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postcon
07-27-2007, 05:20 AM
Progress slow in Iraqi parliament - Votes on benchmarks distant

BAGHDAD – Missing from Thursday’s session of the Iraqi parliament were about half of the members including the speaker, the former speaker and two former prime ministers.

Also missing: a sense of urgency.


American officials have been pressuring Iraqi leaders to prove their determination to overcome sectarian strife by approving landmark legislation before the Bush administration’s next report to Congress on Iraq in mid-September.


But even as parliament’s monthlong August break approaches, key issues are not under discussion. Quorums are marginal, or fleeting.


Despite the high stakes, the Iraqi parliament appears to be deliberating at a plodding pace to rival legislative bodies around the world.
On Thursday, the parliament’s 50th session of the year, members convened a half hour late. The opening Muslim prayer and 275-name roll call took another half hour, a quarter of the time in what turned out to be a roughly two-hour session.


A bell rang in the convention center in the fortified Green Zone reminding members to take their seats and raise their hands for roll call (the electronic system is broken). It showed 145 in attendance. That dropped to 137 as members walked out after the first vote, leaving them perilously close to losing their quorum. The speaker has dismissed parliament in the past for falling below quorum with fewer than 100 legislators, but on Thursday, they proceeded.


Those present circulated an agenda of 11 items, none related to the benchmark legislation Washington has been demanding, including laws concerning oil investment and revenue-sharing between regions, re-integrating former members of Saddam Hussein’s Baathist regime into government, disarming militias and mounting local elections.


The parliament is under pressure from many in Washington and from Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to stay at work the rest of the summer. But having already sacrificed one month of vacation in July, and shifting from three- to six-day workweeks, many are unwilling to give up their August break and unlikely to make progress before it starts next week.


Al-Maliki’s spokesman, Ali Dabbagh, blamed legislative delays on tension between political blocs in parliament and the Cabinet. On Wednesday, legislators from the largest Sunni bloc withdrew from the Cabinet, stalling a portion of the oil law, he said.


Still, President Bush remained upbeat Thursday about parliament’s efforts.
“The Iraqi parliament has passed quite a few pieces of legislation and they’re trying to work through their differences,” Bush told an organization of state officials in Philadelphia. “Sometimes legislative bodies aren’t real smooth in getting out a piece of legislation in a timely fashion, as some of you might recognize, but nevertheless, they’re working hard learning what it means to have a parliament that functions.”


Thursday’s session began in earnest with members congratulating the Iraqi national soccer team on their Wednesday victory over South Korea in the Asian Cup competition. One member mocked South Korea as a “paper tiger.” Another chided him, saying sports should unite not divide countries. That ate up about 10 minutes. Then the chairman of the sports committee took the podium and chastised the lawmakers.


“Our team promised us they would win. Where are the politicians who promised us electricity and cold water?” said Hassan Othman, who leads the sports committee.


No one responded.


Instead, two members began complaining about U.S. military operations earlier this week in the west Baghdad neighborhood of Amil and in Husseiniya, about 20 miles north of the capital, where witnesses said an American air strike left 18 dead.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nationworld/story/119720.html

Adster
07-27-2007, 05:30 AM
They're in wind down mode for their hols. In fact they know no other way. What a pathetic bunch of losers. :rolleyes:

DallasDinar
07-27-2007, 05:35 AM
“Our team promised us they would win. Where are the politicians who promised us electricity and cold water?” said Hassan Othman, who leads the sports committee.
:happy64:


No one responded.:wave:


Instead, two members began complaining about U.S. military operations earlier this week in the west Baghdad neighborhood of Amil and in Husseiniya, about 20 miles north of the capital, where witnesses said an American air strike left 18 dead. :mad:

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/nationworld/story/119720.html


Until the people rise up and hold the government accountable they will continue not to show up for work, not pass laws, and go on their vacation's while their people have none of the necessities needed for a descent life. Very sad!

DD

postcon
07-27-2007, 05:36 AM
They're in wind down mode for their hols. In fact they know no other way. What a pathetic bunch of losers. :rolleyes:

If the welfare of their own country doesn't coerce them to work, don't know what else will...

