Not Until Bush's War Is Over

[Spiderman]

I'm really sorry that my 1st thread is a pessimistic one... however, the Dinar will not open up until George Bush is finished with his war. If it opens before, a good portion of expat contract workers will up and leave (KBR, ITT ect). There would be an exodus not seen since biblical times. If this happens... well, I don't even want to say

[Chaka]

pegging the dinar will not send everyone home

security and updated infrstructure will

[Whats_UP]

Aren't most of these people under contract to do the work?

can't just up and leave if your under contract with company or country.

[Spiderman]

I've been away for a while, but when did the word "pegging" and "floating" become synonymous with "opening" on the world market. I thought pegging meant the means by which the value of the money is valued/determined? For example the US$ is pegged against the gold in Fort Knox. I "Thunked" :rolleye03 Basically what I mean is, As soon as we can cash in the loot, we are home bound!

[Spiderman]

Contractors are not bound like the Military. 14 to 30 days notice is all that is required; if you want to return to the company. We work in the same environment as the military. Do you honestly think we will not leave once we become Millionaires? All the Stability and infrastructure in the world will not keep us here. Today there is a sand storm and it is 125 degrees outside. And Tinydancer, happy juice is illegal.

[Runamuck]

US currency hasn't been backed by gold in a long time.

[nyinvest]

I think you are giving yourself away using the term "Bush's War".

Oh yeah, Runamuck is right too. Gold standard ended decades ago. Collect some facts and get back to us, thanks!

[Runamuck]

Yeah i was going to rip him especially since he was wrong about Fort Knox but i am playing nice this morning...

Go PLNI!!

[nyinvest]

Yeah PLNI would be nice, but ICAN would be MUCH nicer.

[Runamuck]

Thats because you are front loaded!! What 50 million shares? Nice. I would just like it to make it to .0005 :)

[Spiderman]

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm a libertarian. I just have a non US conservative media propaganda perspective on what's going on here. Been here 7 years and this war... Well, let's stop on the politics and get back to Rumors :D

[Runamuck]

Been here 7 years

I will bite.. How have you been there 7 years? Or are you in Kuwait or something?

[nyinvest]

Thats because you are front loaded!! What 50 million shares? Nice. I would just like it to make it to .0005 :)

Tell you what, if ICAN gets to .001 before the Dinar hits, I'll buy you a million Dinar.

[Runamuck]

I will hold you to that!!

[nyinvest]

You better!

[Spiderman]

I'm in Kuwait. Sadam has been contained since the Kuwait war. "Y'all's boy" is just using 911 as a ploy to implement his own agenda. Sadam is the devil, but so are his neighbors and those clowns in Africa. They just don't the have the acute finacial gain potential, and an unfinished experience with "Y'all's boy" daddy. Sorry about the reference to Fort Knox but it was an obvious example. That's why I used the "I'm not certain" Smiley. George and Tony, will determine when the dinar opens. It will open when they are finished with this war. Sorry for the bad news.

[BigE]

I think you are giving yourself away using the term "Bush's War".

Oh yeah, Runamuck is right too. Gold standard ended decades ago. Collect some facts and get back to us, thanks!


Totally agree...they just don't get it.....never have never will.....
just like hollywood wondering why their movie sales have tanked. Because middle age parents are not letting kids buy into the crap. yes i fall into the category the DEAN just spoke about "white christians" but now I'm joined by my "black christian" neighbors who are coming to the RIGHT. Let them keep talking it's working to the rights advantage.

"his war" if it was "his war" he would not have been reelected over the antiwar candidate, therefore "his war" is "our war", if Spiderman doesn't agree...you should chose to distance yourself from IRAQ and get a job in a college liberal arts department. but most of all distance yourself for the DINAR., go INVEST IN THE EURO via SPAIN :lmao: :D

[BigE]

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm a libertarian. I just have a non US conservative media propaganda perspective on what's going on here. Been here 7 years and this war... Well, let's stop on the politics and get back to Rumors :D

there are some smart libertians in the world,,, Bortz...and he supports the BUSH's WAR.

Guess this is way the libertians will never git to more votes....the bobwire hurts from straddling the fence between the right and the left.

You brought in the politics but joing in 6/05 and immediatly talking about "BUSH's WAR"

[BigE]

this guy joins today, and the first post he makes is "pessimistic", then the second post he makes is identical under another THREAD.. see his thread posts.

what a way to start out being friendly.....or should i say non political.
Someone on here want to make a dinar wager he is also a member of Democratic Underground, Moveon.xxx, or the Koolaid drinkers of America Assoc.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm :drunk:

[Goalie Interference]

Contractors are not bound like the Military. 14 to 30 days notice is all that is required; if you want to return to the company. We work in the same environment as the military. Do you honestly think we will not leave once we become Millionaires? All the Stability and infrastructure in the world will not keep us here. Today there is a sand storm and it is 125 degrees outside. And Tinydancer, happy juice is illegal.

Your downfall is your erroneous belief that you and your co-workers are irreplacable. I don't mean to belittle what 's being done by contractors, but when the dinar opens, and a few of you leave, there will be ten more standing in line waiting to take your place. Additionally, you are making a pretty bold assumption the dinar will open at a high enough rate that everyone will immediatley sell out and bail.

BTW, thanks for branding yourself right off the bat. At the very least, everyone will know how to take you, without guessing.

[Spiderman]

Guys are you all hearing me? I am definately not a liberal! Please! A libertarian is republican with courage. The republican clown's have y'all running like scared chickens while the Democrate clowns are basically setting us up for... Anyway if you guys don't want to hear the truth here is a rumor that will make the cry babies pacified: My inside source from Merrle Lynche says that per "Y'all's Boy", the Dinar will be "Pegged" this August. Sorry I could not attach a numerical date. :no: That's Uhm, Uhm, Uhm. PAWNS.

[Whats_UP]

Guys are you all hearing me? I am definately not a liberal! Please! A libertarian is republican with courage. The republican clown's have y'all running like scared chickens while the Democrate clowns are basically setting us up for... Anyway if you guys don't want to hear the truth here is a rumor that will make the cry babies pacified: My inside source from Merrle Lynche says that per "Y'all's Boy", the Dinar will be "Pegged" this August. Sorry I could not attach a numerical date. :no: That's Uhm, Uhm, Uhm. PAWNS.
Good or bad he's still your president like it or not, that is "if" your an American......and your' boy too....

[nyinvest]

Oh, you are one of them "smarter than everyone" libertarians. I read about you people, never thought I would run into a real live one.

[Spiderman]

lol :lmao: Yea, when the stuff hits the fan, I guess he is "my boy" too. But; I ain't got to like him.

[tmorr37]

a libertarian believes national defense ends at our borders and anything beyond ours is none of our business. therefore Saddam would still be in power and all the other evil in the world would just run amuck out there and we would not have the power or the technology to do anything about it, such as why have an aircraft carriers , long range bombers ,Thus the eventual end to the usa. This is where Neil Bortz parts his libertarian ways

[Goalie Interference]

Guys are you all hearing me? I am definately not a liberal! Please! A libertarian is republican with courage. The republican clown's have y'all running like scared chickens while the Democrate clowns are basically setting us up for... Anyway if you guys don't want to hear the truth here is a rumor that will make the cry babies pacified: My inside source from Merrle Lynche says that per "Y'all's Boy", the Dinar will be "Pegged" this August. Sorry I could not attach a numerical date. :no: That's Uhm, Uhm, Uhm. PAWNS.
I hear ya, loud and clear, and you come across as a self important person with a whole bunch of opinions and no facts to back them with. Kind of like most liberals I've run across. And, like most liberals, you automatically assume everyone who disagrees with you is republican. I don't carry a label on my forehead, unless you want to say conservative, or patriot. I don't walk in lock step to the party line, and I don't believe in political blind faith. You however, are very much like a number of other first time posters. Begin with snide remarks, attack people, claim to have "inside" information from "Merrle Lynche", (uhhhh Merrill Lynch), then fade into the woodwork..........
Welcome to the forum :wave:

[Spiderman]

a libertarian believes national defense ends at our borders and anything beyond ours is none of our business. therefore Saddam would still be in power and all the other evil in the world would just run amuck out there and we would not have the power or the technology to do anything about it, such as why have an aircraft carriers , long range bombers ,Thus the eventual end to the usa. This is where Neil Bortz parts his libertarian ways


I don't believe anyone espouses to the purist form of there political affiliation, however; this mess was unnecessary. At least at the time. Find ole Ben 1st, then fool around with this other clown. I have lost several friends in this mess, soldiers and civilians, and "Our boy" with his arrogant persona, underestimated the treachery of these clowns over here. I taught history back in the states, and there is a quote that is relevant, "Old men send young men to die". I'm at a loss for who exactly spoke those words. Don't get me wrong; I love my country and I love these guys over here fighting for us, but unfortunately in this case, they are being used, and you folks back in the states are being manipulated through fear.

[nyinvest]

Who cares. Profit from the war and be happy.

(Did I ever tell anyone that I know someone who knew Saddam pre war? Like, sit down share a meal know him? Maybe I will go into that some day....)

[LongHaul]

Spiderman: George and Tony, will determine when the dinar opens. It will open when they are finished with this war. Sorry for the bad news.

For better or for worse ....

[Spiderman]

I hear ya, loud and clear, and you come across as a self important person with a whole bunch of opinions and no facts to back them with. Kind of like most liberals I've run across. And, like most liberals, you automatically assume everyone who disagrees with you is republican. I don't carry a label on my forehead, unless you want to say conservative, or patriot. I don't walk in lock step to the party line, and I don't believe in political blind faith. You however, are very much like a number of other first time posters. Begin with snide remarks, attack people, claim to have "inside" information from "Merrle Lynche", (uhhhh Merrill Lynch), then fade into the woodwork..........
Welcome to the forum :wave:

Man I am truly sorry that you think I called anyone names. I apologize. My attitude is totally jovial :happy26: . But I am not a liberal! L I B E R T A R I A N. lol :lmao: Did I spell that right? And as I tried to impart earlier, not purely. I don't blame Slick Willy for the incident. Also, my inside source with Merryle Lynch is real. I don't know how accurate it is though, but it is on par with the rest...

[Goalie Interference]

I don't believe anyone espouses to the purist form of there political affiliation, however; this mess was unnecessary. At least at the time. Find ole Ben 1st, then fool around with this other clown. I have lost several friends in this mess, soldiers and civilians, and "Our boy" with his arrogant persona, underestimated the treachery of these clowns over here. I taught history back in the states, and there is a quote that is relevant, "Old men send young men to die". I'm at a loss for who exactly spoke those words. Don't get me wrong; I love my country and I love these guys over here fighting for us, but unfortunately in this case, they are being used, and you folks back in the states are being manipulated through fear.

Give it a rest. Bin Laden will be found. Our military will acoomplish the task. Zarqawi will be found. Again, our military will succeed. After they are gone, someone else will eventually step into their shoes. There has always been, and always will be despots, murderers, and terrorists. Saddam Hussein was all three, and then some. In the (abridged) words of Vice President Dick Cheney, during the last V.P. debate, the attack on Iraq was very justified because Saddam Hussein's rogue government was the most likely source of weapons for terrorists, and his history of supporting terrorism provided the most reasonable link. Couple that with his murderous despotism, and the fact that his military was weak, it made the country of Iraq a relatively safe bet. Now, the seed of democracy and self control is spreading throughout the region. What our military, and the Iraqi's themselves, are doing will forever change the course of history. Yes, lives have been lost, and that is very, very unfortunate. In perspective though, more military lives were lost in a one day training exercise, preparing for the Normandy invasion, than have been lost in this entire war. That is not meant to cheapen the sacrifices that have been made, only to put things into perspective. The military is a tool. When you join, your rights as a citizen change, and you fall under the Uniform Code of Military Justice. You are a tool. You are a pawn, and you do what you're commanded to do. And right now, our "pawns" are performing precisely like the well tuned machine that makes them so feared throughout the world.
Last word. I live in no more fear today, than I have ever lived. I always fear my government, because I know how my government works.

[tmorr37]

Who said "Old men send young men to die" no doubt a liberal probably back in revolutionary war and have used ever since.
You said "you folks back in the states are being manipulated through fear." By whom. Seems to me you are being used by liberals to send out proganda to unseat a republican president. Who voted on this war? you will see they all did. who votes to continally fund it, they all do.
Dems just come out a speak against it to gain power at the very stake of our countrys future.
If we did it your way we would have stopped looking for WMD and leave, sooner or later dropping sanctions.
We would have never known about the 60 billion dollar oil for food program. Gee what would saddam do with that money, give it to his poor people ? bla bla bla bla
I am tired of talking about this, If ya don't get it now you never will.
why would you even bother to invest in dinars why are you here in this forum. liberals don't buy dinars it will never work remember. They hate they always will so why try.
maybe if we send US tax money to terrorist they will like us. thats the liberal answer

[Spiderman]

Boy we are somethin else! Anyway, "peace to ya'lls and yoin" I'm headed home. It is 6 pm here in the kuwaitee desert. :wave:

[tmorr37]

Bin Laden Bin Laden Bin Laden
WHO CARES
Killed or captured he is just a man and it will not matter nor will it stop terrorism

[nyinvest]

Spiderman is lucky he isn't in Texas. He might have a big flamming "Z" out front of his domicile.

[Tater Salad]

Guys are you all hearing me? I am definately not a liberal! Please! A libertarian is republican with courage. The republican clown's have y'all running like scared chickens while the Democrate clowns are basically setting us up for... Anyway if you guys don't want to hear the truth here is a rumor that will make the cry babies pacified: My inside source from Merrle Lynche says that per "Y'all's Boy", the Dinar will be "Pegged" this August. Sorry I could not attach a numerical date. :no: That's Uhm, Uhm, Uhm. PAWNS.


I noticed that you are originally from Atlanta. I am a Georgia Boy also. We Republicans here in Georgia certainly respect Libertarians - we just don't vote for any of 'em. Libertarians just don't fare well at all here in Georgia elections.

I just don't see people here outside Atlanta "running scared". Georgia voted for President Bush by a LARGE margin. Even Zell Miller (our former DEMOCRATIC senator) voted for and SUPPORTED President Bush. Also, if we were running scared on this board, we wouldn't be investing in the Iraqi dinar, one way or another. Y'all have a good dinar day.

And, thanks for the rumor about the Iraqi dinar. :)

[PennStateMtnMan]

When I was in Iraq in 1991, I was prepared for the worst. I believe every military member is prepared in some way or another because we knew just like Police Officers, Firefighters, Window Washers, Coal Miners and other fine occupations that we could be killed at anytime. The United States will do everyting possible to make sure human lives are not sacrificed; however, it still happens. I was talking to a pilot from Greece once and he was just amazed how the United States would risk 50 people to save one downed pilot.

Spiderman, I respect your opinions to a point. I disliked Bill Clinton; however, when he took military action (Wag the Dog), I still supported him and our respective leaders in Congress. I will always support our military through thick and thin because I was honored to be part of military.

I hope your contact with Merryl Lynche (or however you spell it) is correct and is giving you good information. Our fine and beloved President is not running the Central Bank of Iraq.

[swartzfeger]

I'm really sorry that my 1st thread is a pessimistic one... however, the Dinar will not open up until George Bush is finished with his war. If it opens before, a good portion of expat contract workers will up and leave (KBR, ITT ect). There would be an exodus not seen since biblical times. If this happens... well, I don't even want to say

Spidey, as a libertarian/republican hybrid, I can appreciate many of your points.

However, you're not giving nearly enough credit to people that 'support' the war. To quote my grandmother, I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday. We aren't stupid. It's clear why Russia, France, Germany et al were vehemently against the war. Throw in other issues like China's growing oil needs, Venezuela and a host of other seemigly unrelated issues and I think it's clear the 'Bush Doctrine' is positively brilliant (albeit implemented poorly).

We wouldn't even be discussing this if the WMDs hadn't ended up in the Bekaa Valley. :)

[ShadowMaster]

It's not hard to understand...really. The war may have been a mistake to some, but pulling out early would have been a disaster. Just because someone isn't a conservative doesn't mean they don't support our troops, and that doesn't mean they should take any crap for holding dinar.

There's too much ignorant conservatives on this board IMHO. Seriously, we're not in elementary school, kids...chill.

[bottlebush]

If this is how you react now, I'd hate to see what you would say or do to someone with a differing opinion, on a more serious topic.

And Thanks! I hope i meet more people with open minds.

Well I have a thinking mind.
And also smart enough to just
Stay out of all this Darn, Stupid Bickering.
there should be a place for y'all to argue
I really don't enjoy y'all fighting On & On & On & On & On
And i'm sure that I am not alone on this.
If someone differs with someones outlook .
And it gets wound up.
Please Please PLEASE Use the PM
Spare the rest of us from all this.
:no:

[dorrel]

I agree with you, we need a more constructive thinking here. This stuff is more of a PM nature.

[MunnyBaggs]

I'm really sorry that my 1st thread is a pessimistic one... however, the Dinar will not open up until George Bush is finished with his war. If it opens before, a good portion of expat contract workers will up and leave (KBR, ITT ect). There would be an exodus not seen since biblical times. If this happens... well, I don't even want to say

You are incorrect on several counts. First off this is not GW's war. It is Saddams and was started over a decade ago. Unfortunately the first Bush did not have the foresight to finish it. W got stuck cleaning up. I may not like the way W lead us into it, but bottom line it is the right thing to do long term for the middle east, us, and the world. