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Adster
07-20-2007, 06:08 PM
Iraqi Papers Sat: A Sunni President for Iraq?
Arab Papers Reveal the "Political Deal" that Returned the IAF to the Parliament
By AMER MOHSEN Posted 1 hr. 0 min. ago
Az-Zaman
Iraqi and Arab papers are abuzz with the news of the - expected - return of the Sunni “Iraqi Accord Front” the parliament, after weeks of boycott. Two Arab papers, however, claimed that there is in the IAF return, which came mere days after the Sadrist MPs resumed their participation in the parliament, more than meets the eye.
Al-Hayat said that the IAF suspended its boycott as part of a larger political deal, brokered by the US, and intended to expand the scope of Sunni participation in the political system. The London-based newspaper said that, according to “observers,” the Maliki government struck a “deal” with the parties of the opposition, “with American pressure,” in order to guarantee the support of said parties for “the passing of several laws ... chiefly the oil law and the de-Ba'thification law.”
The government, and the US behind it, is eager to promulgate these strategic legislations “in order to achieve a larger proportion of the 18 benchmarks set by the US Congress (to gauge the success of the Surge Plan,)” claimed the newspaper.
In Al-Hayat’s scenario, the Sadrists and the IAF will allow the passing of these strategic laws in exchange for certain political gains. The newspaper was not very clear, however, in describing what the quid pro quo entailed.
For one, the paper claimed, the original conflict between the Sunni coalition and the government (the parliament’s decision to unseat IAF’s Mahmud al-Mashhadani as its Speaker), will be resolved by “expanding the powers of the presidential council,” which will allow the Sunni vice-president, Tariq al-Hashimi, a larger role to play in executive decisions. Soon after these reforms come into effect, the paper continued, the IAF will choose a replacement for Mashhadani.
Second, al-Hayat said, the attributes of the (Shi'a) Prime Minister will be reduced along with his influence over the Executive, which has been a long-standing demand by the Sunni front.
The Lebanese al-Akhbar newspaper, which toes a leftist/Arab Nationalist political line, had a more “interesting” explanation for the IAF return. According to the newspaper, an American-brokered deal will give the Sunnis the presidency in the future, while the post of the Parliament Speaker will be turned over to the Kurds.
Al-Akhbar said that, according to “sources close to the centers of decision-making in Iraq,” the political institutions of the country will undergo a “radical change,” entailing the restructuring of the three presidencies (the President, the Prime Minister and the Speaker) and their attributes.
The paper added that the coming reforms were designed “by the occupational authority, in conjunction with the UN mission and the ruling establishment in Iraq.” In addition to the Sunnis “recouping” the President’s post, al-Akhbar confirmed al-Hayat’s report regarding an expansion in the attributes of the President. These reforms, the paper explained, seek to satisfy Sunni demands for greater participation, “give an increased impetus for the political process, and decrease the intensity of the resistance in Iraq.”
What proves the existence of a “deal” behind the IAF return, al-Akhbar said, is the fact that the controversial Mahmud al-Mashhadani headed the last parliamentary session without any signs of protest from the political parties that had voted him out a few weeks back.
Al-Mada also insinuated that the returning MPs (from the Sadrist and the IAF blocs) will be ratifying the controversial laws, especially those pertaining to the management of Iraq’s oil wealth and the treatment of ex-Ba'this.
Two more issues are keeping the Iraqi political scene in a gridlock: the interpretation of the 140th article of the constitution and the attributes of the president. Al-Mada said today that both controversies will be debated among the major political parties in Baghdad, in the presence of the Kurdish leader Mas'ud al-Barazani. Both matters still divide Iraqi politicians, while the Kurdish parties insist on the timely application of the 140th article of the new Iraqi constitution, (which calls for a referendum by the end of the year to decide on the fate of Kirkuk) Arab politicians are being pressured by their constituency in Kirkuk to delay the referendum. The role of the President has also been debated in Iraq as of late, especially when a Maliki aide stated that the President’s role is “honorary and ceremonial,” which elicited a strong reaction on the part of the (Kurdish) president and his allies.
Lastly, Az-Zaman persisted in its anti-Maliki campaign. The newspaper headlined both its editions today with the criticisms of US Ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, of Iraqi PM Nuri al-Maliki. According to Az-Zaman, Crocker accused al-Maliki of “runining President Bush’s chances to fulfill his commitments to Congress regarding the ‘benchmarks’ ... by next September.”
Az-Zaman also reported on a sit-in by the Shi'a Da'wa party in London. The sit-in, the paper said, demanded a stop to the illegal infiltration of Saudi nationals into Iraq, this comes after reports in the US media alleged that a large proportion of foreign fighters in Iraq are of Saudi provenance. The paper pointed out that the Da'wa party (to whom belongs Nuri al-Maliki) rarely holds such public events. Az-Zaman also reminded readers that King 'Abdullah of Saudi Arabia had “refused” to receive al-Maliki earlier this year, and that high-level Saudi officials had accused al-Maliki of enacting sectarian policies.
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3674/Iraqi_Papers_Sat_A_Sunni_President_for_Iraq
JamesbodeanAR
07-20-2007, 06:11 PM
WOOOOOO WHOOOOOOO now RV already
I hope this is right- but I am optomistic on this one.
eatrocks
07-20-2007, 06:14 PM
no doubt he struck a deal with the boycotting parties.........the deal is secret (maliki prob told them the dinar will shoot up to 3.3 US if they pass the law, then they can all resign and retire in Dubai)
this is the 2nd article i've seen so far saying a deal has been struck
the oil law and de-bath law, i saw another article stating that iraqi prez talibani is handling the constitution amendments
they have 10 days..............
LL-COOL-J
07-20-2007, 06:15 PM
Iraqi Papers Sat: A Sunni President for Iraq?
Arab Papers Reveal the "Political Deal" that Returned the IAF to the Parliament
By AMER MOHSEN Posted 1 hr. 0 min. ago
Az-Zaman
Iraqi and Arab papers are abuzz with the news of the - expected - return of the Sunni “Iraqi Accord Front” the parliament, after weeks of boycott. Two Arab papers, however, claimed that there is in the IAF return, which came mere days after the Sadrist MPs resumed their participation in the parliament, more than meets the eye.
Al-Hayat said that the IAF suspended its boycott as part of a larger political deal, brokered by the US, and intended to expand the scope of Sunni participation in the political system. The London-based newspaper said that, according to “observers,” the Maliki government struck a “deal” with the parties of the opposition, “with American pressure,” in order to guarantee the support of said parties for “the passing of several laws ... chiefly the oil law and the de-Ba'thification law.”
The government, and the US behind it, is eager to promulgate these strategic legislations “in order to achieve a larger proportion of the 18 benchmarks set by the US Congress (to gauge the success of the Surge Plan,)” claimed the newspaper.
In Al-Hayat’s scenario, the Sadrists and the IAF will allow the passing of these strategic laws in exchange for certain political gains. The newspaper was not very clear, however, in describing what the quid pro quo entailed.
For one, the paper claimed, the original conflict between the Sunni coalition and the government (the parliament’s decision to unseat IAF’s Mahmud al-Mashhadani as its Speaker), will be resolved by “expanding the powers of the presidential council,” which will allow the Sunni vice-president, Tariq al-Hashimi, a larger role to play in executive decisions. Soon after these reforms come into effect, the paper continued, the IAF will choose a replacement for Mashhadani.
Second, al-Hayat said, the attributes of the (Shi'a) Prime Minister will be reduced along with his influence over the Executive, which has been a long-standing demand by the Sunni front.
The Lebanese al-Akhbar newspaper, which toes a leftist/Arab Nationalist political line, had a more “interesting” explanation for the IAF return. According to the newspaper, an American-brokered deal will give the Sunnis the presidency in the future, while the post of the Parliament Speaker will be turned over to the Kurds.
Al-Akhbar said that, according to “sources close to the centers of decision-making in Iraq,” the political institutions of the country will undergo a “radical change,” entailing the restructuring of the three presidencies (the President, the Prime Minister and the Speaker) and their attributes.
The paper added that the coming reforms were designed “by the occupational authority, in conjunction with the UN mission and the ruling establishment in Iraq.” In addition to the Sunnis “recouping” the President’s post, al-Akhbar confirmed al-Hayat’s report regarding an expansion in the attributes of the President. These reforms, the paper explained, seek to satisfy Sunni demands for greater participation, “give an increased impetus for the political process, and decrease the intensity of the resistance in Iraq.”
