Doubts Grow as G.I.’s in Iraq Find Allies in Enemy Ranks

[tmorr37]

Doubts Grow as G.I.’s in Iraq Find Allies in Enemy Ranks


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/world/middleeast/28cnd-delta.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

BAGHDAD — Staff Sgt. David Safstrom does not regret his previous tours in Iraq (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iraq/index.html?inline=nyt-geo), not even a difficult second stint when two comrades were killed while trying to capture insurgents.
“In Mosul, in 2003, it felt like we were making the city a better place,” he said. “There was no sectarian violence, Saddam was gone, we were tracking down the bad guys. It felt awesome.”
But now on his third deployment in Iraq, he is no longer a believer in the mission. The pivotal moment came, he says, this past February when soldiers killed a man setting a roadside bomb. When they searched the bomber’s body, they found identification showing him to be a sergeant in the Iraqi Army.


Granted this is the NYT but If this is the way it is all is lost.
We will all know soon if all these Laws come to pass. Tmorr37

[PraiseKingGeorge]

All you need to know about this story is who the source is. Once more this treasonous dishrag of a newspaper is attempting to mold public opinion against the war to suit its' anti-war, anti-Bush position. They go out and hunt high and low for any soldier they can find who has some lingering doubts about the outcome of the war, and then project that as a seachage representation of all the military's attitude. Don't buy this garbage for a minute. Even this bird cage liner's writer had to report that the soldier at the end of the story, Sergeant Griffin, understands the nature of the mission at hand and says that the military needs to stay until the Iraqis can control things themselves.
Leave it to the New York Slimes to do a hit piece on the war using our military as props during Memorial Weekend.

[Telestar]

All you need to know about this story is who the source is. Once more this treasonous dishrag of a newspaper is attempting to mold public opinion against the war to suit its' anti-war, anti-Bush position. They go out and hunt high and low for any soldier they can find who has some lingering doubts about the outcome of the war, and then project that as a seachage representation of all the military's attitude. Don't buy this garbage for a minute. Even this bird cage liner's writer had to report that the soldier at the end of the story, Sergeant Griffin, understands the nature of the mission at hand and says that the military needs to stay until the Iraqis can control things themselves.
Leave it to the New York Slimes to do a hit piece on the war using our military as props during Memorial Weekend.



http://66.111.34.180/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=47019&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1

Gunmen clad as Iraqi army abduct police chief in Diala Diala - Voices of Iraq

Sunday , 27 /05 /2007 Time 10:59:57 </B>
By Aasem Taha Baaquba, May 27, (VOI)- Gunmen wearing an Iraqi army uniform on Sunday kidnapped a police chief at a fake checkpoint in Diala province, 57 km northeast of Baghdad, a police source said.
"Unknown gunmen forced Lieutenant Colonel Abdel Salam Rashid, director of Facilities Protection Force in Diala, at gunpoint into unknown destination after they stopped him at a fake checkpoint," the source told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
"The gunmen were wearing the Iraqi army uniform," the source added.
He said "Iraqi security forces were alerted and a wide-scale search campaign started in hunt for the gunmen."

May be true??

[PraiseKingGeorge]

http://66.111.34.180/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=47019&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1


Gunmen clad as Iraqi army abduct police chief in Diala Diala - Voices of Iraq

Sunday , 27 /05 /2007 Time 10:59:57 </B>

By Aasem Taha Baaquba, May 27, (VOI)- Gunmen wearing an Iraqi army uniform on Sunday kidnapped a police chief at a fake checkpoint in Diala province, 57 km northeast of Baghdad, a police source said.
"Unknown gunmen forced Lieutenant Colonel Abdel Salam Rashid, director of Facilities Protection Force in Diala, at gunpoint into unknown destination after they stopped him at a fake checkpoint," the source told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
"The gunmen were wearing the Iraqi army uniform," the source added.
He said "Iraqi security forces were alerted and a wide-scale search campaign started in hunt for the gunmen."



May be true??

Never said it wasn't. War isn't neat and tidy, although some think it should be.

[Anaconda_Dinar_Sheik]

But now on his third deployment in Iraq,




This soldiers on his third tour, I'm sure he is not to happy anyways....

[PraiseKingGeorge]

But now on his third deployment in Iraq,




This soldiers on his third tour, I'm sure he is not to happy anyways....

Exactly.....how about an interview with a soldier that recently enlisted, out of a patriotic sense of duty, and deployed to Iraq. Think you might get a different point of view? This is called 'shaping the story'. Blatant bias for all to see.

[Ialdoboath]

[/i][/b]how about an interview with a soldier that recently enlisted, out of a patriotic sense of duty, and deployed to Iraq. Think you might get a different point of view?

So you're saying that the greener and more inexperienced a soldier is the more likely they are to support this war?

[Telestar]

[/i][/b]

Exactly.....how about an interview with a soldier that recently enlisted, out of a patriotic sense of duty, and deployed to Iraq. Think you might get a different point of view? This is called 'shaping the story'. Blatant bias for all to see.

Aren’t we doing a little reverse shaping. There must be some balance. I don't think it is this black and white.

[Chance12345]

You can't help but get a little tired spending so much time in Iraq. More than likely the new boot going there for the first time, all wide eyed and gun ho, is going to be overwhelmingly in support of the war. Thats not to say that more seasoned aren't in support either. Like the Dinar, they realize making life in Iraq better is going to be a slow grow process. Its not always a pleasent business and some of the experiences do jade you. I feel that most military personel that have been in country do want to see this war through. They may not agree with all the reasons they're there but to pull out and give up everything they've worked for would anger them more. As for the newspaper interview, if a writer has personal agenda and wants to make a bias point they can always find the "facts" they need. Sorry for going on and on...

[rykpa]

[/i][/b]

Exactly.....how about an interview with a soldier that recently enlisted, out of a patriotic sense of duty, and deployed to Iraq. Think you might get a different point of view? This is called 'shaping the story'. Blatant bias for all to see.


*******

It's so predictible, these defeatist leftists, that it is past boring already!!!

BTW, why do we still have troops ~Bosnia from Clinton's "Wag the Dog War"???

[geowhiz]

You can't help but get a little tired spending so much time in Iraq. More than likely the new boot going there for the first time, all wide eyed and gun ho, is going to be overwhelmingly in support of the war. Thats not to say that more seasoned aren't in support either. Like the Dinar, they realize making life in Iraq better is going to be a slow grow process. Its not always a pleasent business and some of the experiences do jade you. I feel that most military personel that have been in country do want to see this war through. They may not agree with all the reasons they're there but to pull out and give up everything they've worked for would anger them more. As for the newspaper interview, if a writer has personal agenda and wants to make a bias point they can always find the "facts" they need. Sorry for going on and on...


Thats good stuff from somebody on the inside. Keep it up! I for one appreciate the inside info more than the jaded economist BS!

[PraiseKingGeorge]

So you're saying that the greener and more inexperienced a soldier is the more likely they are to support this war?

You missed the point. I was giving an example of shaping the story in the other direction. Hardly telling of the attitude of soldiers to report on extreme examples.

[PraiseKingGeorge]

Aren’t we doing a little reverse shaping. There must be some balance. I don't think it is this black and white.

Of course I was, that was my point. No balance in either example.