
04-20-2007, 09:06 PM
Congrats bro. I just got off the phone with Strongtower.
He gave me all the info but Neno called and he had to go.
Give me a call tonight or in the AM.
Later.
Glad to see you back!!!!!!:happy64:
Congrats bro. I just got off the phone with Strongtower.
He gave me all the info but Neno called and he had to go.
Give me a call tonight or in the AM.
Later.
What does this mean?
Secret Key
04-20-2007, 09:07 PM
Glad to see you back!!!!!!:happy64:
Not for long!~ ;)
Wolverine
04-20-2007, 09:08 PM
What does this mean?
NO DOUBT..... what he said
emil schuffhausen
04-20-2007, 09:08 PM
Bloomberg still listing 1,000,000 VND = $62 USD :cool:
cowpoke
04-20-2007, 09:09 PM
I posted this to the rumor thread but it is still under review.
It was a RUMOR passed to me.
What do you guy's think? I edited out name's to protect Identity.
THIS IS NOT FROM ME BUT TOLD TO ME!
The Dong can now be purchaced from BOA if you got to BOA online and at the banks.
Also he heard that if the HCL is not passed this week in Dubai by the Iraqi parliment meeting there that Vietnam will reval the Dong next week on its own.
Word is that the IMF and World Bank wanted the DONG and Dinar to reval on the same day but Vietnam will wait no longer.
LethalTKD
04-20-2007, 09:09 PM
Hmm. I dont know what to think..
Roninvestor
04-20-2007, 09:09 PM
SK are you going to share with us the latest?? We would appreciate it.
finishmaster1
04-20-2007, 09:10 PM
holdin out info ?
Teslyn
04-20-2007, 09:11 PM
ROFL.
I was almost ready to take this thread seriously.
And then the Secret Society of Dinar Misinformation reared its head.
Crosslakeboy
04-20-2007, 09:14 PM
Friday night and somebody's had to many dong (bong) hits.
yunowu
04-20-2007, 09:17 PM
Geez, Rock, When I went the site that you directed, I almost pooped in my pants !! God I hope you are right !!!!
oldskiier
04-20-2007, 09:19 PM
Countryhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.giftohttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifIraqi Dinar (IQD)US Dollar (USD)Exchange Rate10.000825602:490.0008256
This is off the same site guys !!!
Been this way for 2 years now ....same old crap !!! nothing new here !!!
It didn't RV !!!! Sorry !!...and it's not going to !!!:(
lndmn_01
04-20-2007, 09:30 PM
Countryhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.giftohttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifIraqi Dinar (IQD)US Dollar (USD)Exchange Rate10.000825602:490.0008256
This is off the same site guys !!!
Been this way for 2 years now ....same old crap !!! nothing new here !!!
It didn't RV !!!! Sorry !!...and it's not going to !!!:(
You're right!!! sell now before the lop and reprint!!!
GIBBO
04-20-2007, 09:32 PM
Australian Dollar (AUD)Iraqi Dinar (IQD)Exchange Rate1103:391
geowhiz
04-20-2007, 09:34 PM
Australian Dollar (AUD)Iraqi Dinar (IQD)Exchange Rate1103:391
Damn Aussies, had to ruin the fun.
Teslyn
04-20-2007, 09:35 PM
Bwahahahahahahahaha!
Ialdoboath
04-20-2007, 09:39 PM
It is 6:30 am in Iraq atm. I suppose we will know more on all this in a few hours when things open up. http://www.menafn.com follows the market rates even on weekends, so best to watch them I figure.
Secret Key
04-20-2007, 09:40 PM
ROFL.
I was almost ready to take this thread seriously.
And then the Secret Society of Dinar Misinformation reared its head.
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
WOW,what the heck hapened,very strange?People have to chill out,this will go down......I really hope people can handle it.
Teslyn
04-20-2007, 09:44 PM
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
Yeah like you and your team are batting 1000. :lmao:
Like I said, was actually willing to bite on this one. :cool:
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
Aw com'on.....I'll bet you guys got your secret code rings from the same place....Cracker Jack boxes!
Capt'n
04-20-2007, 09:46 PM
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
would like to get a hint at what you folks have between yourselves. I have been here for a while and have confidence in you and DaRock so if you could...please share at least a direction (PM me if you prefer).
Be Well,
The Good Capt'n
Wolverine
04-20-2007, 09:47 PM
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
:shhh:
He was whispering in my ear. He told me he was gay, thought you were cute, and asked me if we had any astroglide. I told him it was in the bathroom. Be strong, honey. I love you too!:shhh:
Gogovs
04-20-2007, 09:48 PM
Yeah like you and your team are batting 1000. :lmao:
Like I said, was actually willing to bite on this one. :cool:
They could be ... depends on how you look at it .....
top123
04-20-2007, 09:52 PM
ROFL.
I was almost ready to take this thread seriously.
And then the Secret Society of Dinar Misinformation reared its head.
LOL :lmao:
TOP
LethalTKD
04-20-2007, 09:58 PM
I will not leave out any possibilities. This is what makes speculation fun.
What does this mean?
It means I'm filthy rich, but only me of course. JK!...:D
DinarDummy
04-20-2007, 10:07 PM
They could be ... depends on how you look at it .....
Hahaha, I get it. History repeats itself. Again. And on Monday, the sheeple will say thanks for the info, you are great, we love you. Tell us what to do next.
Roninvestor
04-20-2007, 10:11 PM
Secret Key If You can't share it just keep it. SHUT
Secret Key
04-20-2007, 10:11 PM
I posted this to the rumor thread but it is still under review.
It was a RUMOR passed to me.
What do you guy's think? I edited out name's to protect Identity.
THIS IS NOT FROM ME BUT TOLD TO ME!
The Dong can now be purchaced from BOA if you got to BOA online and at the banks.
Also he heard that if the HCL is not passed this week in Dubai by the Iraqi parliment meeting there that Vietnam will reval the Dong next week on its own.
Word is that the IMF and World Bank wanted the DONG and Dinar to reval on the same day but Vietnam will wait no longer.
All of the above is true.
jjnolla
04-20-2007, 10:12 PM
Well, I checked the currency converter and, indeed, it states that US$1 = VND 16.
I checked with the Central Bank of Vietnam (or whatever name they have) and it states US$ 1= 16.119,00 [they use the "." like we use the comma in the USA when stating numbers]. It could be a mistake. However, I am not sure as they know the way to write numbers in the USA, so I doubt it is a mistake.
But the part of the IQD is even stranger. the currency converter quoted by DaRock states 1 USD = 1 IQD. It is right there. But, when you try to exchange IQD into USD it shows the exchange rate we know.
I am not sure what's going on, but in my opinion, something is definitely going on, people. I think that maybe, just maybe, the cat's out of the bag. Maybe this currency converter page in London has jumped ahead of time.
Well, time will tell. So, friends, don't quit your jobs...at least not yet .
Secret Key If You can't share it just keep it. SHUT
True,I don't care how crazy it is,I want to hear it!..You know this is fun! :happy64:
lchappell2
04-20-2007, 10:15 PM
Y do you want them to post. Anything that is not close to what you want to hear you bash.... I think the info is correct.... I wonder when it is in the papers WHO WILL BE MAN OR WOMEN TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND SAY SORRY.....
Y do you want them to post. Anything that is not close to what you want to hear you bash.... I think the info is correct.... I wonder when it is in the papers WHO WILL BE MAN OR WOMEN TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND SAY SORRY.....
If the dong and dinar R/V ed tonight,I would,I would say it,...I'm sorry,I really would...:)
fbrant
04-20-2007, 10:22 PM
Yes, very strange. But too many numbers are too strange for something to not be going on. A computer glitch? The 'new rate' jumped the clock on one side, but not the other? I'm very confused, but hopeful. Need to know before Monday so I know whether to tell the boss, "Take this job and shove it."
Well, I checked the currency converter and, indeed, it states that US$1 = VND 16.
I checked with the Central Bank of Vietnam (or whatever name they have) and it states US$ 1= 16.119,00 [they use the "." like we use the comma in the USA when stating numbers]. It could be a mistake. However, I am not sure as they know the way to write numbers in the USA, so I doubt it is a mistake.
But the part of the IQD is even stranger. the currency converter quoted by DaRock states 1 USD = 1 IQD. It is right there. But, when you try to exchange IQD into USD it shows the exchange rate we know.
I am not sure what's going on, but in my opinion, something is definitely going on, people. I think that maybe, just maybe, the cat's out of the bag. Maybe this currency converter page in London has jumped ahead of time.
Well, time will tell. So, friends, don't quit your jobs...at least not yet .
BILLYG
04-20-2007, 10:28 PM
Aw com'on.....I'll bet you guys got your secret code rings from the same place....Cracker Jack boxes!
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
GoodvEvil
04-20-2007, 10:31 PM
Now I know the real Rock has a snazzy little slogan, however I think a new one is needed.
Do you smell what darock is peddling or flushing?
Perhaps a poll is in order.
When does one lose credibility?LOL 10 false rumors? 100 rumors? The posts are purely to drive views, he has stated it in the past. Yet you guy worship someone who has no respect for your time? Comical.
What is more comical, is the dong RV'ing and the Dinar, at the same time. Wow I guess is an order, just WOW. Just when the last rumor when flush flush a new credible rumor surfaces, LOL
The dinar RV'ing aside from its rare 1 or 2 point RV, is just not going to happen. If you think your going to get rich overnight, your better off trying to pick the finishing order of 10 race horses in the same race. Your odds are better. Better yet your odds of betting all 10 would drop dead in the same race is has a better chance of winning than a huge double secret, super conspiracy RV.
3-5 years MINIMALLY to have this up to respectable levels. Maybe 7 plus.
darock0116
04-20-2007, 10:38 PM
What does this mean?
There might be a RV!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO DOUBT..... what he said
There might be a RV!!!!!!!!!!!!
I posted this to the rumor thread but it is still under review.
It was a RUMOR passed to me.
What do you guy's think? I edited out name's to protect Identity.
THIS IS NOT FROM ME BUT TOLD TO ME!
The Dong can now be purchaced from BOA if you got to BOA online and at the banks.
Also he heard that if the HCL is not passed this week in Dubai by the Iraqi parliment meeting there that Vietnam will reval the Dong next week on its own.
Word is that the IMF and World Bank wanted the DONG and Dinar to reval on the same day but Vietnam will wait no longer.
All is true, but you cant get the dong from BOA anymore!!!!!!!!!