Adster
07-27-2007, 05:39 AM
Exactly correct. They have shown time and time again they only think about themselves. Troops continue to die, their people remain poor and these 'mothers' can't even be bothered to turn up for work. Disgraceful. :no:

KnightsCharger
07-27-2007, 08:15 AM
If the welfare of their own country doesn't coerce them to work, don't know what else will...


I do! Economic Nuclear Bomb aka "ENB" That will end their holiday!!:lmao: Let the idgits go away for a while. Who cares!, It's all about the banking sector anyway, The CBI, IMF and WB aren't going on vacation, unless there is not going to be any auctions through Aug. and Sept. Ramadan!!

Go away clowns your gummin' up the real work, and when you return you'll have a lot of explaining to do!!! If a well timed "ENB" doesn't light a fire under their behinds nothin' will!!!

buck74
07-27-2007, 09:03 AM
I know everyone is very frustrated, I have been with this for four years. But, it is a very complex situation over there, and I think they are making progress. These people have been killing each other for thousands of years, we cannot expect for everything to be rosy over night. I think the US needs to keep the presure on, but at the same time give them enough time to get these things done. I would hope by the end of the year we will see some significanr progress. I just hope the American public will give this time, that is the big question. Dubya has got to show some positive results soon or his own party will cut his legs out from under him.

COACH JACK
07-27-2007, 09:11 AM
I know everyone is very frustrated, I have been with this for four years. But, it is a very complex situation over there, and I think they are making progress. These people have been killing each other for thousands of years, we cannot expect for everything to be rosy over night. I think the US needs to keep the presure on, but at the same time give them enough time to get these things done. I would hope by the end of the year we will see some significanr progress. I just hope the American public will give this time, that is the big question. Dubya has got to show some positive results soon or his own party will cut his legs out from under him.
Hope you are right but I sure have my doubts. My biggest concern is the American people's patience. GWB has shown incredible resolve but I know our legislators concerns are just about on line with the Iraqi Parliment's; get reelected and to h*** with the people. Am I right or not?

Adster
07-27-2007, 09:13 AM
I know everyone is very frustrated, I have been with this for four years. But, it is a very complex situation over there, and I think they are making progress. These people have been killing each other for thousands of years, we cannot expect for everything to be rosy over night. I think the US needs to keep the presure on, but at the same time give them enough time to get these things done. I would hope by the end of the year we will see some significanr progress. I just hope the American public will give this time, that is the big question. Dubya has got to show some positive results soon or his own party will cut his legs out from under him.

Exactly buck, they don't have time on their side. Results/benchmarks need to be done asap, not end of the year, next year etc. I read an article earlier from last summer stating the HCL would be passed by the end of 2006, now look where we are, be lucky to get it passed three quarters of the way into 2007. Summit postponed from April to May, now September, perhaps postponed again too.

The fact they have gone on their jollys says it all really. :rolleyes:

Voyeur
07-27-2007, 09:17 AM
I know everyone is very frustrated, I have been with this for four years. But, it is a very complex situation over there, and I think they are making progress. These people have been killing each other for thousands of years, we cannot expect for everything to be rosy over night. I think the US needs to keep the presure on, but at the same time give them enough time to get these things done. I would hope by the end of the year we will see some significanr progress. I just hope the American public will give this time, that is the big question. Dubya has got to show some positive results soon or his own party will cut his legs out from under him.

Objectively, I agree Buck and I also become very frustrated. If there is one thing that is true it is this. Some of these leaders/groups/factions in Iraq who have substatial power can only be pushed so far so fast. If they feel too pressured they lock down their minds and walk away regardless of the consequences. There are great changes being made to their way of life and they have to change their way of thinking in the process. I think the changes in their way of life could happen fast but to change one's way of thinking is both an emotional and moral task for them. Of course, we can't forget to mention the subject of wealth and greed. It's very difficult but it is happening (slowwwwwlllllllyyyyyy). Voyeur. ;)