What proves the existence of a “deal” behind the IAF return, al-Akhbar said, is the fact that the controversial Mahmud al-Mashhadani headed the last parliamentary session without any signs of protest from the political parties that had voted him out a few weeks back.
Al-Mada also insinuated that the returning MPs (from the Sadrist and the IAF blocs) will be ratifying the controversial laws, especially those pertaining to the management of Iraq’s oil wealth and the treatment of ex-Ba'this.
Two more issues are keeping the Iraqi political scene in a gridlock: the interpretation of the 140th article of the constitution and the attributes of the president. Al-Mada said today that both controversies will be debated among the major political parties in Baghdad, in the presence of the Kurdish leader Mas'ud al-Barazani. Both matters still divide Iraqi politicians, while the Kurdish parties insist on the timely application of the 140th article of the new Iraqi constitution, (which calls for a referendum by the end of the year to decide on the fate of Kirkuk) Arab politicians are being pressured by their constituency in Kirkuk to delay the referendum. The role of the President has also been debated in Iraq as of late, especially when a Maliki aide stated that the President’s role is “honorary and ceremonial,” which elicited a strong reaction on the part of the (Kurdish) president and his allies.
Lastly, Az-Zaman persisted in its anti-Maliki campaign. The newspaper headlined both its editions today with the criticisms of US Ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, of Iraqi PM Nuri al-Maliki. According to Az-Zaman, Crocker accused al-Maliki of “runining President Bush’s chances to fulfill his commitments to Congress regarding the ‘benchmarks’ ... by next September.”
Az-Zaman also reported on a sit-in by the Shi'a Da'wa party in London. The sit-in, the paper said, demanded a stop to the illegal infiltration of Saudi nationals into Iraq, this comes after reports in the US media alleged that a large proportion of foreign fighters in Iraq are of Saudi provenance. The paper pointed out that the Da'wa party (to whom belongs Nuri al-Maliki) rarely holds such public events. Az-Zaman also reminded readers that King 'Abdullah of Saudi Arabia had “refused” to receive al-Maliki earlier this year, and that high-level Saudi officials had accused al-Maliki of enacting sectarian policies.
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3674/Iraqi_Papers_Sat_A_Sunni_President_for_Iraq
i dont believe it ,does this mean what i think it does,i have been going through rough times
COULD IT BE GOD HAS HEARD MY PRAYERS AND MY CHANGE HAS COME
PLEASE PLEASE LET IT BE
po-cajun
07-20-2007, 06:16 PM
WOOOOOO WHOOOOOOO now RV already
I'll second that....but add CHA CHING!!!!
Thanks Adster.... Keep us updated my friend..
I don't understand why everyone was so worried?:lmao:
calstar
07-20-2007, 06:20 PM
I'm waiting for the final signature then i'll CHEER!!!! :happy26:
I'm waiting for the final signature then i'll CHEER!!!! :happy26:
Very true, you never know!
KnightsCharger
07-20-2007, 06:30 PM
Excellent article Adster!! "Observer" someone close to the process perhaps!!?.
CNN just did a report on the gas situation in Iraq, looked pretty rough, 24 hrs. in lines. I don't recall CNN or any other media talking about the hardships of the Iraqis when it came to gas supplies. The interviewees blamed the GoI and corruption. Thought the timing of the report was interesting!!! probably nothing. :cool:
crabman
07-20-2007, 06:35 PM
I sincerely hope so I too have had hard times, however I know of so many that need help so much more then me and I will, with the LORD'S Assistance, give them as we are taught to do.
I'll be waiting till' I hear it's actually a 100% done deal...;)
SEABEE CAN-DO
07-20-2007, 06:40 PM
Don''t give your Camel away yet unless you want to walk. Just another step in the long walk ahead.
DinarInMikeswrld1
07-20-2007, 06:40 PM
No telling what kind of deals were struck to get this done, but its about time.
Seems they have a couple issues other than the HCL to still work out, but it does seem things are finally moving forward.
It appears that there has been quite a bit of pressure being applied by the US to get this train back on the tracks.
Guess they needed a good boot in the butt.
John Jay
07-20-2007, 06:40 PM
Thanks for the find Adster. I have a good feeling about this one for some reason.
Riceboi
07-20-2007, 06:41 PM
Don't we hear this same thing every week or so?:confused:
oldskiier
07-20-2007, 06:42 PM
This is the most positive news in a long time !!! reconciliation and agreeing to let everyone have a pieces of the pie !!! REALLY BIG NEWS Folks !!!!!:happy64: Might have an Oil Law before the weekend is over !!!
DinarInMikeswrld1
07-20-2007, 06:44 PM
The sit-in, the paper said, demanded a stop to the illegal infiltration of Saudi nationals into Iraq, this comes after reports in the US media alleged that a large proportion of foreign fighters in Iraq are of Saudi provenance.
This is nice to see also......time to put an end to such BS
Blacize
07-20-2007, 06:45 PM
Wow, now we just wait and see lol (like we haven't been doing that the whole time). I pray that August is reval month
Dinarnewbee
07-20-2007, 06:45 PM
HEY O.S.,
MAYBE YOU'LL GET IT RIGHT THIS SUNDAY? HOPE SO:happy64: WOULD BE AWSOME!
This is the most positive news in a long time !!! reconciliation and agreeing to let everyone have a pieces of the pie !!! REALLY BIG NEWS Folks !!!!!:happy64: Might have an Oil Law before the weekend is over !!!
redvette
07-20-2007, 06:47 PM
I wonder if and when it does truely Reval, how many other banks are really on board to exchange our Dinar. Do you think that there is already other banks that have aquired some Dinar and are just keeping it secrect?
I live in PA and there is no Chase here. My thinking is when it does Reval is to wait and see what will happen a few weeks after the big news. I figure it has to start somewhere but as soon as it happens ....Bam it goes up even more....Just my thinking.
I hope this week it is announced , so they can take their stupid vacation!!:D
Valuedcheese
07-20-2007, 06:47 PM
HOLY MOTHER OF ALAH!!!!! IM SURPRISED ALL THE NAYSAYERS HAVENT TORN THIS THREAD UP YET ADSTER. i FOR ONE RESPECT YOU FOR THE GREAT POSTS YOU SUPPLY. IF IT WERE NOT FOR YOU AND ROCK AND OS, THIS PLACE WOULD BE A LIBERAL CESSPITT.
KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING POSTS BECAUSE I FOR ONE LIKE THEM...........
DinarInMikeswrld1
07-20-2007, 06:48 PM
Don't we hear this same thing every week or so?:confused:
Yes we do........
But I'm thinking this ones sounds a bit more promising.
I don't let myself get too worked up about much, but I'm feeling good about this one.
We shall see
dejavu
07-20-2007, 06:50 PM
Drawing from the Kurdistan Alliance MP Mohsen Saadoun, that the draft bill of oil had been distributed to the moment the members of the House.
في.In the meantime, the deputy pointed to the United Iraqi Alliance Abbas Bayati to reduce the likelihood of the House holiday to two weeks for the purpose of expediting the approval of the oil and gas.
إلىواحد.It should be noted that the House decided to shorten the duration of the legislative vacation scheduled to begin on the first of August next to one month. http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.radiosawa.com/arabic_news.aspx%3Fid%3D1319549%26cid%3D24
now does this say they will basically cut short the vacation to implement?:huge:
lonelyintexas
07-20-2007, 06:54 PM
Adster,
Great thanks for the post. Yes hopefully this will finally be the one we are looking for. Maybe there will be some really great press coming out of Iraq this next week.
LIT
po-cajun
07-20-2007, 06:54 PM
HOLY MOTHER OF ALAH!!!!! IM SURPRISED ALL THE NAYSAYERS HAVENT TORN THIS THREAD UP YET ADSTER. i FOR ONE RESPECT YOU FOR THE GREAT POSTS YOU SUPPLY. IF IT WERE NOT FOR YOU AND ROCK AND OS, THIS PLACE WOULD BE A LIBERAL CESSPITT.
KEEP UP THE OUTSTANDING POSTS BECAUSE I FOR ONE LIKE THEM...........
Don't worry -- they are coming--bet on it!!! BHAAAA!!!!!
DinarInMikeswrld1
07-20-2007, 06:55 PM
Drawing from the Kurdistan Alliance MP Mohsen Saadoun, that the draft bill of oil had been distributed to the moment the members of the House.
في.In the meantime, the deputy pointed to the United Iraqi Alliance Abbas Bayati to reduce the likelihood of the House holiday to two weeks for the purpose of expediting the approval of the oil and gas.