Geez, Rock, When I went the site that you directed, I almost pooped in my pants !! God I hope you are right !!!!
I did the same also!!!!!!!!!!
Countryhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.giftohttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifIraqi Dinar (IQD)US Dollar (USD)Exchange Rate10.000825602:490.0008256
This is off the same site guys !!!
Been this way for 2 years now ....same old crap !!! nothing new here !!!
It didn't RV !!!! Sorry !!...and it's not going to !!!
If it has been that way for two years, then why are all the other currency rates updated with the correct rates???????
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~
Correct!!!!!!!!!! As I get the Ok, I will release the info!!!!!
Well, I checked the currency converter and, indeed, it states that US$1 = VND 16.
I checked with the Central Bank of Vietnam (or whatever name they have) and it states US$ 1= 16.119,00 [they use the "." like we use the comma in the USA when stating numbers]. It could be a mistake. However, I am not sure as they know the way to write numbers in the USA, so I doubt it is a mistake.
But the part of the IQD is even stranger. the currency converter quoted by DaRock states 1 USD = 1 IQD. It is right there. But, when you try to exchange IQD into USD it shows the exchange rate we know.
I am not sure what's going on, but in my opinion, something is definitely going on, people. I think that maybe, just maybe, the cat's out of the bag. Maybe this currency converter page in London has jumped ahead of time.
Well, time will tell. So, friends, don't quit your jobs...at least not yet .
You are correct, something is going down!!!!!:shhh:
Y do you want them to post. Anything that is not close to what you want to hear you bash.... I think the info is correct.... I wonder when it is in the papers WHO WILL BE MAN OR WOMEN TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND SAY SORRY.....
Thanks Chappell, you are correct, and you must believe because this is for real!!!!!!:D
buck74
04-20-2007, 10:41 PM
Even after this is posted twice some people don't get it. I continue to be amazed.
Countryhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.giftohttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://money.wn.com/images/spacer.gifIraqi Dinar (IQD)US Dollar (USD)Exchange Rate10.000825602:490.0008256
This is off the same site guys !!!
Been this way for 2 years now ....same old crap !!! nothing new here !!!
It didn't RV !!!! Sorry !!...and it's not going to !!!:(
Just google a differnt converter, there is no differnce on them
I just check five differnt ones and they are the SAME OLD RATES
Teslyn
04-20-2007, 10:49 PM
Even after this is posted twice some people don't get it. I continue to be amazed.
People don't want to get it.
ManDrone
04-20-2007, 10:53 PM
XE.COM does not show this wacky rate for the dong or the dinar. Stop engaging in chickenheadcutoffery. Go to news.google.com and type "vietnamese dong revalue" - don't you think someone, somewhere in the world would post a story about a revalue this big the moment it happened? All I see is one article for those scam artists at Sebastian River Holdings saying they picked up some dong along with their dinar investment.
BOA probably underestimated the demand for dong and so they are sold out for now.
Not that anyone reads level headed posts but I thought I'd try....
buddy19701972
04-20-2007, 10:55 PM
not sure what to think but i do know XE.Com is always late in changing their exchange rates...they must only update every hour or so because they sure arn't live qoutes
saramiller
04-20-2007, 10:59 PM
Saturday, April 21, 2007
1 US Dollar = 1,328.86 Iraqi Dinar
1 Iraqi Dinar (IQD) = 0.0007525 US Dollar (USD)
Interbank rate +/- 0%
This means:
You buy 1 US Dollar : 1,328.86 Iraqi Dinar
You sell 1 US Dollar : 1,211.29 Iraqi Dinar
You buy 1 Iraqi Dinar : 0.0007525 US Dollar
You sell 1 Iraqi Dinar : 0.0008256 US Dollar
Learn about the new Iraqi Dinar (http://www.oanda.com/site/currencies/new_iraqi_dinar.shtml)
Median price = 1,211.29 / 1,328.86 (bid/ask)
Minimum price = 1,209.20 / 1,326.70
Maximum price = 1,212.40 / 1,330.00
__________________________________________
1 US Dollar = 16,430.6 Vietnamese Dong
1 Vietnamese Dong (VND) = 0.00006086 US Dollar (USD)
Interbank rate +/- 0%
This means:
You buy 1 US Dollar : 16,430.6 Vietnamese Dong
You sell 1 US Dollar : 15,627.3 Vietnamese Dong
You buy 1 Vietnamese Dong : 0.00006086 US Dollar
You sell 1 Vietnamese Dong : 0.00006399 US Dollar
Median price = 15,627.3 / 16,430.6 (bid/ask)
Minimum price = 15,376.0 / 16,048.0
Maximum price = 16,040.0 / 16,670.0
http://www.oanda.com/convert/classic
9PM PST
Shame On Ya!!! MADE US GO TO THE BATHROOM! Just the computer burped....saw that same thing about a month ago...they said later just a burp...
BugmanIraq
04-20-2007, 11:30 PM
This is a test. This is only a test. Had this been an actual dinar reval (ugh!) rumor you would have been instructed secretly by a dinar pumper where to run to to pick up another gagillion.:lmao: :lmao:
williambedloe
04-20-2007, 11:41 PM
I too checked several currency converters and jack squat has changed...c'mon people...
PennStateMtnMan
04-20-2007, 11:43 PM
Congrats bro. I just got off the phone with Strongtower.
He gave me all the info but Neno called and he had to go.
Give me a call tonight or in the AM.
Later.
Post this crap on the other site, not here. We have a PM feature on this site for this type of crap. Since you are so tight, then you must have his personal email address that you could of sent him this. Your not impressing anybody and all you are doing is putting a bad spotlight on yourself since that Fab"ricating" 5 did this in the past.
dukedunde
04-20-2007, 11:44 PM
All of the above is true.
Glad to see you back, I don,t post much on this site but I see who the players are. My conection in DC. told me a week ago to lay some money down on the Dong for it would RV by the end of the month. This is only a rumer. Dukedunde
PennStateMtnMan
04-20-2007, 11:54 PM
Glad to see you back, I don,t post much on this site but I see who the players are. My conection in DC. told me a week ago to lay some money down on the Dong for it would RV by the end of the month. This is only a rumer. Dukedunde
Since it is only a rumor, post it in the rumor section.
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
Manipulation and collusion are wonderous things to behold!!!
cowpoke
04-20-2007, 11:58 PM
Since it is only a rumor, post it in the rumor section.
darock won't because it has to be screened first in the rumor threads.:D
nothing to see here folks...move it along please, don't block the sidewalks... Next train arrives in 20 minutes.....:drunk:
Now I would like to take this intermission time to quote our President George Bush:
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on...shame on you. It fool me. We can't get fooled again."
Now I can't stop laughing, thanks W you're the greatest...:lmao:
This concludes the intermission, you may now return to your program already in progress...
msmill
04-21-2007, 12:06 AM
Now I would like to take this intermission time to quote our President George Bush:
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on...shame on you. It fool me. We can't get fooled again."
Now I can't stop laughing, thanks W you're the greatest...:lmao:
TOO FUNNY!!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Ever see Presidential Speeches on Letterman? That's what this reminds me of!!!
TOO FUNNY!!! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Ever see Presidential Speeches on Letterman? That's what this reminds me of!!!
Yeah I catch Letterman's presidential speeches on rare occasions...:D
Jeffro
04-21-2007, 12:12 AM
Manipulation and collusion are wonderous things to behold!!!
You said the same thing LAST TIME! :D
dukedunde
04-21-2007, 12:17 AM
Now I would like to take this intermission time to quote our President George Bush:
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on...shame on you. It fool me. We can't get fooled again."
Now I can't stop laughing, thanks W you're the greatest...:lmao:
This concludes the intermission, you may now return to your program already in progress...
Thanks for all 4 PM,s Don,t need ya, don,t want ya. I will never post again.But< I get my information way before anyone on this form.
Thanks for all 4 PM,s Don,t need ya, don,t want ya. I will never post again.But< I get my information way before anyone on this form.
May I ask what the heck you're talking about, when did I PM you?...
You said the same thing LAST TIME! :D
Probably will have to say it 100 times so the Fab5 will get the picture. Coming back in drag must have been a real delight for them.....
waiting_game
04-21-2007, 01:01 AM
Yes, very strange. But too many numbers are too strange for something to not be going on. A computer glitch? The 'new rate' jumped the clock on one side, but not the other? I'm very confused, but hopeful. Need to know before Monday so I know whether to tell the boss, "Take this job and shove it."
Three days ago I told the boss that so an RV this weekend would be perfect. :lmao:
waiting_game
04-21-2007, 01:04 AM
Even after this is posted twice some people don't get it. I continue to be amazed.
He may have said it twice but i never saw his link and i don't see the same thing as he posted! Come on, if it's been this way for 2 years fine - just give me the link so i can see the same frickin thing!:rolleyes:
Riceboi
04-21-2007, 01:05 AM
Yeah I'm starting to get tired of the nonsense that is going on around here. This should also be in the rumor section.
H2OLover
04-21-2007, 01:16 AM
drama to the max .......
Gixxer
04-21-2007, 01:17 AM
I know I am putting my butt on the line with this one, but I wanted everyone to see this for them self!!!! We need everyones input on this one!!! I am not saying it RV'd, nor am spreading a rumor. OK this is what I found here goes:
We have been hearing , really today, but I have heard of it for about a week now, that there is a possibility of the Dong RV. (I consider that a rumor) Also with all the news with the dinar, the potential of RV anytime IMO. With that said take a look at this!!!!
Dong
This site is saying that the dong is: 1USD=16VND Exchange Rate=.0625
Click here to see the rate (take a look a the time it is current)!!!! This chart is USD=VND
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=VND&amount=1
Now if you flip the exchange from VND to USD this is what you get:
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=VND&c2=USD&s1=VND&s2=USD
Its Blank!!!!!
We have heard by several different people that the dong would RV this weekend, guys this website is from england, it is Saturday already, it would make sense to RV on the weekend!!!!!
Dinar
This site is saying that the dinar is 1 to 1: 1USD=1IQD Exchange Rate=1.00
Click here to see the rate (take a look at the time it is current) USD=IQD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=IQD&amount=1
Now take a look here when you flip the exchange from IQD=USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=IQD&c2=USD&s1=IQD&s2=USD
You get the real rate!!!!
Now we have been hearing 1 to 1 or .98 euros, something is going on IMO!!!!
