Bush seeks $200 Billion for Iraq in 2008

[wishn1hand]

Bush seeks $200 billion for Iraq in 2008


Published: 22, 2007 at 11:25 AM

WASHINGTON, 22 (UPI) -- U.S. President George Bush plans to to cite expensive new gear and the troop buildup in his request for $200 billion to fund the Iraq war in 2008.

If approved, the massive spending request would make 2008 the most expensive year of the war yet, the LA Times reported Saturday.

Bush's request, to be presented to Congress this Wednesday, ....

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/09/22/bush_seeks_200_billion_for_iraq_in_2008/7568/

[oldskiier]

Bush seeks $200 billion for Iraq in 2008


Published: 22, 2007 at 11:25 AM

WASHINGTON, 22 (UPI) -- U.S. President George Bush plans to to cite expensive new gear and the troop buildup in his request for $200 billion to fund the Iraq war in 2008.

If approved, the massive spending request would make 2008 the most expensive year of the war yet, the LA Times reported Saturday.

Bush's request, to be presented to Congress this Wednesday, ....

http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Top_News/2007/09/22/bush_seeks_200_billion_for_iraq_in_2008/7568/


This is either a huge smoke screen.......or Iraq has no intention of revaluing their currency what so ever !!!!......It's time to pay their own way don't ya think ....???.......... I don't get it ...If they are planing on Revaluing the dinar why don't they ..?? and pay us back and rebuild their country !!! I Just Don't Get It !!!!!

[DinarInANutHouse]

Bush is gonna cut everything else!!!:no:

We NEED the money for domestic use. One good example is my local police anti-drug task force is forced to shut down because of no federal funding.

That is just one example out of many!

[Crow]

This is either a huge smoke screen.......or Iraq has no intention of revaluing their currency what so ever !!!!......It's time to pay their own way don't ya think ....???.......... I don't get it ...If they are planing on Revaluing the dinar why don't they ..?? and pay us back and rebuild their country !!! I Just Don't Get It !!!!!

A large R/V is not a easy as is thought, M2 and other factors Blah,Blah,Blah so people have to be realistic as to the size of any rate moves that do happen.:)

[Mazin-Man]

A large R/V is not a easy as is thought, M2 and other factors Blah,Blah,Blah so people have to be realistic as to the size of any rate moves that do happen.:)Hell, their bleedin us dry!!! After all wasn't that their intention from the start? I can just about imagine what maliki going to say in his speech...more, more and more more!!

[thegujju]

How much more will the American tax payer take?

Given that the Iraqi are asking America to stay as they still need help, why arent they footing at least part of the bill. Instead they are off cozying up to the Iranians and selling contracts to the Russians and Chinese.

Then again, I guess its already cost a couple of trillion, so whats another couple of hundred billion between friends lol.

[Mazin-Man]

How much more will the American tax payer take?

Given that the Iraqi are asking America to stay as they still need help, why arent they footing at least part of the bill. Instead they are off cozying up to the Iranians and selling contracts to the Russians and Chinese.

Then again, I guess its already cost a couple of trillion, so whats another couple of hundred billion between friends lol.meanwhile, our own country goes to the toilet..We're sinkin fast here folks, sorry to say..Love and support the troops but Iraq is Iran driven, and wde can't keep goin the way we are somethins going to snap this is just plain crazy!!!

[LL-COOL-J]

Hell, their bleedin us dry!!! After all wasn't that their intention from the start? I can just about imagine what maliki going to say in his speech...more, more and more more!!



i think its safe to say at this point that generations to come will be paying for this venture.I just wonder if as the years pass and we look back on all this will we be saying that this campain in iraq was the straw that broke the camels back.In other words have we gone to the point that our standard of living will ever be the same?Is this venture in iraq the end of america as we have known it.Only time will tell but it sure dont look good.As we pump billions after billions we have little to nothing to show for it,they continue to suck us dry and stall any significant progress.Soon we will see another stall and more vacations.How much is enough?

[Crow]

This whole thing wasn't handled the best it could have, but lets see what happens now.

[Sponson]

Hell, their bleedin us dry!!! After all wasn't that their intention from the start? I can just about imagine what maliki going to say in his speech...more, more and more more!!

Nah. We'll just print more money...

:worried:

[REITman]

Hell, their bleedin us dry!!! After all wasn't that their intention from the start? I can just about imagine what maliki going to say in his speech...more, more and more more!!