إلىواحد.It should be noted that the House decided to shorten the duration of the legislative vacation scheduled to begin on the first of August next to one month. http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.radiosawa.com/arabic_news.aspx%3Fid%3D1319549%26cid%3D24
now does this say they will basically cut short the vacation to implement?:huge:
Sounds that way......will wonders never cease??
starman
07-20-2007, 06:55 PM
You're coming up with the goods my friend.
Great article...great find....GREAT NEWS !
These people must get their act together once and for all for all concerned...
I really hope that THIS TIME...we are near the end and that we will be rewarded for our patience and loyalty to our investment !
Much energy,
DinarInMikeswrld1
07-20-2007, 06:58 PM
Drawing from the Kurdistan Alliance MP Mohsen Saadoun, that the draft bill of oil had been distributed to the moment the members of the House.
في.In the meantime, the deputy pointed to the United Iraqi Alliance Abbas Bayati to reduce the likelihood of the House holiday to two weeks for the purpose of expediting the approval of the oil and gas.
إلىواحد.It should be noted that the House decided to shorten the duration of the legislative vacation scheduled to begin on the first of August next to one month. http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ar%7Cen&u=http://www.radiosawa.com/arabic_news.aspx%3Fid%3D1319549%26cid%3D24
now does this say they will basically cut short the vacation to implement?:huge:
Sounds that way......will wonders never cease??
Perhaps they are finally getting serious about this......maybe they too are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel
Iraqi Papers Sat: A Sunni President for Iraq?
Arab Papers Reveal the "Political Deal" that Returned the IAF to the Parliament
By AMER MOHSEN Posted 1 hr. 0 min. ago
Az-Zaman
Iraqi and Arab papers are abuzz with the news of the - expected - return of the Sunni “Iraqi Accord Front” the parliament, after weeks of boycott. Two Arab papers, however, claimed that there is in the IAF return, which came mere days after the Sadrist MPs resumed their participation in the parliament, more than meets the eye.
Al-Hayat said that the IAF suspended its boycott as part of a larger political deal, brokered by the US, and intended to expand the scope of Sunni participation in the political system. The London-based newspaper said that, according to “observers,” the Maliki government struck a “deal” with the parties of the opposition, “with American pressure,” in order to guarantee the support of said parties for “the passing of several laws ... chiefly the oil law and the de-Ba'thification law.”
The government, and the US behind it, is eager to promulgate these strategic legislations “in order to achieve a larger proportion of the 18 benchmarks set by the US Congress (to gauge the success of the Surge Plan,)” claimed the newspaper.
In Al-Hayat’s scenario, the Sadrists and the IAF will allow the passing of these strategic laws in exchange for certain political gains. The newspaper was not very clear, however, in describing what the quid pro quo entailed.
For one, the paper claimed, the original conflict between the Sunni coalition and the government (the parliament’s decision to unseat IAF’s Mahmud al-Mashhadani as its Speaker), will be resolved by “expanding the powers of the presidential council,” which will allow the Sunni vice-president, Tariq al-Hashimi, a larger role to play in executive decisions. Soon after these reforms come into effect, the paper continued, the IAF will choose a replacement for Mashhadani.
Second, al-Hayat said, the attributes of the (Shi'a) Prime Minister will be reduced along with his influence over the Executive, which has been a long-standing demand by the Sunni front.
The Lebanese al-Akhbar newspaper, which toes a leftist/Arab Nationalist political line, had a more “interesting” explanation for the IAF return. According to the newspaper, an American-brokered deal will give the Sunnis the presidency in the future, while the post of the Parliament Speaker will be turned over to the Kurds.
Al-Akhbar said that, according to “sources close to the centers of decision-making in Iraq,” the political institutions of the country will undergo a “radical change,” entailing the restructuring of the three presidencies (the President, the Prime Minister and the Speaker) and their attributes.
The paper added that the coming reforms were designed “by the occupational authority, in conjunction with the UN mission and the ruling establishment in Iraq.” In addition to the Sunnis “recouping” the President’s post, al-Akhbar confirmed al-Hayat’s report regarding an expansion in the attributes of the President. These reforms, the paper explained, seek to satisfy Sunni demands for greater participation, “give an increased impetus for the political process, and decrease the intensity of the resistance in Iraq.”
What proves the existence of a “deal” behind the IAF return, al-Akhbar said, is the fact that the controversial Mahmud al-Mashhadani headed the last parliamentary session without any signs of protest from the political parties that had voted him out a few weeks back.
Al-Mada also insinuated that the returning MPs (from the Sadrist and the IAF blocs) will be ratifying the controversial laws, especially those pertaining to the management of Iraq’s oil wealth and the treatment of ex-Ba'this.
Two more issues are keeping the Iraqi political scene in a gridlock: the interpretation of the 140th article of the constitution and the attributes of the president. Al-Mada said today that both controversies will be debated among the major political parties in Baghdad, in the presence of the Kurdish leader Mas'ud al-Barazani. Both matters still divide Iraqi politicians, while the Kurdish parties insist on the timely application of the 140th article of the new Iraqi constitution, (which calls for a referendum by the end of the year to decide on the fate of Kirkuk) Arab politicians are being pressured by their constituency in Kirkuk to delay the referendum. The role of the President has also been debated in Iraq as of late, especially when a Maliki aide stated that the President’s role is “honorary and ceremonial,” which elicited a strong reaction on the part of the (Kurdish) president and his allies.
Lastly, Az-Zaman persisted in its anti-Maliki campaign. The newspaper headlined both its editions today with the criticisms of US Ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, of Iraqi PM Nuri al-Maliki. According to Az-Zaman, Crocker accused al-Maliki of “runining President Bush’s chances to fulfill his commitments to Congress regarding the ‘benchmarks’ ... by next September.”
Az-Zaman also reported on a sit-in by the Shi'a Da'wa party in London. The sit-in, the paper said, demanded a stop to the illegal infiltration of Saudi nationals into Iraq, this comes after reports in the US media alleged that a large proportion of foreign fighters in Iraq are of Saudi provenance. The paper pointed out that the Da'wa party (to whom belongs Nuri al-Maliki) rarely holds such public events. Az-Zaman also reminded readers that King 'Abdullah of Saudi Arabia had “refused” to receive al-Maliki earlier this year, and that high-level Saudi officials had accused al-Maliki of enacting sectarian policies.
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3674/Iraqi_Papers_Sat_A_Sunni_President_for_Iraq
Thanks for posting....best news I've seen for awhile!! It also points out the legal rights of the UN and occupational authority in this process!
yunowu
07-20-2007, 07:09 PM
no doubt he struck a deal with the boycotting parties.........the deal is secret (maliki prob told them the dinar will shoot up to 3.3 US if they pass the law, then they can all resign and retire in Dubai)
this is the 2nd article i've seen so far saying a deal has been struck
the oil law and de-bath law, i saw another article stating that iraqi prez talibani is handling the constitution amendments
they have 10 days..............
If it is $ 3.22, we all can retire in Dubai !! :lmao: :lmao:
John Jay
07-20-2007, 07:11 PM
Ashraf Qazi confirms that Iraq has completed approximately 75% of its
Held today, Wednesday, in the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister special meeting to discuss the draft report, semi-annual and special assess the achievements and constraints of the International Covenant document endorsed by the international community at the Sharm el-Sheikh.
The meeting was chaired by Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih and Ambassador Ashraf Qazi, the Special Representative of the Secretary-General of the United Nations in Iraq and attended the Iraqi government, Dr. Muwaffaq Al-Rubaie, national security adviser Mr. statement Jabr Al-Zubaydi
Finance Minister and Chairman of the Presidential Office and the Cabinet Secretary-General and the Under-Secretary, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Dr. Mohammed Haj Hammoud,
and the official spokesman of the Iraqi government and the ambassadors and representatives of the United States of America, the United Kingdom, Australia, Italy, France, Japan, Iran, Turkey, Greece, Germany, Poland and Wallathad Union, Switzerland, Canada and Aljic, Korea, the Netherlands and the World Bank.
The distribution of the report at the meeting and discussed with partners in the development of Iraq and the report includes a detailed descrïption of the achievement levels by the Iraqi government for the implementation of the International Covenant document.
It is hoped the report in its final launch on the 20th of this month at the United Nations Headquarters in New York.
Then hold Dr. Barham Salih, Ambassador Ashraf Qazi held a press conference in this regard, said the Deputy Prime Minister that the Iraqi government is serious in implementing the commitments made last May during the Sharm Al Sheikh conference and the government began to move approximately 400 political activity, security and economic criteria established during that conference, describing the achievements as being actively pursued by the government to meet its commitments made at about the reciprocal obligations of the international community.