DISCLAIMER 1: This was strange to me, so I went and converted every currency on there exchange, guess what I found all the exchange rates were accurate, except the Dong and the Dinar. Here are two examples below!!! Check for yourself, its all right there!!!!
Kuwait Dinar
USD=KWD Exchange rate is 1USD = .29038KWD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=KWD&s1=USD&s2=KWD
KWD=USD Exchange rate is 1KWD = 3.47307USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=KWD&c2=USD&s1=KWD&s2=USD
Euro
USD=EUR Exchange Rate is 1USD = .77716EUR
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=EUR&s1=USD&s2=EUR
EUR=USD Exchange Rate is 1EUR = 1.28704USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=EUR&c2=USD&s1=EUR&s2=USD
OK almost done!!! I know this alot take in all at once, but something doesn't sound right!!! This is a major site, kind like the AP. They are located in the major financial Dist. in London!!!!! It would make since to RV both at the same time, so people don't double dip!!! Double dip is where you would take the profits from the dong, and purchase more dinar then hope for a RV. OK on that note let the posts began!!!
DISCLAIMER 2: This is not a rumor, it is speculation. This is info that I have found!!! Take a look for yourself and make a educated judgment for yourself, but in any way I am saying it did RV. The questions is, did it RV!!! Keep the bashing to a minimum and lets work on this together to see if this could be it!!!!! :happy64: :happy64: :happy64: :happy64:
Here is the site link:
http://www.wnnetwork.com/
then click on currency Market, then down on the right is the currency converter!!!!!!
Rock I have highlighted a few questionable comments by you. Did you check any other currency websites to confirm the rate or only worked off of this one.
I have to say that I (we) appreciate all of the hard work and research that you do but you seem to be jumping the gun lately.
Jeffro
04-21-2007, 01:25 AM
Probably will have to say it 100 times so the Fab5 will get the picture. Coming back in drag must have been a real delight for them.....
There is definately a method to their madness. Took me a while to see it.:drunk:
jkid1027
04-21-2007, 01:45 AM
Hey all,
That site that Darock originally posted on this thread has a currency exchange rate of 1212 IQD to the USD. That is a good rate increase!! That is if it is legit. 1212 is approximately $825 US per million IQD. Keep climbing IQD.........
MarkOne
04-21-2007, 01:55 AM
As of this moment, all the 'Buy It Now' auctions for the Vietnam Dong are gone - with the exception being high-priced 'Buy It Now' store items which are pretty much double (or higher) what they were a few days ago (I picked up 2 million dong on Monday - still waiting for delivery:crying: ).
Blacize
04-21-2007, 01:56 AM
Damn, there's a lot of anamosity spreading around..It's Saturday. I have the choice to believe what has been posted or to disregard it as fantasy. Too early to make a decision either way. IIF'ers, if certain people disagree with this, just say that. There's absolutely no need to be callous and rude. Hell, rumors and speculation have driven this site in the absence of official news many times. OS, you must be having a hard time of it, man. You're usually more upbeat and positive. Of course, it's ridiculous to think anyone will be this way all of the time but c'mon folks, take it with a grain of salt and keep it moving!! Reval or no, we still need to conduct ourselves with some civility.
Take care..
adsfbike
04-21-2007, 02:07 AM
so can we hear any of that secret info now?
shardima
04-21-2007, 02:16 AM
There is the evidence? Any docs to support??
There is the evidence? Any docs to support??
My source in the region denies this news.....
Four hours ago I could freely by x amount of million dong for $95 AUD. The shop has since closed for the day.
Interesting though that the State Bank of Vietnam website is down !
http://www.sbv.gov.vn/
CBI has gone down from time to time. Everytime means an RV until it comes back up with the previous rate, which is usually thought to be a mistake. "What, they forgot to include the RV'ed rate!!??, ...what gives??!"
I remember one time when CBI went down the day after GWB made his suprise visit to Baghdad last summer, people on the chat room of another public forum were telling each other congrats on their new millionaire status and such.
I'm reading very little into it..... or much of the rumour :)
Would be a heck of a nice surprise though.......
It's quite easy... goto the State Bank of Vietnam site... bookmark it... check it every hour. Kudos to those who thought about doing this !
Because it's the weekend and the site is down, probably not a big issue.
16 VND to the USD ?? Hmmm I could well be the first millionaire in real terms 'made' on this forum.
I think they left off three zeroes !
TREBOR
04-21-2007, 03:10 AM
I've just checked out that currency converter world news site and when you convert USD to IQD, THERE HAS BEEN A RV:happy64: , but do it the other way round, NO RV:no: . Whats going on, can anybody explain this to me.:(
fproano
04-21-2007, 03:20 AM
There is something up, I can feel it. These strange numbers makes you think, good luck to everybody!!
TREBOR
04-21-2007, 03:46 AM
Just checked out another five currency converters and no RV has happened yet. I think someone at world news currency converter thought it would be funny to leave their site like that for the weekend, just to get us all going.
Check the times that the other converters are updated. I just looked at yahoo's and it hasn't changed but then I looked at the last updated ime and it was 1:00pm GMT, so even if there was a change it would not ahve showed.
postcon
04-21-2007, 03:53 AM
Whatever the motives behind such threads, this is akin to looking for a needle in a haystack. When it pricks you, it's for real. Until such time, keep searching and keep hoping!
The crazy thing is that every forex site on the internet could be showing 1:1 , and CBI could be showing 1272, and it would still be 1272.
I'd have to agree. people have also questioned the CBI rate discaimer below; thats there in case a hacker wants to play games w/there rates for the day. Actually I'm supprised noone (hacker) plyed w/that site yet.
Now I would like to take this intermission time for Paco's Pic of the Day:
http://www.surfersam.com/joke-of-the-day/paco.jpg
Now I can't stop laughing, thanks Paco you're the greatest...:lmao:
This concludes the intermission, you may now return to your program already in progress...
miketaylor
04-21-2007, 04:17 AM
It is a mistake.
Sorry chaps. No RV yet
Maybe it shows that because its an in-house rv. When switched the rest of the world recognizes the last auction amount. Only being hopeful we won't know til tuesday!
Just tried to order some Vietnamese Dong from the foreign currency department of BofA and they said they can't offer a current rate so I can't order it. Seems like something's going on because it's not just that one website.
Ialdoboath
04-21-2007, 04:47 AM
Just tried to order some Vietnamese Dong from the foreign currency department of BofA and they said they can offer a current rate so I can't order it. Seems like something's going on because it's not just that one website.
menafn.com does live trade updates every hour or so. They are showing the dinar at 1212.6
http://www.menafn.com/currency_charts_data.asp?BC=USD&CC=IQD&CT=1M (http://www.menafn.com/currency_charts_data.asp?BC=USD&CC=IQD&CT=1M)
I meant can't. I already edited.
I think they'd go by the CBI's rate.
Ialdoboath
04-21-2007, 05:06 AM
I think they'd go by the CBI's rate.
CBI is the base price banks buy at. Banks do nto sell at the same rate or they would make no money. They sell more around the menafn.com rate, and are therefore obligued to buy back at something between that and the CBI rate. So if CBI sells for 1272 and menafn.com shows a market rate of 1212, banks would then buy back around the 1260 mark (assuming they buy back at all).
knilles
04-21-2007, 05:23 AM
I has been confirmed by multiple sources, there will be no RV before 2012.
There will a reprint, on Sunday 4/21/07 will this be made public. This is the reason all the sold called "currency websites" are acting weird.
Sorry guys, but this is the truth.....
I has been confirmed by multiple sources, there will be no RV before 2012.
There will a reprint, on Sunday 4/21/07 will this be made public. This is the reason all the sold called "currency websites" are acting weird.
Sorry guys, but this is the truth.....
I truly appreciate your honesty in these apocalyptic difficult times. LMAO!...
robione
04-21-2007, 05:30 AM
Please be aware that FOREX is considered closed from 4pm EST Friday (when banks close in EST) until banks open in Australia Monday morning (About 6PM est Sunday). You should not see rates change much if at all during that time and rates that you do see shouldn't be considered reliable... actually it depends on how their program reacts to the fact there is no live feed at those times and if the program read one too many times off a dead feed.
As for the dong reval to 6 cents... I'd poo myself not in excitement but in fear!!! It's too nice a number..... called a triple lop. Ow the pain.
Roninvestor
04-21-2007, 05:31 AM
Knilles, would you care to post a link to this information?
BugmanIraq
04-21-2007, 05:33 AM
I has been confirmed by multiple sources, there will be no RV before 2012.
There will a reprint, on Sunday 4/21/07 will this be made public. This is the reason all the sold called "currency websites" are acting weird.
Sorry guys, but this is the truth.....
Whew! The truth. I'm glad I know that so I can concentrate on my dong.:D :eek: :p
Knilles, would you care to post a link to this information?
Lookout it might be a secret and we would not want to start WWIII if it was prematurely released...:no: :lmao:
sabrina
04-21-2007, 05:42 AM
I don't post here very often, got kinda burned out after a while, so I just lurk now.
But, I opened this thread and had to lend my experience. About two years ago I was putzin' around visiting several of the conversion sites, and found this very same thing. FX, XE, Saxo-if I reversed the currency codes from the standard: IQD to USD, it came up with 1:1 conversion-but USD to IQD came back at 1:1320(or whatever it was at that time).
Don't mean to be rainin' on anyone's parade, but been here, done this.
I do hope I'm wrong, but when I visited Rock's link it was like that. On the good side, when visiting FX, XE this morning, it did not happen....so maybe just maybe London knows something we all don't....
I so hope I'm wrong.
knilles
04-21-2007, 05:45 AM
Sorry, can't give any specific information at the moment, on Monday everything will be clear to every one, trust me on this one.
Don't shoot the messenger, it was a tough call, but someone had to say it sooner or later. Sorry DaRock, but your inside information was way, way off......
Sunday 2130 UTC, banks are open here..... if you don't see me for a while you'll know why :)
It shall be revealed if the Kurds hold the key... who holds chandeliers.... and who shall be holding their dong :)
GIBBO
04-21-2007, 06:09 AM
Sunday 2130 UTC, banks are open here..... if you don't see me for a while you'll know why :)
It shall be revealed if the Kurds hold the key... who holds chandeliers.... and who shall be holding their dong :)
What you mean they are open here? I am from Australia to. What bank you talking about?
BugmanIraq
04-21-2007, 06:20 AM
So we have some folks that joined in 06 pumping the dinar investment like Jimmy Swaggert pumps the Bible and Louisiana hookers and some who say that the end is near and the dinar is deader than Barbara in the Night of the Living Dead(original).