And don't forget his other favorite word... SOON! ;)

[williambedloe]

You know, I have supported this effort in search of a better solution to the Middle East for some time, but another 200 billion? No...start pumping more oil...and then get rid of every spend happy Republican and naggin, troublemaking Democrat in Congress - in fact, just get rid of them all...:mad:

(Oh...I refuse to use the new smilies any longer - I'm going old school all the way):happy64:

[Mazin-Man]

You know, I have supported this effort in search of a better solution to the Middle East for some time, but another 200 billion? No...start pumping more oil...and then get rid of every spend happy Republican and naggin, troublemaking Democrat in Congress - in fact, just get rid of them all...:mad:

(Oh...I refuse to use the new smilies any longer - I'm going old school all the way):happy64:I agree!! The world has gone mad...pure insanity..

[jcav]

This Is Total BS. Why Would They Need 200 Billion From Us. No Way. They Should Be Paying Us Back By Then.

[Nocturnal]

Bush stated awhile ago that this war would be paid for in July of 07, NOW he wants another 200 Billion to throw away on these worthless vacationers? I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Maliki wasn't hand in hand with Bin Laden in bankrupting this country. I am beginning to wonder what kind of legacy this president is trying for. I for one cannot see spending another dime on Iraq when the float over a vast ocean of oil that every country needs, and obviously is willing to spend 80.00 + dollars a barrel for. Maliki needs to take his hand out of our pocket and start digging for dollars in his own back yard, after the oil flow starts we had better get oil from Iraq at 20.00 a barrel until our war dept is paid off or I am sure there will be some very unhappy broke people Bush will have to deal with, sitting or not.

[Nocturnal]

Can someone answer me this? Why are there so many people believeing that or economy is so strong, when we are at a stand still as far as houseing and or dollar is falling to record lows? Why do these people try pumping that we have a strong economy? who are they trying to kid? I am starting to beleive that Bush has taken us to the point of no return. If someone can answer these questions for me I would greatly appreceate it.

[Ialdoboath]

The say that on the Titanic the band kept playing until the very end...


Can someone answer me this? Why are there so many people believeing that or economy is so strong, when we are at a stand still as far as houseing and or dollar is falling to record lows? Why do these people try pumping that we have a strong economy? who are they trying to kid? I am starting to beleive that Bush has taken us to the point of no return. If someone can answer these questions for me I would greatly appreceate it.

[Nocturnal]

The say that on the Titanic the band kept playing until the very end...


Then it sounds to me that you will be hearing the same music....when the right time comes. I am glad we are conected, I think it will be pretty easy to get across the boarder once this end has gotten bellow sea level. Hey get room, Ialdo, at your place for a family of 3? :hi:

[Mazin-Man]

Tell you one thing sure...Asking for another 200billion is going to wonders for this prisidents poll raitings...as if he ever cared!!!

[Voyeur]

As unsavory as it may be to think about the costs of the Iraq situation it is important not to lose sight of the objectives we need to achieve. We must complete our mission in Iraq. To fail there has far reaching consequences, not just in Iraq but throughout the world. We are on the verge of nuclear terrorism. The mission we started there has warped into something new. The new dangers are far more serious than the original. So, here we must stand and win as much as to win the next fight as to win this one. How lucky we are to be deployed in the one place that will allow us to take the fight to our most dangerous enemy. Take heart, failure is not an option. Voyeur.

[Nocturnal]

The way I see it Mazin, this President was a momma and daddies boy who really had the luxurie of not having to care what anyone else thought or thinks of him. He sets his mind on something and it takes an act of GOD and congress,,,,uh skip the congress part...it will take an act of GOD to get him to change his mind. And so far GOD has not seen the need to make Bush see the light, so to speak

[wishn1hand]

Whatever our men and women in uniform need to succeed, give it to them, double it if need be ...

[dinar shore]

As unsavory as it may be to think about the costs of the Iraq situation it is important not to lose sight of the objectives we need to achieve. We must complete our mission in Iraq. To fail there has far reaching consequences, not just in Iraq but throughout the world. We are on the verge of nuclear terrorism. The mission we started there has warped into something new. The new dangers are far more serious than the original. So, here we must stand and win as much as to win the next fight as to win this one. How lucky we are to be deployed in the one place that will allow us to take the fight to our most dangerous enemy. Take heart, failure is not an option. Voyeur.

Well said with forethought and intelligence, Voyeur. The consequences of not winning in Iraq would ultimately assure our demise and literally the American way of life as we know it today. The Islamic fascists that we battle are cloaked and Iraq and Afghanistan just happen to be the front line at present. I, frankly, don't want to give them an incentive to move that frontline 8000 miles westward.