Throw this in the mix and we may have an RV this Sunday. :happy64:
SEABEE CAN-DO
07-20-2007, 07:12 PM
I sure hope something happens soon. my house is ready to buy, http://homes.realtor.com/prop/1074170482
I have always said 09 for a good value but part of me thinks this year.... I hate to see my home get sold. I could almost trade my dump home in ca for this . Amazing how inflated CA is.
Can't get Right
07-20-2007, 07:16 PM
This is all good news, but........
When I see the Iraqi Dinar on the Forex, that's when I will jump for joy, get my hopes up, start looking at charities, etc!
Then & only then!
I love all of the positive news, but nothing is set in stone with these guys. The Media machine is just a way the government(s) control peoples thoughts. We will know when we know. When you can go to most banks & airports & exchange dinar freely, that is when we have truly meet our destination! Go Dinar!
I didn't bash anyone, so I don't expect to get bashed. I'm in it to win it like everyone else. I'm just a simple guy. If you tell me your going to lend me 100,000 dinar & you don't, but will....what good is it to tell me that you will?
Sure Thing
07-20-2007, 07:25 PM
It appears all of the badgering by the U.S. is starting to generate positive results.
Keep the pressure on these slackers. The U.S. Taxpayers are running out of patience.
Dinamama
07-20-2007, 07:27 PM
:happy64: :happy64: HIP HIP HOORAY!!! Great Post Adster!!:happy64: :happy64:
My Husband set his Vacation time starting July 31st way back in January before we even knew about the Dinar. Coincidence, I sure hope so!!!!!! :lmao:
JamesbodeanAR
07-20-2007, 07:30 PM
I sincerely hope so I too have had hard times, however I know of so many that need help so much more then me and I will, with the LORD'S Assistance, give them as we are taught to do. plus our troops
Ditto Crabman
Howler
07-20-2007, 07:37 PM
The sit-in, the paper said, demanded a stop to the illegal infiltration of Saudi nationals into Iraq, this comes after reports in the US media alleged that a large proportion of foreign fighters in Iraq are of Saudi provenance.
This is nice to see also......time to put an end to such BS
The Saudi's are pretty cheesed off about the possibility of playing "second fiddle" to Iraq. I am sure they were sending more than suicide bombers to Baghdad. More like truckloads of cash for parliment members that did what they want.
Luminous
07-20-2007, 07:41 PM
I sure hope something happens soon. my house is ready to buy, http://homes.realtor.com/prop/1074170482
I have always said 09 for a good value but part of me thinks this year.... I hate to see my home get sold. I could almost trade my dump home in ca for this . Amazing how inflated CA is.
Yeah!, Seebee why is Ca like that? When I first got into this I was daydreamin' and I looked for a nice property in CA to have as a base when I visit family. Needless to say some are shacks and in the 200's. Outrageous and ugly...no offense.
Wolverine
07-20-2007, 07:43 PM
:happy64: :happy64: :happy64:
:happy64: :happy64:
:happy64: :happy64: :happy64:
SEABEE CAN-DO
07-20-2007, 07:49 PM
Yeah!, Seebee why is Ca like that? When I first got into this I was daydreamin' and I looked for a nice property in CA to have as a base when I visit family. Needless to say some are shacks and in the 200's. Outrageous and ugly...no offense.
I don't know why.... you have to have a home here to move up in a home here. I have a nice home just don't like the neighborhood. it is basically 200k per 1000sf. in my town. and little yards.
Howler
07-20-2007, 07:52 PM
I don't know why.... you have to have a home here to move up in a home here. I have a nice home just don't like the neighborhood. it is basically 200k per 1000sf. in my town. and little yards.
Thats insane!!!:eek:
I'll allways stay in the mid-west. (well as a home base anyway:lmao: )
Luminous
07-20-2007, 07:54 PM
Yeah little yards. 200's goes along way in the south. Oh and so as not to derail the post...wayto go Adster I'm feelin' this one!!
DinarDuane
07-20-2007, 08:02 PM
Don't we hear this same thing every week or so?:confused:
Quit yer snivlin'
I know it seems to be in vogue this week, but this is a great article.
doobiedude
07-20-2007, 08:18 PM
I'll second that....but add CHA CHING!!!!
Thanks Adster.... Keep us updated my friend..
Don't you mean WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!! :lmao: :drunk: I still hate the sound of that, Cha Ching is the best.
DinarDuane
07-20-2007, 08:29 PM
Don't you mean WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!! :lmao: :drunk: I still hate the sound of that, Cha Ching is the best.
Cha Ching works! When I hear Cha Ching in my head, no doubt anyone near me will hear a thud when I hit the floor, and the next thing I hear will be "wake up ... are you okay?"
RotaryRevn
07-20-2007, 08:50 PM
Did someone mention RV sunday? :shhh:
j/k:lmao:
jimbo
07-20-2007, 08:51 PM
I'll be waiting till' I hear it's actually a 100% done deal...;)
AAD I agree. I have had so many disappointment in the last year. With all the bogust news. Example last week or before Adster came out with a good thread that stated the HCL has passed and a week later they talke as if it didn't and now you're reading they struck a deal and it pass again! I'm just going to take this as a Rumor! Even though I am a positive person I'll just assumed it never did.
GeorgiaGal
07-20-2007, 08:58 PM
I have a feeling they are for real this time. Now, Gods Speed Please!
musclesjw
07-20-2007, 08:59 PM
hoping for the best.......................J.C.W.H
New Hampshire Ned
07-20-2007, 09:01 PM
Quit yer snivlin'
I know it seems to be in vogue this week, but this is a great article.
HA! :lmao:
Great article indeed! Unfortunately, it's one of many of a long list over the past couple of years. Remember last week? The HCL had been passed and the RV was going to happen on Monday! :happy64: :happy64: :happy64:
Stout Hearted Man
07-20-2007, 09:01 PM
Drawing from the Kurdistan Alliance MP Mohsen Saadoun, that the draft bill of oil had been distributed to the moment the members of the House.
في.In the meantime, the deputy pointed to the United Iraqi Alliance Abbas Bayati to reduce the likelihood of the House holiday to two weeks for the purpose of expediting the approval of the oil and gas.
إلىواحد.It should be noted that the House decided to shorten the duration of the legislative vacation scheduled to begin on the first of August next to one month. http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ar7Cen&u=http://www.radiosawa.com/arabic_news.aspx%3Fid%3D1319549%26cid%3D24
now does this say they will basically cut short the vacation to implement? :huge:
Its sounds like they reduced their vacation from 2 months to 1, then to 2 weeks.
Does that sound right to anyone else? :cool:
jimbo
07-20-2007, 09:04 PM
I have a feeling they are for real this time. Now, Gods Speed Please!
GeorgiaGal, I agree very much too! I know my last post said I don't want to get my hopes up, however how can you not!!! This news is
:happy64: :happy64: HUGH:happy64: :happy64: !!!HUGH!!!:happy64: :happy64: HUGH!!!!!:happy64: :happy64:
Welp their I go again getting excited!!!!
i dont believe it ,does this mean what i think it does,i have been going through rough times
COULD IT BE GOD HAS HEARD MY PRAYERS AND MY CHANGE HAS COME
PLEASE PLEASE LET IT BE
You and me both brother..... I wish you well :happy64:
doobiedude
07-20-2007, 09:21 PM
If it is $ 3.22, we all can retire in Dubai !! :lmao: :lmao:
You are joking right, Dubai? Have you ever looked at a map of Dubai? It is a stones throw across the channel from Iran which means that you will encounter a TON of Radioactive Fallout when Israel/USA nukes the heck out of Iran!! :happy64: I am heading for Portugal.
GeorgiaGal
07-20-2007, 09:22 PM
Jimbo,womans premonition says YES its hugh!
25KaratDinar
07-20-2007, 09:25 PM
Great news Adster! Lets hope we don't roll a seven again.......craps... and start this HCL from scratch again. I have been on my RV no-sleep strike for five days now and I am starting to see things..............:o
Did someone mention RV sunday? :shhh:
j/k:lmao:
It's kind of like talking about a perfect game in baseball before the game is over.....:shhh:
EPIC Dinar
07-20-2007, 10:17 PM
WOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!
Cyberkhan
07-20-2007, 10:31 PM
Loving in Adster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Excellent find. Here's to gettin er done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scootarth
07-20-2007, 10:34 PM
I agree! very HUGH!:huge: :eek:
MEALTICKET
07-20-2007, 10:47 PM
Iraqi Papers Sat: A Sunni President for Iraq?