They have "inside sources" that now say, "we can't tell you" after all those informative post and more cut and paste jobs than the main character in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
More bs has never been laid on so many people since Bill Clinton told the world he did not have sexual relations with Ms. Lewenski.
Too much Paul Winfield??
Oh yeah! Go dinar!
BILLYG
04-21-2007, 06:23 AM
Dude, stop acting like your special for knowing "secrets" that only you and other "cool" people can know. If it RV's we will all find out. It's not like your the only one who gets to know, and you can just tease everyone with what they could know if they were cool enough to be "elite" like you, it's getting sooooo old. We are all here to find out info, not beg you for "special" "inside" "info". You have had your fun with this, now please let it go, and stop toying with people here.
I couldn't agree more!!!!
I've just checked out that currency converter world news site and when you convert USD to IQD, THERE HAS BEEN A RV:happy64: , but do it the other way round, NO RV:no: . Whats going on, can anybody explain this to me.:(
It has to be a mistake. How could one news outlet have the info on a RV and no one else. and even if they had some kind of inside info, why would they release it and potentially look foolish. Don't get your hopes up based on this , there is plenty of other new the speculate on.
What you mean they are open here? I am from Australia to. What bank you talking about?
Sunday 2130 UTC = Monday morning, 9.30am, AEST :)
Oops, actually it's 2330 UTC !
Sorry, can't give any specific information at the moment, on Monday everything will be clear to every one, trust me on this one.
Don't shoot the messenger, it was a tough call, but someone had to say it sooner or later. Sorry DaRock, but your inside information was way, way off......
Speculation or not...THIS is the kinda BS that gets folks riled up and throwin' nasties around...In turn u go thru 60 posts saying NOTHING...
If u have something SPIT IT OUT already...Some of u guys act like you're the damn Prime Minister of Finance himself...
Unbelievable...
I do believe EVERYONE here is on the SAME side???
Crosslakeboy
04-21-2007, 06:53 AM
Ok, Darock went out on a limb. The limb broke(within a few seconds) and he came crashing down. On to next Friday, to go out on a limb. This time make it a bigger limb so you dont come crashing down so fast. Make it an oak instead a birch tree.
You'll see the revalue on Fox before you see it on one of these currency converters.
oldskiier
04-21-2007, 06:56 AM
I has been confirmed by multiple sources, there will be no RV before 2012.
There will a reprint, on Sunday 4/21/07 will this be made public. This is the reason all the sold called "currency websites" are acting weird.
Sorry guys, but this is the truth.....
I feel really good about this !!!!! As Sunday is the 22nd.... not the 21 st !!!!I love it when a rumor comes out of the box a lie !!!!:happy64:
coconut
04-21-2007, 07:08 AM
10 foot pole --------------> me not touching it.
kev655
04-21-2007, 07:27 AM
BOA doesnt trade in the dinar, only the dong!!!!! They dont show an exchange rate!!! Here is what is says down below!!! BOA Started selling the dong two days ago. All orders that were placed yesterday, were cancelled. How do I know this, I placed several orders!!! There saying that they ran out, how does one of the largest banks that trade in foreign currency run out in a day????? BOA doesnt trade in currency that are not traded international thst why they dont trade in the dinar, that is what they told me!!!! Remember when Step. was on here, everybody got excited that the dinar was going to be traded by the BOA, but it never happened!!! But the dong is now!!!!
Bank of America is unable to provide a rate for this currency at this time. For further information about this currency, please contact a Bank of America Foreign Currency Representative at 1.888.660.0130, 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. Pacific Time, Monday through Friday; and 6 a.m. to 2 p.m. Pacific Time on Saturday.
http://www.bankofamerica.com/x.gif
Darock is 100% correct. B of A started selling Dong on the 17th April. They then STOPPED selling online the day after due to the huge demand for that Currency. I do believe they still accepted a limited number of Phone Orders from what I heard.
Bank of America have also categorically stated that they ONLY trade currencies that are on the FOREX...That's why Iraq is NOT listed online in it's available Countries..
Take into note that articles state the Dong is NOT likely to revalue, yet I was looking on the Net for general info about revaluing the Dong and there were MANY articles dated around the end of last year stating that the local Currency pressures in Asia, and I quote now: "may force a revaluation" of the Dong....
Remember China: "We will float the Yuan in 6 months!", only to then do it 2 days later....
Draw your own conclusions...
Adster
04-21-2007, 07:37 AM
This is what it now says.....
Exchange Rate for Vietnam Dong: CALL 1.888.660.0130
6 a.m. to 6 p.m. Pacific Time, Monday through Friday; and 6 a.m. to 2 p.m. Pacific Time on Saturday.
MHouse
04-21-2007, 07:37 AM
Knilles - All economists agree, Iraq is broke and the cost to reprint simply is NOT in the budget, nor would it be worth it.
Rock - Maybe you should just PM all your supporters with any info instead of opening yourself up to such junk. I'm getting weary of all their crap. Keep giving us anything you find.
http://www.thanhniennews.com/
Alas poor Yorick, no RV mentioned :(
kuremike
04-21-2007, 07:52 AM
It was a short term glitch. It has been corrected.
I agree with this one. FX converter website showed:
1 dollar = 16,430.6 dong
1 dollar = 1,328 IQD (hmm on this though as it has been 1270 or so)
1 dollar = .29 KWD (normal)
Anything different we will see on Sunday or Monday I guess...
geowhiz
04-21-2007, 07:55 AM
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
This phrase is interesting. What the hell do you mean by this SK?
eatrocks
04-21-2007, 08:03 AM
yeah
now i'm crazy for dongs
MHouse
04-21-2007, 08:45 AM
I have checked a dozen different exchanges. It seems they are ALL different. No one seems to have the same figures for the dinar. It's all over the place. Where do they get their info??
heres-hoping
04-21-2007, 08:54 AM
They should be getting their info from the CBI.
KnightsCharger
04-21-2007, 09:03 AM
Whatever the motives behind such threads, this is akin to looking for a needle in a haystack. When it pricks you, it's for real. Until such time, keep searching and keep hoping!
Lady's skip this!!! don't you mean "when it dongs you", it's for real!!!!
That was too easy!!!! :lmao:
Where's wolverine, he should have been all over an opening like that!!!:lmao:
Looks to me like a simple mistake from the web site,
sunday or monday will paint a better picture,
Oh and to the fool who thinks they are reprinting, put up your link like Darock did, otherwise you looks like your full of BS.
Shau - Kenshin
04-21-2007, 09:14 AM
Dang ... I cant miss this...
Yeah, pull it out before it 'infects' you
TREBOR
04-21-2007, 09:21 AM
I would just like to apologise for my earlier inaccurate posts I posted. When I saw darock0116 thread I was like a big kid who just been given the keys to the candy store.
To clarify, I have been watching this website for months and listening to what has been speculated by this forum. At this juncture, my assessment of what is driving the impediment to the reval is diametrically opposed to what many of you think. Additionally, I am with Darock when he said it is all about the oil!! However, in my opinion, the world forgiving Iraq's billions in debt is the real wild card.
Currently, in my opinion, the Iraqi Government is waiting for all of their creditors to exonerate them from the debts owed and then they will assess what to do with the value of their currency. It should also be said that collectively, as a "people", negotiation and bartering is a stong suit for these individuals and we are seeing evidence of that now.
To take this one step further, these people are "horse traders" by nature and have been bargaining commodites for thousands of years and have obviously developed an acumen for structuring a "deal" that favors them at the end of the day. To encapsulate, we are dealing with a group of extremely sherwd, "street savvy" individuals who are constructing the framework for a multi billion dollar pay day for themselves. If they can wipe their "debt slate" clean, revalue their currency, turn on the oil pumps, they have just created a financial juggernaut from now into perpituity.
In closing, we all know many variables play into this equation,
Hcl,fil, etc, etc, but until the debt is removed these people will hedge.
I know from reading this website daily, Billions have been forgiven already, however the Iraqi government will milk this for every penny.
Finally, if you distill this down, we all know that Iraq will revalue their
currency as they will not allow their country to be purchased for pennies on the dollar. That being said, I believe this is an "all in" poker game where either we win big or fall victim to Iraq designing a new currency that would effectively kill our investments. However,
as the Bush Administation has been intimately involved since day one, and due to the fact that the United States government has to recompense themselves for footing the bill for this war, I don't see a new currency being implemented. I believe in time this investment will pay off!!
buck74
04-21-2007, 10:03 AM
This is the way it has always been. These web sites are not reliable, and many times not accurate. We have seen exchange rates in the past that made people think there was an rv - all were WRONG. The only one that matters is the one posted below. Have a nice day.
http://www.cbiraq.org/cbs6.htm
I have checked a dozen different exchanges. It seems they are ALL different. No one seems to have the same figures for the dinar. It's all over the place. Where do they get their info??
waiting_game
04-21-2007, 10:54 AM
Originally Posted by Secret Key
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
This phrase is interesting. What the hell do you mean by this SK?
Ya, i'd like to know what he means too... any guesses or we he or someone else actually tells us (no bs either).
Adster
04-21-2007, 10:59 AM
This is the way it has always been. These web sites are not reliable, and many times not accurate. We have seen exchange rates in the past that made people think there was an rv - all were WRONG. The only one that matters is the one posted below. Have a nice day.
http://www.cbiraq.org/cbs6.htm
And this one for the dong, which is currently down.................
http://www.sbv.gov.vn/home/index.asp
coconut
04-21-2007, 11:12 AM
Shop Ding's for your Dong's - Ding's Dongs are most reliable.
Call Now : 1-800-USUCKER
Joel57
04-21-2007, 11:12 AM
Sorry, can't give any specific information at the moment, on Monday everything will be clear to every one, trust me on this one.
Don't shoot the messenger, it was a tough call, but someone had to say it sooner or later. Sorry DaRock, but your inside information was way, way off......
First, let me thank you for the early morning laugh....nice way to start my day.
Second, this isn't speculation on your part (or not posted that way), you are stating it as fact, when in fact it is nothing but a rumor (a bad one at that).
Again, thanks for the laughs...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :wave:
Sinned
04-21-2007, 11:29 AM
First, let me thank you for the early morning laugh....nice way to start my day.
Second, this isn't speculation on your part (or not posted that way), you are stating it as fact, when in fact it is nothing but a rumor (a bad one at that).