[Nocturnal]

As unsavory as it may be to think about the costs of the Iraq situation it is important not to lose sight of the objectives we need to achieve. We must complete our mission in Iraq. To fail there has far reaching consequences, not just in Iraq but throughout the world. We are on the verge of nuclear terrorism. The mission we started there has warped into something new. The new dangers are far more serious than the original. So, here we must stand and win as much as to win the next fight as to win this one. How lucky we are to be deployed in the one place that will allow us to take the fight to our most dangerous enemy. Take heart, failure is not an option. Voyeur.


Voyeur, Please don't get me wrong I do support our troops and the mission, What I am so upset about is the Americans not only policing the world, but by the looks of it, also paying to police the world, paying to make sure other countries are fed, paying for catastrophies not only at home but abroad, paying for everything.
Where are some of the BIG money countries? I realise that NONE of them have the balls to go in guns blazin, but guess what their little part of the world is included in the vast reaches of a nuclear terrorist plots, but yet they do nothing but sit back and watch, they could help finance this war if they haven't got the guts that it takes to win this thing against, hit and run cowards. Am I right or wrong here?
All I am saying is I really think Bush should push other countries that have money to help us in this fight, if not with men then with money, Why should this GLOBAL fight on terrorism rest on the shoulders of one major country and a few smaller countries with fewer troop involvement? Why should Americans continue to suffer with bringing less dollars home so the rest of the world can have added security? Where is the help?

[Voyeur]

Voyeur, Please don't get me wrong I do support our troops and the mission, What I am so upset about is the Americans not only policing the world, but by the looks of it, also paying to police the world, paying to make sure other countries are fed, paying for catastrophies not only at home but abroad, paying for everything.
Where are some of the BIG money countries? I realise that NONE of them have the balls to go in guns blazin, but guess what their little part of the world is included in the vast reaches of a nuclear terrorist plots, but yet they do nothing but sit back and watch, they could help finance this war if they haven't got the guts that it takes to win this thing against, hit and run cowards. Am I right or wrong here?
All I am saying is I really think Bush should push other countries that have money to help us in this fight, if not with men then with money, Why should this GLOBAL fight on terrorism rest on the shoulders of one major country and a few smaller countries with fewer troop involvement? Why should Americans continue to suffer with bringing less dollars home so the rest of the world can have added security? Where is the help?

Oddly enough, the French. The French have spoken out on Iran. That is a big help. For the other EU countries to allow the French to lead the way is not yet politically acceptable. They have entered the bigger fight. The war of world opionion and they have weighed in firmly on our side. The lines will be drawn and we shall see who stands on which side of the line. Voyeur.

[Nocturnal]

Oddly enough, the French. The French have spoken out on Iran. That is a big help. For the other EU countries to allow the French to lead the way is not yet politically acceptable. They have entered the bigger fight. The war of world opionion and they have weighed in firmly on our side. The lines will be drawn and we shall see who stands on which side of the line. Voyeur.

Of coarse this is a big deal but where are the other countries, countries with DEEP check books, I think the UN should step in and tell these other countries, hey if you want these other countries sending troops in to fight and die for your security, then you had best right the check for it.

[Voyeur]

Of coarse this is a big deal but where are the other countries, countries with DEEP check books, I think the UN should step in and tell these other countries, hey if you want these other countries sending troops in to fight and die for your security, then you had best right the check for it.

I don't have an answer I can backup well on this. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. It would really help to have Russia or China firmly in our court on this but I think that is too much to hope for. Voyeur.

[Nocturnal]

I don't have an answer I can backup well on this. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. It would really help to have Russia or China firmly in our court on this but I think that is too much to hope for. Voyeur.

Brought this out of Deja post, About the UN hosting...

If the UN are wondering how to bring peice to Iraq, what Maliki needs to do is talk to the Chinese and tell them bring in your million man military, clean out our country of insurgents, police the secetarian violence, back our dinar with the trillion dollars you have in american currency, then lets talk about our 300 billion barrels of oil that you "China" seem to be needing the most.
I would say they could offer a pretty nice package to the Chinese if they would do something to help get this over with fairly quickly. Any thoughts?, or am I way to overboard on my way of thinking?

[Voyeur]

Brought this out of Deja post, About the UN hosting...

If the UN are wondering how to bring peice to Iraq, what Maliki needs to do is talk to the Chinese and tell them bring in your million man military, clean out our country of insurgents, police the secetarian violence, back our dinar with the trillion dollars you have in american currency, then lets talk about our 300 billion barrels of oil that you "China" seem to be needing the most.
I would say they could offer a pretty nice package to the Chinese if they would do something to help get this over with fairly quickly. Any thoughts?, or am I way to overboard on my way of thinking?