Arab Papers Reveal the "Political Deal" that Returned the IAF to the Parliament
By AMER MOHSEN Posted 1 hr. 0 min. ago
Az-Zaman
Iraqi and Arab papers are abuzz with the news of the - expected - return of the Sunni “Iraqi Accord Front” the parliament, after weeks of boycott. Two Arab papers, however, claimed that there is in the IAF return, which came mere days after the Sadrist MPs resumed their participation in the parliament, more than meets the eye.
Al-Hayat said that the IAF suspended its boycott as part of a larger political deal, brokered by the US, and intended to expand the scope of Sunni participation in the political system. The London-based newspaper said that, according to “observers,” the Maliki government struck a “deal” with the parties of the opposition, “with American pressure,” in order to guarantee the support of said parties for “the passing of several laws ... chiefly the oil law and the de-Ba'thification law.”
The government, and the US behind it, is eager to promulgate these strategic legislations “in order to achieve a larger proportion of the 18 benchmarks set by the US Congress (to gauge the success of the Surge Plan,)” claimed the newspaper.
In Al-Hayat’s scenario, the Sadrists and the IAF will allow the passing of these strategic laws in exchange for certain political gains. The newspaper was not very clear, however, in describing what the quid pro quo entailed.
For one, the paper claimed, the original conflict between the Sunni coalition and the government (the parliament’s decision to unseat IAF’s Mahmud al-Mashhadani as its Speaker), will be resolved by “expanding the powers of the presidential council,” which will allow the Sunni vice-president, Tariq al-Hashimi, a larger role to play in executive decisions. Soon after these reforms come into effect, the paper continued, the IAF will choose a replacement for Mashhadani.
Second, al-Hayat said, the attributes of the (Shi'a) Prime Minister will be reduced along with his influence over the Executive, which has been a long-standing demand by the Sunni front.
The Lebanese al-Akhbar newspaper, which toes a leftist/Arab Nationalist political line, had a more “interesting” explanation for the IAF return. According to the newspaper, an American-brokered deal will give the Sunnis the presidency in the future, while the post of the Parliament Speaker will be turned over to the Kurds.
Al-Akhbar said that, according to “sources close to the centers of decision-making in Iraq,” the political institutions of the country will undergo a “radical change,” entailing the restructuring of the three presidencies (the President, the Prime Minister and the Speaker) and their attributes.
The paper added that the coming reforms were designed “by the occupational authority, in conjunction with the UN mission and the ruling establishment in Iraq.” In addition to the Sunnis “recouping” the President’s post, al-Akhbar confirmed al-Hayat’s report regarding an expansion in the attributes of the President. These reforms, the paper explained, seek to satisfy Sunni demands for greater participation, “give an increased impetus for the political process, and decrease the intensity of the resistance in Iraq.”
What proves the existence of a “deal” behind the IAF return, al-Akhbar said, is the fact that the controversial Mahmud al-Mashhadani headed the last parliamentary session without any signs of protest from the political parties that had voted him out a few weeks back.
Al-Mada also insinuated that the returning MPs (from the Sadrist and the IAF blocs) will be ratifying the controversial laws, especially those pertaining to the management of Iraq’s oil wealth and the treatment of ex-Ba'this.
Two more issues are keeping the Iraqi political scene in a gridlock: the interpretation of the 140th article of the constitution and the attributes of the president. Al-Mada said today that both controversies will be debated among the major political parties in Baghdad, in the presence of the Kurdish leader Mas'ud al-Barazani. Both matters still divide Iraqi politicians, while the Kurdish parties insist on the timely application of the 140th article of the new Iraqi constitution, (which calls for a referendum by the end of the year to decide on the fate of Kirkuk) Arab politicians are being pressured by their constituency in Kirkuk to delay the referendum. The role of the President has also been debated in Iraq as of late, especially when a Maliki aide stated that the President’s role is “honorary and ceremonial,” which elicited a strong reaction on the part of the (Kurdish) president and his allies.
Lastly, Az-Zaman persisted in its anti-Maliki campaign. The newspaper headlined both its editions today with the criticisms of US Ambassador to Iraq, Ryan Crocker, of Iraqi PM Nuri al-Maliki. According to Az-Zaman, Crocker accused al-Maliki of “runining President Bush’s chances to fulfill his commitments to Congress regarding the ‘benchmarks’ ... by next September.”
Az-Zaman also reported on a sit-in by the Shi'a Da'wa party in London. The sit-in, the paper said, demanded a stop to the illegal infiltration of Saudi nationals into Iraq, this comes after reports in the US media alleged that a large proportion of foreign fighters in Iraq are of Saudi provenance. The paper pointed out that the Da'wa party (to whom belongs Nuri al-Maliki) rarely holds such public events. Az-Zaman also reminded readers that King 'Abdullah of Saudi Arabia had “refused” to receive al-Maliki earlier this year, and that high-level Saudi officials had accused al-Maliki of enacting sectarian policies.
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3674/Iraqi_Papers_Sat_A_Sunni_President_for_Iraq
I wounder how creditable this is!! Where is CNN's Micheal Ware now!!!:shhh:
garthstar
07-21-2007, 12:20 AM
:huge: thanks adster thats music to my dinar tired brain...
lets hope all the right palms have been greased, and now quickly the well oiled oil corruption machine starts to spew out profits for all in the know (and screw the rest-!)
man is it nice to b on the winning side of the fence of this one financially, (even if our lovely earth's environment definately isnt...!)
theres just one piece missing, an important piece not mentioned at all in the deal tho....
OS and SGS have not been mentioned at all....
thats a worry.... surely they got to be involved for this to happen....
Theodora
07-21-2007, 01:10 AM
Key points:
1)The weeks of banning the GOI by the sunnis has finished few days ago.
2)Cutting Short the vacation to only 2 weeks in order to complete Oil law.
3)Secret agreement for support by all side to the oil law.
4)ISX opens on 2nd of Aug for Forigners + Oct goes electronically.
5)Abnormal pressure to make major changes before Sept (When General Petraus give his report to Washington.
It's coming guys... Let's just wait n' see :happy64:
mike55
07-21-2007, 01:16 AM
The closer we get to the Sept. report, the more will happen. The GOI knows that if it's all bad news, money will start to dry up and troop support is in dire jeopardy. I feel that many laws will be passed and many more stout promises will be made in the next 5 weeks. Iraqi media will be flush with the right news for perception of milestones being met and ones soon to be met.
Right now is the last chance to gain some sort of confidence from the coalition members and monetary funds. Then, they will get another 6 months to procrastinate.
However, having said that, if they do pass and implement the economic/social laws and join the world community in the next 3-6 months........it will not be with a third world country exchange rate........
Ialdoboath
07-21-2007, 01:31 AM
I really do think all the laws will be passed in the next 2 weeks. What I'd really love to know, though, is how many of the Iraqi parliamentarians are
right there with us checking the housing markets in Portugal, California, and Dubai.
If this rv's, do not be surprised to find your new next door neighbor speaks farci.
Arctec
07-21-2007, 01:34 AM
If this rv's, do not be surprised to find your new next door neighbor speaks farci
Not mine.:) :)
rykpa
07-21-2007, 03:36 AM
parties giving their endorsement of this WONDERFUL action???
:confused::confused::confused:
They have been opposed to an oil law, from what I gather.
The Saud's are pretty cheesed off about the possibility of playing "second fiddle" to Iraq. I am sure they were sending more than suicide bombers to Baghdad. More like truckloads of cash for Parliament members that did what they want.
howler, I think you are spot on!!! GREAT OBSERVATION! and I think some people might be missing a big point here. it is not only about the ineptness of the goi, but the terror and uneasiness that the countries like Saudi arabia,dubai,u.a.e, and the other major oil holders of the gulf region are feeling. They all know that if Iraq succeeds in getting itself on track, it will become the leader in oil revenues. if not the leader, then a close second,imo.
with all the undiscovered oil fields there, they are poised to become THE major player in the middle east. you think that the Saudi's are going to take that laying down? heck no!,imo. THAT,imo, is what is fueling the terrorists. they are backed and funded by the Saudi's( maybe through Syria) and some of the other OPEC nations. they do not want to see their positions weakened by the Iraqi oil market. gas will become cheaper,and they will lose billions of dollars. unless they decide to limit production,of course.;)
but I think that all of the other other Arab oil producing nations are " covertly" funding the terrorists and paying off the Iraqi government to sabotage the progress in Iraq. I think that this explains alot of the corruption by the goi,and the unwillingness to get things done. I also believe that inevitably, these guys are looking/trying to strike a deal for a payoff from the " secret governments" that they are receiving payoffs from, to be secure in their "retirement". BEFORE they will decide on laws. if they are rich, that is all they care about.