Again, thanks for the laughs...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :wave:I guess if DaRock got away with it, he feels he can get away with it, too.
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool: i know too Secret Key. ;)
DealOrBuyDinar
04-21-2007, 11:34 AM
I haven't read through all 8 pages of this post so I don't know if the obvious has been pointed out yet. For whatever reason this system dropped 3 zeroes. Probably because it is not set up to read them due to the fact that most currencies don't require it.
It's showing the VND = .062 The VND = .000062
It's showing the IQD = 1 The IQD = .000786
Just a guess but it appears it dropped the 3 0's and possibly rounded up? I don't know.
Regardless, you can see that this currency exchange converter is not reading the 0's either. Either that or... Oh my gosh! The VND has RV'd at $6.25. Almost twice the v alue of the KWD!
http://www.gocurrency.com/v2/dorate.php?inV=1&from=VND&to=USD&Calculate=Convert
Awww, darn it. Looks like XE.com has the true exchange rate still up. Oh well. :) You can check the exchange rate for the IQD here too.
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi
Okay, everybody move on, nothing to see here. :drunk:
oldskiier
04-21-2007, 11:36 AM
i know too Secret Key. ;)
How could they know anything when not 1 of their perdictions have come true ...!!....just a question ....??.....I wish they did !!
Rock, each and every time you pour out your brand of H**se S**t, you lose important credibility. If you have nothing to post, do the right thing and lurk.
How does this damage DaRock's credibility? He just pointed out something he saw, even in the title he asks if it RV'ed he doesn't say it actually did. Many of us saw this post last night and checked the website he posted and saw the samething.
sgmunson
04-21-2007, 11:48 AM
All,
I just called Bank of America at the number listed when the foreign currency exchange part of their website tells you to call in because it can't provide a rate for the Vietnam Dong. The person indicated that BoA no longer sells the Dong, and I acted somewhat surprised and asked if they knew why. The response indicated that the whole thing was quite the rush job, and that they began selling it Wednesday (4/11) and then Friday(4/13) they were told "no more", and that the reason may be because it's re-valuing. They also said they'd never experienced anything quite like it. Finally, the persons last statement was to indicate that the last exchange rate they had in their system was on the order of 13,000 something to 1. So there may indeed be some substance to the idea, although you would think that if the BoA foreign exchange folks are being told about the reason, or perhaps just aren't being told not to talk about why, that the RV information was perhaps already public. I have yet to find anything online to suggest an RV for the Dong, so all we can qualify this information as is "speculative, but encouraging"...
Try to take it for what it is, folks. We don't really know much other than BoA appears to be suggesting (by it's actions more than it's words) that an RV for the Dong MAY be imminent. Unless someone can come up with other ideas that would support them going to the trouble of setting up to sell the Dong and then just abandoning it entirely, I'm going to choose to believe that an RV appears to be imminent... at least for now, and until better information comes along.
Steve
(aka sgmunson)
:happy64: :happy64: :happy64: :happy64:
coconut
04-21-2007, 11:53 AM
I was just at the bank - Dong is for sale through BofA - approx. 120/million.
Adster
04-21-2007, 11:54 AM
Steve,
Have a search on Chaka's posts. He put it together nicely. ;)
saramiller
04-21-2007, 12:01 PM
THANKS! Steve...
This has been is currently in the news about the pressure to raise Viet Nam's rates from the IMF...if it does not now, from what I read it could be at anytime..although, from what I read, the Vietnamese are not really wanting to - as it would increase the costs of their exports - which represent that largest part of their GDP.
but,
as far as the currency quotes (at the posted site) they are know for being out of wack (speciaaly around the end of the trading week) before...I was told before when I asked that it was system maintenance or it burped...but, usually if you reverse the exchange from USD/Dinar to Dinar/USD you would get a correct rate...
It starlted me when I first read the post...OH MY!!! I got a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach...almost felt like a deer caught in the headlights of a car..."Oh, MY! What do I do now..." This tells me that when it really does happen...I really don't have a plan in place on how to procide...Anyone else feel that way or do you have a plan (finance advisors, investiments, how to avoid getting your account frozen by the Tresury or Drug Enforcement...etc...instead of get to the bank...spend like crazy...file chapter 11 in a year or two)?
Sara
Adster
04-21-2007, 12:09 PM
Chaka's post.
http://www.investorsiraq.com/showthread.php?p=342720#post342720
Mucho Dinaro
04-21-2007, 12:16 PM
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
Well, doesn't this seem just like high school. I, like many, would like to know what is up, but it really doesn't matter now does it? If it's legit, it will happen and we can all point fingers and say certain people KNEW IT FIRST.............which in the grand scheme of things amounts to a big WHHHOOOOOPPPDI DOOOOOOOOODAHHHH. We will all be wealthy or continue to be poor all at the same time. yawn.
lglwzrd
04-21-2007, 12:18 PM
I was just at the bank - Dong is for sale through BofA - approx. 120/million.
that is way up from 76.00 per mil on thurs.
dinardude
04-21-2007, 12:27 PM
:happy64: Woo Hoo The Time Is Here Woo Hoo:happy64:.....oh!! DD * wipes the dinar sleep from eyes*....all this drama got me excited once again...these old bones love the excitment...keep it up guys...over the years I still get excited....I'm back to sleep until next time.
How could they know anything when not 1 of their perdictions have come true ...!!....just a question ....??.....I wish they did !!just to make it clear ive never ever posted a rumour.. or anything other than articles i find. ;)
Pimpmaximus
04-21-2007, 12:40 PM
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool:
I'm quite certain we would..............:shhh:
PraiseKingGeorge
04-21-2007, 12:58 PM
I was just at the bank - Dong is for sale through BofA - approx. 120/million.
This is incorrect. Just called B of A foreign currency exchange at (800) 523-7860. They told me that they are out of dong and that all future sales have been curtailed.
NO MORE DONG FOR SALE AT BANK OF AMERICA...PERIOD! The B of A rep was adamant about that as I asked three times if this was a temporary condition. :(
MOM2TWO
04-21-2007, 01:15 PM
This is incorrect. Just called B of A foreign currency exchange at (800) 523-7860. They told me that they are out of dong and that all future sales have been curtailed.
NO MORE DONG FOR SALE AT BANK OF AMERICA...PERIOD! The B of A rep was adamant about that as I asked three times if this was a temporary condition. :(
I wonder why they only sold it for a few days???:rolleyes:
coconut
04-21-2007, 01:20 PM
West Coast prices - BC only.
that is way up from 76.00 per mil on thurs.
michaelb4348
04-21-2007, 01:25 PM
I wonder why they only sold it for a few days???:rolleyes:
maybe they know something we dont????????
coconut
04-21-2007, 01:29 PM
stop selling - How much do you want???
Now you know what I know - the truth.
maybe they know something we dont????????
michaelb4348
04-21-2007, 01:32 PM
stop selling - How much do you want???
Now you know what I know - the truth.
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i have a mil i dont want any just read it says they stop selling i thought maybe because they know things we dont
darock0116
04-21-2007, 01:35 PM
stop selling - How much do you want???
Now you know what I know - the truth.
Hey coconut, are you talking about a branch of the BOA or a dealer????:D
Jeffro
04-21-2007, 01:41 PM
Rumor is they pulled out due to premature e-speculation. :eek: :confused:
MOM2TWO
04-21-2007, 01:44 PM
I know for a FACT that BofA is NOT selling! My two orders I put in on Wed. and Thurs. were cancelled "because they are out of stock":rolleyes: I was able to get some from a dealer.
Adster
04-21-2007, 01:54 PM
So let's look at this. They had the dong on their books for 2 days before now saying they have run out. Pretty pathetic excuse! And why wouldn't they just say, 'we'll get some more in guys'???
Now we know they only exchange currencies that are fully convertible and I believe on the world markets, ie Forex.
Yesterday they stated on their site they could not give an exchange rate for the dong at that time. Today you have to call them to get a rate. Why? When they are no longer exchanging it.......
We know the IMF are pushing the dong to be revalued and next week there is a big economic opening liftoff meeting on 23/24th. And a bank holiday on 26th........
Definitely does not sound coincidental all of this IMO. Maybe we will get our answer within the next week. :D
fixyourbone
04-21-2007, 01:58 PM
just to make it clear ive never ever posted a rumour.. or anything other than articles i find. ;)
Hey Nile.... why is it that all of the sudden you feel like you cant share any of the information that you have if you also "are in the know"???
Rock.. great thread - I too obviously hope that it is true, but your hesitancy to reveal your sources is whats making us all question the reality of the your speculation...
michaelb4348
04-21-2007, 02:14 PM
we need to just read what we see and do nothing but think what we belive and wait no point pushin for links and sources best just read if it rv then we will know anyway but rock post information all time and seems very good you should respect him an others for digging for the info even if he was a dealer WHICH I DOUBT then the stuff is still a good read an raises are hopes
darock0116
04-21-2007, 02:46 PM
So let's look at this. They had the dong on their books for 2 days before now saying they have run out. Pretty pathetic excuse! And why wouldn't they just say, 'we'll get some more in guys'???
Now we know they only exchange currencies that are fully convertible and I believe on the world markets, ie Forex.
Yesterday they stated on their site they could not give an exchange rate for the dong at that time. Today you have to call them to get a rate. Why? When they are no longer exchanging it.......
We know the IMF are pushing the dong to be revalued and next week there is a big economic opening liftoff meeting on 23/24th. And a bank holiday on 26th........
Definitely does not sound coincidental all of this IMO. Maybe we will get our answer within the next week. :D
Take a look at this. I just got off the phone with a supervisor at BOA. I spoke with her for about ten minutes. This what she told me. I asked her why they cancelled my orders, all you could say is that they ran out. I was one of the first oders placed on Tuesday what they told me!!!! The rep. told myself Tuesday that, they started selling on their website on Tuesday, and the Branches would start on Weds. Then the supervisor told me she had hundreds of calls, about people asking about the .0625 rate, the I asked here if this was true all she could do is laugh!!!! On thursday when I called they said they were out. I ask when BOA would be getting some more in, they couldnt give me an answer. This is very odd to me. Then today they told me that they were not going to sell the dong anymore, what I said, Yesterday you told me you ran out, and today you not selling. Then I ask here why keep it on your website? If you know your not going to sell it anymore then remove it so people quit calling. Why post that disclaimer about the rate and have the customer call, when they dont sell it anymore!!! Then I ask her what rate she had, she qouted me the last rate that I purchased at 13176 to 1. This is what I came up with. BOA prematurely started selling the dong. THEY DO NOT SELL CURRENCY THAT IS TRADED INTERNATIONAL!!!!! They were suppose to start selling when the dong goes on the forex IMO!!!