If Maliki does that he'll be speaking Chinese and eating eggrolls. They are bigger infidels than we are. Voyeur.

[Nocturnal]

If Maliki does that he'll be speaking Chinese and eating eggrolls. They are bigger infidels than we are. Voyeur.


so,so true very funny though.:lmao:

[British Bulldog]

Is there a running total so far of how much the US has pumped into Iraq?

The reason I ask is about the motives for this war and what the US has to gain. Is it about he oil?? This 200 billion dollars alone shaves almost $2 of EVERY barrel of proven oil reserves. The US will only be able to stake a claim on so much or these reserves.... lets say for ease that the US can have 20% of all the current reserves, this 200 billion that Bush is trying to raise covers $10 / barrel in advance. With what the US has already pumped in, that 20 % must be pretty much paid for in full in advance. So 1 in 5 barrels that comes out of the ground goes direct to the US for free?? Somebody help me on this coz something doesn't seem right here, the numbers and the reasons just don't add up. Do the US have stacks of Dinar afterall to pay for this??? Is there alot more proven oil than they let on???

[harpua]

There were disagreements about the estimated cost. In September 2002, White House economic adviser Lawrence Lindsey told The Wall Street Journal that a U.S. intervention in Iraq could cost between $100 billion and $200 billion—a figure that approximates current spending. White House Budget Director Mitchell E. Daniels Jr. labeled that figure as “very, very high” and estimated total war costs at between $50 billion to $60 billion. Lindsey resigned in January 2003. :smoke:

[TimP]

Read and follow our MSM and you will believe that our country is failing economically and militarially.

Beside the slow down in housing sales this country's economy IS strong. Jobs are up, national unemployment is at about 4.5% better than any other country, the stock market continues to out perform previous years and will continue to do so...get a grip people...we do not have folks standing in soup lines as the MSM would have you believe.

As to the monitary cost of the "war in Iraq"...which is really mis-titled, it should the the "Battle of Iraq", current frontline in the War on Terror...whatever it takes to win is what I say. We can not afford to lose. And just what do y'all suggest we do cuz others aren't stepping up to help with money? Quit and go home?

Folks we spend $600 BILLION each year on "The War on Poverty"...now thats a loser...cut funds from that sucker.

And why depend on the Federal Govenment for money to run a drug dog program? Do what we did in my town...PAY FOR IT YOURSELVES.

A wise man once said "Seek and Ye shall find, knock and the door will open" and "The truth will set you free" Don't just take what ya read in the papers or see on ABCNBCCBSPBS as the gosspel truth. It ain't that bad...find a better country (I bet ya can't)

Some will accuse me of being a rabid Bush supporter or naive...whatever, I still believe this is the greatest country on God's green earth and believe President Bush will be remembered by history as one of our greatest Presidents. rant, rant, rant...ok I'm done now.

[The Baghdaddy]

As unsavory as it may be to think about the costs of the Iraq situation it is important not to lose sight of the objectives we need to achieve. We must complete our mission in Iraq. To fail there has far reaching consequences, not just in Iraq but throughout the world. We are on the verge of nuclear terrorism. The mission we started there has warped into something new. The new dangers are far more serious than the original. So, here we must stand and win as much as to win the next fight as to win this one. How lucky we are to be deployed in the one place that will allow us to take the fight to our most dangerous enemy. Take heart, failure is not an option. Voyeur.

Since Saddam was toppled every tin pot dictator in the world feels that the only way to stop it happening to him is to aquire nuclear defence.
Once they have that capability who knows where it might end.
We must see this job through to the end.
How many times in both our histories has failing to see the job through because of either liberal minds or apathy. Hell America would probably still be part of the UK of A (LOL).......WE MUST SEE THIS JOB THROUGH. TO CUT AND RUN IS NOT AN OPTION.
In line with that guys once that oil starts pumping and we have that resource and Iraq secure our countries will flourish. Plus we will have Iran on two fronts the Afghan and Iraqi. They will eventually do as they are told. Time is on our side. Secure Iraq and Afghanistan pump that oil and we can bring Iran to its knees. The rest of the middle east along with it.
Do you really think we invaded Iraq by accident? It borders Saudi Arabia Kuwait Jordan Syria Iran and Turkey mmmm Good strategic location for the future. Our children will sleep better at night because we hold Iraq.
Now I will get down off this soap box
:lipssealed:

[The Baghdaddy]

As unsavory as it may be to think about the costs of the Iraq situation it is important not to lose sight of the objectives we need to achieve. We must complete our mission in Iraq. To fail there has far reaching consequences, not just in Iraq but throughout the world. We are on the verge of nuclear terrorism. The mission we started there has warped into something new. The new dangers are far more serious than the original. So, here we must stand and win as much as to win the next fight as to win this one. How lucky we are to be deployed in the one place that will allow us to take the fight to our most dangerous enemy. Take heart, failure is not an option. Voyeur.