I do think that the sabotage by the saudi's will continue even after the major laws are passed. they know that time is up and they have to pay people off.now they need a new game plan to keep up the sabotage.since they are losing their "payees"they will probably have to just blame it on "al-qaeda". great friends of the U.S.-huh!.. all this is just my opinion,let me say again,MY OPPINION, but to me it makes sense as to why things haven't gotten anywhere........................kyle
DinarDuane
07-21-2007, 03:50 AM
parties giving their endorsement of this WONDERFUL action???
:confused::confused::confused:
They have been opposed to an oil law, from what I gather.
Oh, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE ..............
WellFedMonkey
07-21-2007, 04:05 AM
WA WA WEE WA!
You don't get online for over half a day and what happens? You miss fantastic news like this. I salute you Adster!
Now, hopefully my Fedex package makes it to the bank!
heres-hoping
07-21-2007, 05:03 AM
I sure wish this is indeed it. Gone through so many different emotions on this ride that half the time I don't know whether I'm here nor there.
Adster
07-21-2007, 05:08 AM
http://www.radiosawa.com/arabic_news.aspx?id=1319549&cid=24
20/07/2007 15:33 (GMT)
Drawing from the Kurdistan Alliance MP Mohsen Saadoun, that the draft bill of oil had been distributed to the moment the members of the House.
Parliamentary sources : the oil and gas had been distributed so far to the members of the House of Representatives
In the meantime, the deputy pointed to the United Iraqi Alliance Abbas Bayati to reduce the likelihood of the House holiday to two weeks for the purpose of expediting the approval of the oil and gas.
It should be noted that the House decided to shorten the duration of the legislative vacation scheduled to begin on the first of August next to one month.
مراسل "راديو سوا" في بغداد عمر حمّادي والتفاصيل:Correspondent "Radio Sawa" in Baghdad Omar Hammadi and details :
REITman
07-21-2007, 05:10 AM
Key points:
1)The weeks of banning the GOI by the sunnis has finished few days ago.
2)Cutting Short the vacation to only 2 weeks in order to complete Oil law.
3)Secret agreement for support by all side to the oil law.
4)ISX opens on 2nd of Aug for Forigners + Oct goes electronically.
5)Abnormal pressure to make major changes before Sept (When General Petraus give his report to Washington.
It's coming guys... Let's just wait n' see :happy64:
Nicely put Theodora. http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Happy/happy-thumbs-up-050.gif
heres-hoping
07-21-2007, 05:12 AM
Pass the laws, increase the value of the currency and then extend their vacation to how ever long they want.
Adster
07-21-2007, 05:14 AM
This is good news. There was an article a few days ago stated the returning blocs would 'go with the flow' so to speak with the passage of laws. Palms have been greased to get this done. ;)
British Bulldog
07-21-2007, 05:19 AM
This is good news. There was an article a few days ago stated the returning blocs would 'go with the flow' so to speak with the passage of laws. Palms have been greased to get this done. ;)
Palm greasing is a part of their culture, all our governments do it on daily basis, that's politics. Money talks and all that. Pay em and get those laws passed.
Just_Sayin
07-21-2007, 05:38 AM
Thanks Adster!
Here's what makes me really like this article:
1) Cites several corroberating sources
2) Other newspapers are reporting (without simply re-running) the story
3) Some of the other papers have a bias that leans away from the issue
4) One of the newspapers cited was a London-based paper
5) In-line with other facts we know (Mookie's return, parliament speaker unpopular, short vacations, etc.)
These things, in my mind, make this report head & shoulders above the credibility of some of the other news we've been getting lately. Excellent find!
Just_Sayin
oldskiier
07-21-2007, 05:44 AM
Sunni Party Insists Boycott Will Continue - National Dialogue Front "Will Not Return to Parliament Yet"
The National Dialogue Front (NDF) said it clings to its position suspending membership in the Iraqi parliament, adding it would continue pressing the government to "modify the course" of the political process, an NDF spokesman said on Friday, Voices of Iraq reports. "The NDF's decision coincided with the draft law on sacking Speaker Dr. Mahmoud al-Mashhadani but we had expressed our wish to suspend membership months ago," Haidar al-Mulla told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI) over the phone.
The predominantly Sunni Arab political front, led by Saleh al-Mutlak (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2886%20to%20saleh%20al-mutlak), "has nothing to do with the decision of the Sunni Tawafuq Front to end its boycott of parliament," said Mulla.
Tawafuq attended Thursday's session of the Iraqi parliament after a boycott of two weeks (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3648/Sunni_Bloc_Return) in protest against sacking Mashhadani, an IAF member.
A number of deputies called for relieving Mashhadani after his bodyguards assaulted an MP from the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition (UIC), the largest bloc in the Iraqi parliament with 115 seats out of a total 275 seats, last June.
Mulla said the NDF, which has 11 seats, might change its position "if matters required our return to parliament or if we viewed that some blocs were seeking to have certain draft laws that pose a threat against the country's future and political process passed."
He did not elaborate on these draft laws but one of the draft laws is referring to is very likely to be the controversial Iraqi oil bill (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3655/Oil_Law_Iraqi_Government_in_Limbo).
On Thursday Mashhadani called upon the Sunni National Dialogue Front to end suspension of its membership in parliament and return as soon as possible. (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3662/Speaker_Calls_for_Sunni_Party_to_End_Boycott)
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3678/Sunni_Party_Insists_Boycott_Will_Continue (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3662/Speaker_Calls_for_Sunni_Party_to_End_Boycott)
Adster
07-21-2007, 06:04 AM
Sunni Party Insists Boycott Will Continue - National Dialogue Front "Will Not Return to Parliament Yet"
The National Dialogue Front (NDF) said it clings to its position suspending membership in the Iraqi parliament, adding it would continue pressing the government to "modify the course" of the political process, an NDF spokesman said on Friday, Voices of Iraq reports. "The NDF's decision coincided with the draft law on sacking Speaker Dr. Mahmoud al-Mashhadani but we had expressed our wish to suspend membership months ago," Haidar al-Mulla told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI) over the phone.
The predominantly Sunni Arab political front, led by Saleh al-Mutlak (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/2886%20to%20saleh%20al-mutlak), "has nothing to do with the decision of the Sunni Tawafuq Front to end its boycott of parliament," said Mulla.
Tawafuq attended Thursday's session of the Iraqi parliament after a boycott of two weeks (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3648/Sunni_Bloc_Return) in protest against sacking Mashhadani, an IAF member.
A number of deputies called for relieving Mashhadani after his bodyguards assaulted an MP from the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition (UIC), the largest bloc in the Iraqi parliament with 115 seats out of a total 275 seats, last June.
Mulla said the NDF, which has 11 seats, might change its position "if matters required our return to parliament or if we viewed that some blocs were seeking to have certain draft laws that pose a threat against the country's future and political process passed."
He did not elaborate on these draft laws but one of the draft laws is referring to is very likely to be the controversial Iraqi oil bill (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3655/Oil_Law_Iraqi_Government_in_Limbo).
On Thursday Mashhadani called upon the Sunni National Dialogue Front to end suspension of its membership in parliament and return as soon as possible. (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3662/Speaker_Calls_for_Sunni_Party_to_End_Boycott)
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3678/Sunni_Party_Insists_Boycott_Will_Continue (http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/3662/Speaker_Calls_for_Sunni_Party_to_End_Boycott)
They don't have enough pull/clout/seats to stop this thing passing. :D
wherbie
07-21-2007, 06:18 AM
Hey...Seebee...
nice digs...550K buys a nice spread in MS....how far is it from Gulf shore's AL...which is where I am headed...same same
.IMHO
I like the Idea of the Kurdish PM...we need more Kurd participation in the Congress...they dont like the Shi or Sun...much and dont trust em as far as they can throw them
.
I sure wish this is indeed it. Gone through so many different emotions on this ride that half the time I don't know whether I'm here nor there.
Well I'm here and you're there :) Or swap that about for your perspective !!
Adster
07-21-2007, 06:42 AM
Nice find from kiko.
Objections from several parties after the ratification of the draft law of oil and gas audio
اعداد و تقديم: ليث أحمد – بغدادPreparation and submission : Leith Ahmed-Baghdad
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iraqhurr.org%2Fprogra ms%2Fcorrespondents%2F&langpair=ar%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8
Ad is this another draft they're complaining about ??