Guys I know everybody has mixed emotions, about what I have posted, but you cant tell me that, there isnt something going on with the dong. Why would the IMF and IRAQ let Vietnam RV before them. IT would be in their best interest to RV at the same time!!!!!:D
michaelb4348
04-21-2007, 02:49 PM
Take a look at this. I just got off the phone with a supervisor at BOA. I spoke with her for about ten minutes. This what she told me. I asked her why they cancelled my orders, all you could say is that they ran out. I was one of the first oders placed on Tuesday what they told me!!!! The rep. told myself Tuesday that, they started selling on their website on Tuesday, and the Branches would start on Weds. Then the supervisor told me she had hundreds of calls, about people asking about the .0625 rate, the I asked here if this was true all she could do is laugh!!!! On thursday when I called they said they were out. I ask when BOA would be getting some more in, they couldnt give me an answer. This is very odd to me. Then today they told me that they were not going to sell the dong anymore, what I said, Yesterday you told me you ran out, and today you not selling. Then I ask here why keep it on your website? If you know your not going to sell it anymore then remove it so people quit calling. Why post that disclaimer about the rate and have the customer call, when they dont sell it anymore!!! Then I ask her what rate she had, she qouted me the last rate that I purchased at 13176 to 1. This is what I came up with. BOA prematurely started selling the dong. THEY DO NOT SELL CURRENCY THAT IS TRADED INTERNATIONAL!!!!! They were suppose to start selling when the dong goes on the forex IMO!!!
Guys I know everybody has mixed emotions, about what I have posted, but you cant tell me that, there isnt something going on with the dong. Why would the IMF and IRAQ let Vietnam RV before them. IT would be in their best interest to RV at the same time!!!!!:D
HI SILLY QUESTION BUT WHY AT THE SAME TIME WOULD IT BE GOOD?
darock0116
04-21-2007, 02:51 PM
Hey Nile.... why is it that all of the sudden you feel like you cant share any of the information that you have if you also "are in the know"???
Rock.. great thread - I too obviously hope that it is true, but your hesitancy to reveal your sources is whats making us all question the reality of the your speculation...
Listen guys, the reason you dont give up info, so you keep getting it. If someone tells you not to give out info, and you trust this person and you give them your word then you dont!!! If I come out and told you what I know, there are people here that will implecate you in an instance. Then when it gets back to the source, the source is not going to tell you another thing becasue they cant trust you. If I posted some of the info, that I know, you guys wouldnt believe me anyway, so why put myself through this!!!! There is info here people, just think about it, the dong is going to happen IMO, from just what we are seeing from the BOA!!!!-:D
eatrocks
04-21-2007, 02:52 PM
Take a look at this. I just got off the phone with a supervisor at BOA. I spoke with her for about ten minutes. This what she told me. I asked her why they cancelled my orders, all you could say is that they ran out. I was one of the first oders placed on Tuesday what they told me!!!! The rep. told myself Tuesday that, they started selling on their website on Tuesday, and the Branches would start on Weds. Then the supervisor told me she had hundreds of calls, about people asking about the .0625 rate, the I asked here if this was true all she could do is laugh!!!! On thursday when I called they said they were out. I ask when BOA would be getting some more in, they couldnt give me an answer. This is very odd to me. Then today they told me that they were not going to sell the dong anymore, what I said, Yesterday you told me you ran out, and today you not selling. Then I ask here why keep it on your website? If you know your not going to sell it anymore then remove it so people quit calling. Why post that disclaimer about the rate and have the customer call, when they dont sell it anymore!!! Then I ask her what rate she had, she qouted me the last rate that I purchased at 13176 to 1. This is what I came up with. BOA prematurely started selling the dong. THEY DO NOT SELL CURRENCY THAT IS TRADED INTERNATIONAL!!!!! They were suppose to start selling when the dong goes on the forex IMO!!!
Guys I know everybody has mixed emotions, about what I have posted, but you cant tell me that, there isnt something going on with the dong. Why would the IMF and IRAQ let Vietnam RV before them. IT would be in their best interest to RV at the same time!!!!!:D
looks like BoA messed up....that pretty much signals that they are going to sell it..once itson Forex
i was able to get 500,000 dong on ebay with buy it now
people are buying this like its crack
makes sense that they would RV the dong and dinar together, if they don't and the dong RVs, i'll use the profits for more dinar....
most likely what everyone else will do who has invested in both
Roninvestor
04-21-2007, 02:57 PM
:wave: I went online Thursday. Ordered 2 mil Dong, got confirmation number. Called yesterday got a Fed-Ex shipping # which i traced and is now in Ft. Worth Tx to be delivered on Monday. I have been a long time B o A Account holder with a B o A Credit card. Just guess I was lucky to get my order filled. It was late eve on Thursday when I ordered also. I will let youall know when I recieve my order.:wave:
darock0116
04-21-2007, 02:57 PM
HI SILLY QUESTION BUT WHY AT THE SAME TIME WOULD IT BE GOOD?
Here is an example:
Say the dong RV on Monday!!!
The rate is .0625, you have 10 million dong, you go excahnge it, then you have $625,000.
Now say the dinar doesnt RV anytime within two or three days of the dong. You can take some of your profits from the dong and purchase more dinar, depending on if it was available.
Say you exchange 5,000,000 dong for the dinar!!! If it was available. The exchange rate on the dinar as of Friday from Chase was .00086870.
5 million dong=$312500
$312500USD value of the dong exchange for the dinar, would buy about 271,000,000 dinar, if the supply and demand aloud for you to do it!!!
NOW YOU SEE WHY THIS CANT HAPPEN!!!!!!!
michaelb4348
04-21-2007, 03:20 PM
but hope there is no let down because we get hyped up and have a big let down everytime i hope not though
eatrocks
04-21-2007, 03:23 PM
Here is an example:
Say the dong RV on Monday!!!
The rate is .0625, you have 10 million dong, you go excahnge it, then you have $625,000.
Now say the dinar doesnt RV anytime within two or three days of the dong. You can take some of your profits from the dong and purchase more dinar, depending on if it was available.
Say you exchange 5,000,000 dong for the dinar!!! If it was available. The exchange rate on the dinar as of Friday from Chase was .00086870.
5 million dong=$312500
$312500USD value of the dong exchange for the dinar, would buy about 271,000,000 dinar, if the supply and demand aloud for you to do it!!!
NOW YOU SEE WHY THIS CANT HAPPEN!!!!!!!
i know what you mean, i thought of this a while ago
if someone invested in dong, they probably invested in dinar too
if ur on the internet looking for dinar, you'll come across dong too,
i wish i bought dong at 70 buck a mil a few weeks ago, i had buy it for 55 bucks for 500,000
DealOrBuyDinar
04-21-2007, 03:52 PM
I haven't read through all 8 pages of this post so I don't know if the obvious has been pointed out yet. For whatever reason this system dropped 3 zeroes. Probably because it is not set up to read them due to the fact that most currencies don't require it.
It's showing the VND = .062 The VND = .000062
It's showing the IQD = 1 The IQD = .000786
Just a guess but it appears it dropped the 3 0's and possibly rounded up? I don't know.
Regardless, you can see that this currency exchange converter is not reading the 0's either. Either that or... Oh my gosh! The VND has RV'd at $6.25. Almost twice the v alue of the KWD!
http://www.gocurrency.com/v2/dorate.php?inV=1&from=VND&to=USD&Calculate=Convert
Awww, darn it. Looks like XE.com has the true exchange rate still up. Oh well. :) You can check the exchange rate for the IQD here too.
http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi
Okay, everybody move on, nothing to see here. :drunk:
One other thing. I just spoke with a fellow dealer. He ordered another 8 billion Dong on Thursday. Sorry to say so, but I seriously doubt he would have been able to get a hold of 8 billion Dong at $77 per million if it was going to RV over the weekend.
darock0116
04-21-2007, 04:03 PM
One other thing. I just spoke with a fellow dealer. He ordered another 8 billion Dong on Thursday. Sorry to say so, but I seriously doubt he would have been able to get a hold of 8 billion Dong at $77 per million if it was going to RV over the weekend.
Ok, answer this one then, how did a dealer get 8 billion more dong, but the largest foreign currency trader in the world is out of stock!!!!HMMMM HMMMM:D
I understand what you are saying. So the bank is making around $15 USD per million that they sold, that is pretty good investment on there part!!!!
Fat Albert
04-21-2007, 04:16 PM
I just used the link and put in GBP to Dinar and got 1 Dinar to £0.0004121!
DealOrBuyDinar
04-21-2007, 04:19 PM
Ok, answer this one then, how did a dealer get 8 billion more dong, but the largest foreign currency trader in the world is out of stock!!!!HMMMM HMMMM:D
I understand what you are saying. So the bank is making around $15 USD per million that they sold, that is pretty good investment on there part!!!!
Who is the largest currency foreign currency trader in the world?
Speculation or not...THIS is the kinda BS that gets folks riled up and throwin' nasties around...In turn u go thru 60 posts saying NOTHING...
If u have something SPIT IT OUT already...Some of u guys act like you're the damn Prime Minister of Finance himself...
Unbelievable...
I do believe EVERYONE here is on the SAME side???
I believe it's obvious that knilles was just joking around...;)
I'm getting excited.dont..............
Riceboi
04-21-2007, 04:44 PM
One other thing. I just spoke with a fellow dealer. He ordered another 8 billion Dong on Thursday. Sorry to say so, but I seriously doubt he would have been able to get a hold of 8 billion Dong at $77 per million if it was going to RV over the weekend.
WTF This dealer bought $616,000 USD worth of Dong? Man I wish I was that rich.
You needs lot o stock to be a dealer.
darock0116
04-21-2007, 04:51 PM
Who is the largest currency foreign currency trader in the world?
B.O.A.!!!!!:D Bank of America!!!!!
darock0116
04-21-2007, 04:52 PM
Who is the largest currency foreign currency trader in the world?
Bank of America, ok maybe not the largest but one of the largest!!!!!
eBay sales of the Dong are going throuigh the roof. I thought I'd go get some since they're so cheap and (2) 500000 dong notes went for over $160.00 So even though the trade rate is less than $80 per million , they're going for over $160! Crazyness!!!