Since Saddam was toppled every tin pot dictator in the world feels that the only way to stop it happening to him is to aquire nuclear defence.
Once they have that capability who knows where it might end.
We must see this job through to the end.
How many times in both our histories has failing to see the job through because of either liberal minds or apathy caused prolonged suffering and countless lost lives. Hell America would probably still be part of the UK of A (LOL).......If we had wanted it more than we wanted to war with the French. How rich would be now? lol (joke guys)! WE MUST SEE THIS JOB THROUGH. TO CUT AND RUN IS NOT AN OPTION.
In line with that guys once that oil starts pumping and we have that resource and Iraq secure our countries will flourish. Plus we will have Iran on two fronts the Afghan and Iraqi. They will eventually do as they are told. Time is on our side. Secure Iraq and Afghanistan pump that oil and we can bring Iran to its knees. The rest of the middle east along with it.
Do you really think we invaded Iraq by accident? It borders Saudi Arabia Kuwait Jordan Syria Iran and Turkey mmmm Good strategic location for the future. Our children will sleep better at night because we hold Iraq.
Now I will get down off this soap box
:lipssealed:

[The Baghdaddy]

Is there a running total so far of how much the US has pumped into Iraq?

The reason I ask is about the motives for this war and what the US has to gain. Is it about he oil?? This 200 billion dollars alone shaves almost $2 of EVERY barrel of proven oil reserves. The US will only be able to stake a claim on so much or these reserves.... lets say for ease that the US can have 20% of all the current reserves, this 200 billion that Bush is trying to raise covers $10 / barrel in advance. With what the US has already pumped in, that 20 % must be pretty much paid for in full in advance. So 1 in 5 barrels that comes out of the ground goes direct to the US for free?? Somebody help me on this coz something doesn't seem right here, the numbers and the reasons just don't add up. Do the US have stacks of Dinar afterall to pay for this??? Is there alot more proven oil than they let on???

Im not sure about proven but there are a hell of a lot of oil fields untapped. They certainly have the potential to become a bigger producer than Saudi Arabia in 20 years if all the areas earmarked do produce.
Remember as well that 75% of the oil in Iraq is identified but untapped and thats 75% of PROVEN reserves. Look how much they can produce now. Imagine another 75% and then the unexplored unexploited areas if they actually produce on top of that! My...... that country will end up as the worlds number 1.
We helped it get there.

[farquar]

As unsavory as it may be to think about the costs of the Iraq situation it is important not to lose sight of the objectives we need to achieve. We must complete our mission in Iraq. To fail there has far reaching consequences, not just in Iraq but throughout the world. We are on the verge of nuclear terrorism. The mission we started there has warped into something new. The new dangers are far more serious than the original. So, here we must stand and win as much as to win the next fight as to win this one. How lucky we are to be deployed in the one place that will allow us to take the fight to our most dangerous enemy. Take heart, failure is not an option. Voyeur. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU "v". PEOPLE WERE PIxxING AND MOANING ABOUT THE LIB'S TRYING TO DEFUND THIS WWW EFFORT AGAINST RADICAL MUSLUMS AND PULLING OUR TROOPS HOME IN DEFEAT WITH OUR TAILS BETWEEN OUR LEGS. EVERYONE SHOULD JUST REALIZE THAT, IF SUCCESSFUL THE US AND THE WORLD WILL NOT BE HOSTAGE TO A NUCLER IRAN OR SYRIA( THANK YOU ISRAEL). IT'S ONLY DEBT VS AN ECONOMIC SHUT DOWN OF THE WEST AND HER ALLIES. IE: IRAN SELLING US OIL AT $1000.OO U.S.D. PER BARREL OR NO OIL AT ALL, WITH A HOLE IN THE EARTH WHERE ISRAEL USED TO BE. THEN SHARIA LAW ENACTED UPON ALL THE WORLD....................... LET'S JUST COMPLETE THIS MISSION, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wave:

[farquar]

There are those who voice opposition to our presence in Iraq, others who fault our conduct of the war. Recent statements by the administration and the military have indicated some progress is being made. http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=c68c497b-120e-4a17-b153-3a7290500e28