Adster
07-21-2007, 06:50 AM
Ad is this another draft they're complaining about ??
Garf, this is suggesting it's been passed but we read this before so not counting chickens yet! Want to be reading plenty of confirmations from reliable sources. :D
wise decision :)
Considering I temporarily offloaded excuse me for hoping for same old GOI rhetoric :)
Adster
07-21-2007, 06:58 AM
wise decision :)
Considering I temporarily offloaded excuse me for hoping for same old GOI rhetoric :)
Dangerous game my friend, dangerous game. :eek: :eek: :eek:
Rving
07-21-2007, 07:08 AM
i dont believe it ,does this mean what i think it does,i have been going through rough times
COULD IT BE GOD HAS HEARD MY PRAYERS AND MY CHANGE HAS COME
PLEASE PLEASE LET IT BE
Cool J
it looks as if you are a godly man..... lets not forget God tests you to build your Faith! It could be your praying for the wrong thing.... I surely hope your rough times get better ... We must all go through the Valleys to reach the Peaks.... Please remember to tithe......
Dangerous game my friend, dangerous game. :eek: :eek: :eek:
The means justify the ends !
Sure Thing
07-21-2007, 07:22 AM
wise decision :)
Considering I temporarily offloaded excuse me for hoping for same old GOI rhetoric :)
You kept something on hand, just in case, didn't you? :confused:
You kept something on hand, just in case, didn't you? :confused:
Stocks... not a heck of a lot though. They might go too if nothing happens by say year's end.
REITman
07-21-2007, 07:38 AM
Dangerous game my friend, dangerous game. :eek: :eek: :eek:
You got that right Adster!
PLAYING WITH FIRE!
http://www.digital-church.com/Archived/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/fire07.jpg
jimbo
07-21-2007, 08:22 AM
Cool J
it looks as if you are a godly man..... lets not forget God tests you to build your Faith! It could be your praying for the wrong thing.... I surely hope your rough times get better ... We must all go through the Valleys to reach the Peaks.... Please remember to tithe......
I was driving down the street about 4 weeks ago and had avery unusual feeling to make a right and I did. I drove into a church parking lot and got out and met a pastor. After about a hour of talking and finding out how financally distress this church was. I knew the reason for me ending up their. When these Dinar hit They will get a true 10% And this church will be singing Amazing Grace over and over again!!!! Yahoo!:happy64: I can't wait to see the change that going to come. And the power of God will prevail!!
John Jay
07-21-2007, 08:24 AM
I was driving down the street about 4 weeks ago and had avery unusual feeling to make a right and I did. I drove into a church parking lot and got out and met a pastor. After about a hour of talking and finding out how financally distress this church was. I knew the reason for me ending up their. When these Dinar hit They will get a true 10% And this church will be singing Amazing Grace over and over again!!!! Yahoo!:happy64: I can't wait to see the change that going to come. And the power of God will prevail!!
YaaaaaaaaaaaaaahooooooooOOOOOOOOOOoooooo AMEN.
jimbo
07-21-2007, 08:27 AM
Adster and Old Skiier, Have a question, with the passing of the HCL wouldn't they have to set the exchange rate? I thought Darock was saying they have to have set before passing the HCL and then after enacting it tell the world they reval.
heres-hoping
07-21-2007, 08:32 AM
Adster and Old Skiier, Have a question, with the passing of the HCL wouldn't they have to set the exchange rate? I thought Darock was saying they have to have set before passing the HCL and then after enacting it tell the world they reval.
It is rumoured that the rate was set a while ago, and waiting for ducks to align themselves before announcing it. Depends on whether you believe or not.
John Jay
07-21-2007, 08:38 AM
It is rumoured that the rate was set a while ago, and waiting for ducks to align themselves before announcing it. Depends on whether you believe or not.
I believe.........:cool:
heres-hoping
07-21-2007, 08:41 AM
I believe.........:cool:
I want to BELIEVE too.
jimbo
07-21-2007, 08:44 AM
It is rumoured that the rate was set a while ago, and waiting for ducks to align themselves before announcing it. Depends on whether you believe or not.
It would be very logical to think that they did. Just keep thinking about how I'll wake up some morning and find out that Iraq has just name their currency of choice!!!!
frank a bouchet
07-21-2007, 09:23 AM
Folks, it has been a very long and bumpy (mostly large bumps) road. I have only been along for the ride about 2 years,got my hopes up many times. My dealer has called me so many times with !its going to reval !!!! that he is too embarressed to return my calls. Nobody knows what is going to happen-but we do know something good is happening. So, lets sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. And, then, hopefully-GO CRAZY WITH JOY
dagod1
07-21-2007, 09:48 AM
why reitman why,
you need to live to spend your dinars, don't risk it, gee wiz.'
You must live with your parents , just kidding.
You got that right Adster!
PLAYING WITH FIRE!
Thanks... yep, well if I had a dinar for everytime someone told me that I'd have 5 IQD :)
Supposing I miss out... at least you'll all be too rich to care :)
Anyway, actual matters must take precedence. I still believe... but faith won't pay the bills.
rykpa
07-21-2007, 01:29 PM
And a reason why not to wonder this???
squiggle
07-21-2007, 01:42 PM
nice digs...550K buys a nice spread in MS....how far is it from Gulf shore's AL...which is where I am headed...same same
Gulfport is about 2 hours from Gulf Shores... we go there at least once a year. After the RV we'll be building a custom house there right on the beach :D and another one in the mountains of North Carolina, so when we get the hankering for either beaching it or hiking, we'll have a niiiiiice place to go!
Rving
07-21-2007, 04:07 PM
I was driving down the street about 4 weeks ago and had avery unusual feeling to make a right and I did. I drove into a church parking lot and got out and met a pastor. After about a hour of talking and finding out how financally distress this church was. I knew the reason for me ending up their. When these Dinar hit They will get a true 10% And this church will be singing Amazing Grace over and over again!!!! Yahoo!:happy64: I can't wait to see the change that going to come. And the power of God will prevail!!
Jimbo,
yes, it would be very nice.... think of all the people you could touch, and possibly change thier lives.... glory be to god... after your meeting with the pastor.. I hope you have been attending, it sounds like someone is calling ......are you going to answer?
B+Plus
07-21-2007, 04:18 PM
Unbeatable news! :D You can't beat it with a bat...I just hope that it accurate & hold true!:happy64:
REITman
07-21-2007, 04:33 PM
why reitman why,
you need to live to spend your dinars, don't risk it, gee wiz.'
You must live with your parents , just kidding.
:lmao: :lmao:
arh777
07-21-2007, 05:07 PM
Debate of oil law adjourns as parliament goes in recess-MP
Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Saturday , 21 /07 /2007 Time 11:17:48
Baghdad, Jul 21, (VOI)- Parliamentarian Abbas al-Bayyati, from the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition, said on Saturday the political disputes had turned the oil and gas draft law into a political pressure card that led to postpone its debate in parliament till the end of the summer recess.
"The oil and gas law was drafted to serve Iraq and its people but the political disputes turned the proposed law into a political pressure card," al-Bayyati told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
The legislator said "the draft so far has not been scientifically and objectively discussed, and most of the raised objections were concerning the jurisdictions of the regions and provinces and the signing and carrying out the contracts."
"The parliament needs, at least, for a week to pass the bill into law and the remaining period is not enough to set it to debate and thus the discussion of the draft was postponed till the House is back from the summer recess," said al-Bayyati noting that his bloc wanted a transparent vote on the draft under the eyes of the Iraqi nation.
The Iraqi House of Representatives will go on a month-long-vacation as early as August.
As regards the objections raised on the draft, al-Bayyati said "the blocs that believed in a centralized administration from Baghdad stressed on having the final say on the regions and provinces' contracts in the hands of the oil and gas federal council, while those advocating federalism viewed the role of the oil and gas federal council as merely ratifying the contracts within a specific period."
The legislator also drew the attention to dialogues underway now among political blocs on the sharing contracts from within the oil and gas draft law, for some saw it as "an attempt to set the national wealth as a mortgage to the foreign companies while others viewed it as a need by the country to develop its oilfields to increase its daily production from currently 1.5 million barrels up to three or four millions barrels."
A third opinion, the parliamentarian pointed out, was evolved to the effect that sharing in return for service which meant a share of the production would be given to the companies in return of their services.
He added "sharing contracts should be supervised by the parliament and cabinet though some lawmakers saw such contracts as being implemented in Iraq under the former regime and also applied in other countries."