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 05:01 PM
yeah, anybody notice the view counter increase on the dong forum since this thread started, I suspect that was the %&#@!%&^*$#@ idea to begin with !
do the polymer dong have batteries included ?
:wave:
dont..............
Short but to the point, me like...:D
Jeffro
04-21-2007, 05:20 PM
Bank of America, ok maybe not the largest but one of the largest!!!!!
Maybe he's the reason they ran out.....:confused: I'm just saying :confused:
DinarDummy
04-21-2007, 05:33 PM
Maybe he's the reason they ran out.....:confused: I'm just saying :confused:
Of course. The banks only stock a limited amount of these currencies. A large dealer makes a move to buy everything he possibly can, gets a rumor started, and watches as prices go through the roof. Being the weekend, it's hard to get verificaton from more than a few selected locations. He's selling on ebay under multiple names in addition to his regular business, and it looks like something it really isn't.
Remember when the rumors started a run on the dinar a few months ago? Banks ran low, but within a week or so stocks were back up and it was business as usual.
Jeffro
04-21-2007, 05:40 PM
Of course. The banks only stock a limited amount of these currencies. A large dealer makes a move to buy everything he possibly can, gets a rumor started, and watches as prices go through the roof. Being the weekend, it's hard to get verificaton from more than a few selected locations. He's selling on ebay under multiple names in addition to his regular business, and it looks like something it really isn't.
Remember when the rumors started a run on the dinar a few months ago? Banks ran low, but within a week or so stocks were back up and it was business as usual.
:eek: :eek: I feel like, so violated. :(
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 05:42 PM
:eek: :eek: I feel like, so violated. :(
compromised even !!!:eek:
oldskiier
04-21-2007, 05:45 PM
I agree !!! and who in there right mind would buy "DONG"...at 13,000:1 that is the reason we bought Dinar it wasn't "Hyper" inflated like the Dong.it screems LOP Reprint !!!....we will be lucky if the Dinar RV at a good price let alone the DONG !!!! ....LOL not a smart investment if you ask me ....havent heard one word of their International Compact or Foreign investment Law...or HCL....just don't see it !!!
michaelb4348
04-21-2007, 05:46 PM
so negative we want posative
I agree !!! and who in there right mind would buy "DONG"...at 13,000:1 that is the reason we bought Dinar it wasn't "Hyper" inflated like the Dong.it screems LOP Reprint !!!....we will be lucky if the Dinar RV at a good price let alone the DONG !!!! ....LOL not a smart investment if you ask me ....havent heard one word of their International Compact or Foreign investment Law...or HCL....just don't see it !!!
For the Dong to reval some major implications on it have to change the minimum wage is 700,000 Dong a month way too much out there.
Iraq is another situation the Dinar is controled but not only that the majority is in the hands of GoI and banks not the Iraqi Citizen. The only ones who make out are banks and Gov't and some speculators. Because of this control you could see an overnight reval. Its sad but true the people of Iraq will not get rich buisness will but it will open jobs and politicians become welathy exactly what they want. Just sit back and wait for it to happen the timming will be right soon for their advantage to do it.
Ialdoboath
04-21-2007, 06:00 PM
I'd say this is an acceptable counter to all the "dong" phallic references we've seen in this thread. I also give some credit for using a neutral, non-derogatory term for female genitalia. There are sooooo many offensive versions of the word, and none of them come off as innocuousas "dong" for the male counterpart.
ummm ... you seem like a smart man so you must of known that this might make a few women upset. I can only assume you don't think much of them
geowhiz
04-21-2007, 06:02 PM
Here is an example:
Say the dong RV on Monday!!!
The rate is .0625, you have 10 million dong, you go excahnge it, then you have $625,000.
Now say the dinar doesnt RV anytime within two or three days of the dong. You can take some of your profits from the dong and purchase more dinar, depending on if it was available.
Say you exchange 5,000,000 dong for the dinar!!! If it was available. The exchange rate on the dinar as of Friday from Chase was .00086870.
5 million dong=$312500
$312500USD value of the dong exchange for the dinar, would buy about 271,000,000 dinar, if the supply and demand aloud for you to do it!!!
NOW YOU SEE WHY THIS CANT HAPPEN!!!!!!!
Thats precisely what we are going to do when we sell our 5 million dong, buy an obscene about of dinar and spin the roulette table ONE MORE TIME. YAH BABY!!
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 06:09 PM
ummm ... you seem like a smart man so you must of known that this might make a few women upset. I can only assume you don't think much of them
if any females take offense to it, I do apologize, but the point I'm making is generic and quite obvious so any woman offended by my statements is likely reading something more into it than is in fact there and is thus likely looking to be offended ! I think alot of women and nothing of dong and/or dong promoters !:wave:
Iraqigreg
04-21-2007, 06:11 PM
I know I am putting my butt on the line with this one, but I wanted everyone to see this for them self!!!! We need everyones input on this one!!! I am not saying it RV'd, nor am spreading a rumor. OK this is what I found here goes:
We have been hearing , really today, but I have heard of it for about a week now, that there is a possibility of the Dong RV. Also with all the news with the dinar, the potential of RV anytime IMO. With that said take a look at this!!!!
Dong
This site is saying that the dong is: 1USD=16VND Exchange Rate=.0625
Click here to see the rate (take a look a the time it is current)!!!! This chart is USD=VND
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=VND&amount=1
Now if you flip the exchange from VND to USD this is what you get:
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=VND&c2=USD&s1=VND&s2=USD
Its Blank!!!!!
We have heard by several different people that the dong would RV this weekend, guys this website is from england, it is Saturday already, it would make sense to RV on the weekend!!!!!
Dinar
This site is saying that the dinar is 1 to 1: 1USD=1IQD Exchange Rate=1.00
Click here to see the rate (take a look at the time it is current) USD=IQD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=IQD&amount=1
Now take a look here when you flip the exchange from IQD=USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=IQD&c2=USD&s1=IQD&s2=USD
You get the real rate!!!!
Now we have been hearing 1 to 1 or .98 euros, something is going on IMO!!!!
DISCLAIMER 1: This was strange to me, so I went and converted every currency on there exchange, guess what I found all the exchange rates were accurate, except the Dong and the Dinar. Here are two examples below!!! Check for yourself, its all right there!!!!
Kuwait Dinar
USD=KWD Exchange rate is 1USD = .29038KWD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=KWD&s1=USD&s2=KWD
KWD=USD Exchange rate is 1KWD = 3.47307USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=KWD&c2=USD&s1=KWD&s2=USD
Euro
USD=EUR Exchange Rate is 1USD = .77716EUR
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=USD&c2=EUR&s1=USD&s2=EUR
EUR=USD Exchange Rate is 1EUR = 1.28704USD
http://money.wn.com/?amount=1&c1=EUR&c2=USD&s1=EUR&s2=USD
OK almost done!!! I know this alot take in all at once, but something doesn't sound right!!! This is a major site, kind like the AP. They are located in the major financial Dist. in London!!!!! It would make since to RV both at the same time, so people don't double dip!!! Double dip is where you would take the profits from the dong, and purchase more dinar then hope for a RV. OK on that note let the posts began!!!
DISCLAIMER 2: This is not a rumor, it is speculation. This is info that I have found!!! Take a look for yourself and make a educated judgment for yourself, but in any way I am saying it did RV. The questions is, did it RV!!! Keep the bashing to a minimum and lets work on this together to see if this could be it!!!!! :happy64: :happy64: :happy64: :happy64:
Here is the site link:
http://www.wnnetwork.com/
then click on currency Market, then down on the right is the currency converter!!!!!!
Darock,
I have requested confirmation of the USD 1 IQD 1 exchange rate from The WorldNews Network, today.
Iraqigreg:huge:
I'd say this is an acceptable counter to all the "dong" phallic references we've seen in this thread. I also give some credit for using a neutral, non-derogatory term for female genitalia. There are sooooo many offensive versions of the word, and none of them come off as innocuous as "dong" for the male counterpart.
Very true indeed...
redvette
04-21-2007, 06:14 PM
Rock, what has happened to you?
Really you are starting to loose it.
Maybe rename your self "DUH ROCk"
I read your post and thought...man your loosing it.:rolleyes:
Sorry, but maybe you and Key need to take a break.
buck74
04-21-2007, 06:20 PM
My question would be if the dong is selling on ebay at 100% mark up, who is making the profit? Buying it for 80 dollars, and selling it for 160 is a pretty nice margin. We have seen people on forums start rumors, pump, then dump, in the past. People working in tandum, 3, 4, 5 (maybe even a fab 5). If there is no rv I would be pretty unhappy about paying twice the value for a currency. Buyer beware is all I can say. We will know soon enough.
"I don't smoke dope, chew rope, dance, prance, romance, fight, fart, ****, shoot the ****, or drive a truck. I've been to Maine, Spain, Spokanne, around the world three times, two world's fairs, and seen goats **** in the marketplace but I ain't never seen no **** like this!"
Did you really see goats kiss in the marketplace????
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 06:24 PM
"I don't smoke dope, chew rope, dance, prance, romance, fight, fart, ****, shoot the ****, or drive a truck. I've been to Maine, Spain, Spokanne, around the world three times, two world's fairs, and seen goats **** in the marketplace but I ain't never seen no **** like this!"
Did you really see goats kiss in the marketplace????
that's a fact !
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 06:28 PM
though it's not a pleasant memory, it is much nicer than some events I've witnessed elsewhere ! :eek:
My question would be if the dong is selling on ebay at 100% mark up, who is making the profit? Buying it for 80 dollars, and selling it for 160 is a pretty nice margin. We have seen people on forums start rumors, pump, then dump, in the past. People working in tandum, 3, 4, 5 (maybe even a fab 5). If there is no rv I would be pretty unhappy about paying twice the value for a currency. Buyer beware is all I can say. We will know soon enough.
Yeah,thats not too good,it would have to get to around 6200 to 1 before you are in the money,great for the dealers though.
I'm happy for them(the dealers) they have a new 'thing",just too bad about the name,dong dealer,but money is money!
MR32SLIM
04-21-2007, 07:46 PM
Darock,
I have requested confirmation of the USD 1 IQD 1 exchange rate from The WorldNews Network, today.
Iraqigreg:huge:
Go back and check the site. If you try to convert Canadian dollars to Iraqi Dinar, it also gives a 1:1 rate. Same with the Euro, which is stronger. I don't think anyone should go out and buy a bunch of dinar because one currency converter says the rate is 1:1 and no news about a RV has been printed--yet.
I'm happy for them(the dealers) they have a new 'thing",just too bad about the name,dong dealer,but money is money!
$160 is exploitation... $2000 per million IQD, anyone ??
I have three loads of washing that may reval... oh hang on...
I have three loads of washing that may reval...
Still not big enough.... but still.... any takers ?! :)
Go back and check the site. If you try to convert Canadian dollars to Iraqi Dinar, it also gives a 1:1 rate. Same with the Euro, which is stronger. I don't think anyone should go out and buy a bunch of dinar because one currency converter says the rate is 1:1 and no news about a RV has been printed--yet.
That site is not working to optimum specifications when the VND or IQD are entered. According to others it's been that way for either 18 or 24 months.
DealOrBuyDinar
04-21-2007, 08:06 PM
Bank of America, ok maybe not the largest but one of the largest!!!!!
This dealer got his shipped over from Hong Kong. $77 is what it cost to get it to his door. I think BofA is out of Dong because they sold it all and haven't purchased more to replenish their inventory. They did tell me however that they weren't going to be carrying it at all anymore. Not sure what to make of that. Maybe they don't want to be providing it to investors. Possibly? I don't know.
The next question is why did they sell out as of yesterday? I honestly think the simplest answer is probably the right one. They ran out because people believe it might reverse split this weekend. They don't stock for currency investors just travelers so we all probably cleaned them out. :rolleyes:
Trust me, there's more to be had. The person who is getting the 8 billion just needs to clear it through customs. It's already here. And he is the guy who provides me with my supply of the Vietnamese currency, as well as, Dinar sometimes.
Hey, I hope I'm wrong but that's what I know. Personally, I think it's going to happen for the VND sooner than it will for the IQD. I noticed I felt a lot calmer after I got into it than when I wasn't stocking it. That tells me I'm pretty convinced.
JMO
just convert 1million dinars to usd = 824.
TreasureHunter
04-21-2007, 08:22 PM
ummm ... you seem like a smart man so you must of known that this might make a few women upset. I can only assume you don't think much of them
Sounds MORE like he...Thinks of them,TOO MUCH! :lmao:
Judge Dredd
04-21-2007, 08:34 PM
What is up people. Has it revalued or not!!?? Why do people keep injecting dongs into this when most people own IQD!? Lets stay on this possible breaking news!
dejavu
04-21-2007, 08:50 PM
What is up people. Has it revalued or not!!?? Why do people keep injecting dongs into this when most people own IQD!? Lets stay on this possible breaking news!
I agree! Can we have a dong thread? is there one already? i don't own dong, the dinar is enough stress for me, LOL........I WANT DINAR STUFF http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Confused/3d-paranoid.gif
lglwzrd
04-21-2007, 10:06 PM
well i for 1 wish i had invested in 15 mil vaginas instead of 15 mil dong!!
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 10:50 PM
White Elephant !!!!! you shouldn't of started that, it's too late to get dressed & drive to town, besides last time went down there I woke up in jail !!!:happy26:
Jeffro
04-21-2007, 10:57 PM
White Elephant !!!!! you shouldn't of started that, it's too late to get dressed & drive to town, besides last time went down there I woke up in jail !!!:happy26:
I retired from all that several years ago....but still have some foggy fond and not so fond memories at the White Elephant, Cadillac, and PR's. Powder River....Let 'er Buck! :happy26:
Dinarespr
04-21-2007, 11:01 PM
Darock,
I have requested confirmation of the USD 1 IQD 1 exchange rate from The WorldNews Network, today.
Iraqigreg:huge:
This is their prediction: $1 to one dinar. Since it is not traded on the international market yet, as you all know, this is what they "wn" believes it will be when it comes out. Just an opinion. ;)
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 11:04 PM
I retired from all that several years ago....but still have some foggy fond and not so fond memories at the White Elephant, Cadillac, and PR's. Powder River....Let 'er Buck! :happy26:
I've long since retired from it all myself (duh, it's Saturday night and I'm sitting in front of my computer) but MEMORIES !!! I'm old ! PR's ,Cadillac, remember Filthy Mcnasty's and breakfast at the Pink Poodle ?
fbrant
04-21-2007, 11:05 PM
I would settle for that . . . and never look back. Youdamnbettcha! :huge:
This is their prediction: $1 to one dinar. Since it is not traded on the international market yet, as you all know, this is what they "wn" believes it will be when it comes out. Just an opinion. ;)
eatrocks
04-21-2007, 11:15 PM
i just got a million Dong in 100k notes on ebay for 99 bucks with FREE shipping
couldn't pass it up
he has 3 lots left
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=012&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&viewitem=&item=220105140116&rd=1&rd=1
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 11:15 PM
No thanks.......I already have one!:lmao:
lucky you ! Wish i had been selling dong on ebay over the weekend, prices should come back to earth by Tuesday !
Jeffro
04-21-2007, 11:16 PM
I've long since retired from it all myself (duh, it's Saturday night and I'm sitting in front of my computer) but MEMORIES !!! I'm old ! PR's ,Cadillac, remember Filthy Mcnasty's and breakfast at the Pink Poodle ?
Nothing like eggs and calf fries to assist your hangover.:D
Wolverine
04-21-2007, 11:22 PM
Nothing like eggs and calf fries to assist your hangover.:D
something about grease tends to offset the alchohol ! I still ride down to Elephant on my scooter every couple years and check out some live music, just stay in my chair & mind my business (old folks stuff) and I went to see the Bellamy Bros at BB's a few months ago (more laid back back geriatric)
ksdunlap
04-22-2007, 12:08 AM
If you only knew what Darock, Strongtower, Neno and I all knew you would not be ROFL...you would just flat out FOTF (Fall On The Floor).
Later nasty people!~ :cool: LMAO maybe
ksdunlap
04-22-2007, 12:11 AM
would like to get a hint at what you folks have between yourselves. I have been here for a while and have confidence in you and DaRock so if you could...please share at least a direction (PM me if you prefer).
Be Well,
The Good Capt'n
SGS ????????????
waiting_game
04-22-2007, 02:26 AM
I agree - what info or rumors do we really have? That they will RV based on info from a knowingly false web site.
Maybe i missed something here but I never heard any explaination for the whole "rock, Skey,neno, tower, secret conspiracy crap" either so i see nothing more than a Dong promotion... i hope i'm wrong and something is up (not just the dong!).
LMAO! Hey, can I get fries with that...:lmao:
SShhh I'm eating !
heres-hoping
04-22-2007, 04:30 AM
So let's look at this. They had the dong on their books for 2 days before now saying they have run out. Pretty pathetic excuse! And why wouldn't they just say, 'we'll get some more in guys'???
Now we know they only exchange currencies that are fully convertible and I believe on the world markets, ie Forex.
Yesterday they stated on their site they could not give an exchange rate for the dong at that time. Today you have to call them to get a rate. Why? When they are no longer exchanging it.......
We know the IMF are pushing the dong to be revalued and next week there is a big economic opening liftoff meeting on 23/24th. And a bank holiday on 26th........
Definitely does not sound coincidental all of this IMO. Maybe we will get our answer within the next week. :D
Adster, this was the same for me. ANZ here buy and sell VND (goh, that sounds like an STD). I called them Friday to place an order for 3 mil, and they told me they hadn't received their rates for the day and try back later in the arvo. Called back 3 hours later - still no rates. Needless to say I couldn't place an order that day. Will try again Monday.
Adster
04-22-2007, 04:57 AM
Adster, this was the same for me. ANZ here buy and sell VND (goh, that sounds like an STD). I called them Friday to place an order for 3 mil, and they told me they hadn't received their rates for the day and try back later in the arvo. Called back 3 hours later - still no rates. Needless to say I couldn't place an order that day. Will try again Monday.
And the site is still down HH. Did they put it on prematurely, is something about to happen for the dong, is the dong waiting for the dinar.........Questions, questions, questions! :lmao:
http://www.sbv.gov.vn/
michaelb4348
04-22-2007, 05:01 AM
suppose we gotta wait till monday now another day of waiting :(
michaelb4348
04-22-2007, 05:07 AM
i am off untill tonight now not that there will be any news worth reading now for another couple of weeks
Adster
04-22-2007, 05:11 AM
How so? IF the site stays down and they do intend to put the dong onto the Forex as has been indicated then it will happen when the markets are closed, ie now. Here in the UK the markets reopen in around 10 hours. :huge: We'll see, not holding my breath, too old in the tooth in this investment now and know better, but guess one of these days the dong as will the dinar will hit home, and all indicators are to sooner than later. :D
heres-hoping
04-22-2007, 05:58 AM
Staying positive. For now, have both currencies in the drawer locked up. Nice to take them out every now and then and play with them. :lmao:
PennStateMtnMan
04-22-2007, 12:35 PM
I would not purchase any VND. Vietnam has nothing to offer the rest of the world.
And where in the world is the "Secret Documents."
I am getting sick of the pump and dump. This site is about Iraq, not that crap in Vietnam.
H2OLover
04-22-2007, 12:46 PM
I would not purchase any VND. Vietnam has nothing to offer the rest of the world.
And where in the world is the "Secret Documents."
I am getting sick of the pump and dump. This site is about Iraq, not that crap in Vietnam.
No VND for me either...... :no:
michaelb4348
04-22-2007, 12:51 PM
But Read The Facts On Vietnam Are You Not Reading Correctly Its A Growing Place
Goes4ever
04-22-2007, 02:25 PM
I am getting sick of the pump and dump. This site is about Iraq, not that crap in Vietnam.no disrespect to your comment, but why is there a section on this forum dedicated to Vietnam:confused:
Riceboi
04-22-2007, 02:33 PM
Staying positive. For now, have both currencies in the drawer locked up. Nice to take them out every now and then and play with them. :lmao:
You can play with my Dong if ya want. :)
DareDevil1
04-22-2007, 02:41 PM
The info posted by DaRock was info that was pulled off of the other forum . It was on there friday and, correct me if I'm wrong Rock, It was determined to be a glich on that converter and it had been that way for a while...so...nothing new(pertaining to the converter in question)
ksdunlap
04-22-2007, 02:47 PM
[quote=darock0116;343132]I know I am putting my butt on the line with this one, but I wanted everyone to see this for them self!!!! We need everyones input on this one!!! I am not saying it RV'd, nor am spreading a rumor. OK this is what I found here goes:
ENOUGH SAID NEED NO MORE.
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