The draft oil and gas law for the management of oil resources is considered one of the most controversial issues in Iraq, and there are differences among political blocs on the law regarding the equitable distribution of revenue.
The law, if approved by parliament, will give Iraqi and foreign investors the right to set up establishments and oil refineries and use them for 50 years.
Most of Iraq's known oil reserves are located in the Shia-dominated south and the Kurdish north.
Iraq sits on the world's third-largest oil reserves and officials have sought, since last year, to finalize the draft law.
The law is vital for attracting foreign investment to Iraq, to boost its oil output and rebuild its economy.
Recent disputes have arisen after Iraq’s oil ministry warned regions in late April against signing contracts until the law was passed.
The Kurdistan regional government has signed several agreements with foreign companies.
SK
http://66.111.34.180/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=50900&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1
MEALTICKET
07-21-2007, 05:24 PM
Debate of oil law adjourns as parliament goes in recess-MP
Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Saturday , 21 /07 /2007 Time 11:17:48
Baghdad, Jul 21, (VOI)- Parliamentarian Abbas al-Bayyati, from the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition, said on Saturday the political disputes had turned the oil and gas draft law into a political pressure card that led to postpone its debate in parliament till the end of the summer recess.
"The oil and gas law was drafted to serve Iraq and its people but the political disputes turned the proposed law into a political pressure card," al-Bayyati told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
The legislator said "the draft so far has not been scientifically and objectively discussed, and most of the raised objections were concerning the jurisdictions of the regions and provinces and the signing and carrying out the contracts."
"The parliament needs, at least, for a week to pass the bill into law and the remaining period is not enough to set it to debate and thus the discussion of the draft was postponed till the House is back from the summer recess," said al-Bayyati noting that his bloc wanted a transparent vote on the draft under the eyes of the Iraqi nation.
The Iraqi House of Representatives will go on a month-long-vacation as early as August.
As regards the objections raised on the draft, al-Bayyati said "the blocs that believed in a centralized administration from Baghdad stressed on having the final say on the regions and provinces' contracts in the hands of the oil and gas federal council, while those advocating federalism viewed the role of the oil and gas federal council as merely ratifying the contracts within a specific period."
The legislator also drew the attention to dialogues underway now among political blocs on the sharing contracts from within the oil and gas draft law, for some saw it as "an attempt to set the national wealth as a mortgage to the foreign companies while others viewed it as a need by the country to develop its oilfields to increase its daily production from currently 1.5 million barrels up to three or four millions barrels."
A third opinion, the parliamentarian pointed out, was evolved to the effect that sharing in return for service which meant a share of the production would be given to the companies in return of their services.
He added "sharing contracts should be supervised by the parliament and cabinet though some lawmakers saw such contracts as being implemented in Iraq under the former regime and also applied in other countries."
The draft oil and gas law for the management of oil resources is considered one of the most controversial issues in Iraq, and there are differences among political blocs on the law regarding the equitable distribution of revenue.
The law, if approved by parliament, will give Iraqi and foreign investors the right to set up establishments and oil refineries and use them for 50 years.
Most of Iraq's known oil reserves are located in the Shia-dominated south and the Kurdish north.
Iraq sits on the world's third-largest oil reserves and officials have sought, since last year, to finalize the draft law.
The law is vital for attracting foreign investment to Iraq, to boost its oil output and rebuild its economy.
Recent disputes have arisen after Iraq’s oil ministry warned regions in late April against signing contracts until the law was passed.
The Kurdistan regional government has signed several agreements with foreign companies.
SK
http://66.111.34.180/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=50900&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1
Maybe there will be no vacation!!!
Baghdad, Jul 21, (VOI)- Parliamentarian Abbas al-Bayyati, from the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition, said on Saturday the political disputes had turned the oil and gas draft law into a political pressure card that led to postpone its debate in parliament till the end of the summer recess.
AFTER ALL THE US MILITARY WILL NOT VACATION SEE HERE http://www.investorsiraq.com/showthread.php?t=48352
oldskiier
07-21-2007, 05:24 PM
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REITman
07-21-2007, 05:40 PM
Debate of oil law adjourns as parliament goes in recess
Well those are two things I didn't want to happen. I guess the ISX opening is the event to watch now. http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Confused/sorry.gif
Since some insist they'll only take two weeks off that means they'll be back around the 4th. Whether that's true remains to be seen.
po-cajun
07-21-2007, 05:41 PM
too many conflicting reports. This says after vacation--one thread says Maliki says they will take only 2 weeks off to get laws passed. Don't know what to believe!!!!! I think if they don't get it done now, congress will really be on their case and a serious pullout will result thus cutting their GOI heads right off.....
DinarInMikeswrld1
07-21-2007, 05:43 PM
Debate of oil law adjourns as parliament goes in recess-MP
Baghdad - Voices of Iraq
Saturday , 21 /07 /2007 Time 11:17:48
Baghdad, Jul 21, (VOI)- Parliamentarian Abbas al-Bayyati, from the Shiite Unified Iraqi Coalition, said on Saturday the political disputes had turned the oil and gas draft law into a political pressure card that led to postpone its debate in parliament till the end of the summer recess.
"The oil and gas law was drafted to serve Iraq and its people but the political disputes turned the proposed law into a political pressure card," al-Bayyati told the independent news agency Voices of Iraq (VOI).
The legislator said "the draft so far has not been scientifically and objectively discussed, and most of the raised objections were concerning the jurisdictions of the regions and provinces and the signing and carrying out the contracts."
"The parliament needs, at least, for a week to pass the bill into law and the remaining period is not enough to set it to debate and thus the discussion of the draft was postponed till the House is back from the summer recess," said al-Bayyati noting that his bloc wanted a transparent vote on the draft under the eyes of the Iraqi nation.
The Iraqi House of Representatives will go on a month-long-vacation as early as August.
As regards the objections raised on the draft, al-Bayyati said "the blocs that believed in a centralized administration from Baghdad stressed on having the final say on the regions and provinces' contracts in the hands of the oil and gas federal council, while those advocating federalism viewed the role of the oil and gas federal council as merely ratifying the contracts within a specific period."
The legislator also drew the attention to dialogues underway now among political blocs on the sharing contracts from within the oil and gas draft law, for some saw it as "an attempt to set the national wealth as a mortgage to the foreign companies while others viewed it as a need by the country to develop its oilfields to increase its daily production from currently 1.5 million barrels up to three or four millions barrels."
A third opinion, the parliamentarian pointed out, was evolved to the effect that sharing in return for service which meant a share of the production would be given to the companies in return of their services.
He added "sharing contracts should be supervised by the parliament and cabinet though some lawmakers saw such contracts as being implemented in Iraq under the former regime and also applied in other countries."
The draft oil and gas law for the management of oil resources is considered one of the most controversial issues in Iraq, and there are differences among political blocs on the law regarding the equitable distribution of revenue.
The law, if approved by parliament, will give Iraqi and foreign investors the right to set up establishments and oil refineries and use them for 50 years.
Most of Iraq's known oil reserves are located in the Shia-dominated south and the Kurdish north.
Iraq sits on the world's third-largest oil reserves and officials have sought, since last year, to finalize the draft law.
The law is vital for attracting foreign investment to Iraq, to boost its oil output and rebuild its economy.
Recent disputes have arisen after Iraq’s oil ministry warned regions in late April against signing contracts until the law was passed.
The Kurdistan regional government has signed several agreements with foreign companies.
SK
http://66.111.34.180/look/english/article.tpl?IdLanguage=1&IdPublication=4&NrArticle=50900&NrIssue=2&NrSection=1
I thought this was important enough for its own thread........
So I started one.
TREBOR
07-21-2007, 08:11 PM
[quote=DinarInMikeswrld1;431554]I thought this was important enough for its own thread........
So I started one.
I'm with you on this one DinarInMikeswrld1, these clowns do not give a toss about anybody but themselves. The coalitions forces are waisting thier time, no sorry far more important than that, they are waisting thier lives. Where is Bush to go from here, I did not agree at first with what he done but, I can understand why now. I generaly feel sorry for the guy, he must feel fustrated as hell, he is sticking he's head on the block for these clowns along with the coalition forces.
rykpa
07-21-2007, 08:53 PM
P.S. http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2007/04/367859.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/05/370387.html&h=502&w=531&sz=259&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=QTm63mwqDe2ZIM:&tbnh=125&tbnw=132&prev=/images%3Fq%3Diraqi%2Bhydrocarbon%2Blaw%26svnum%3D1 0%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
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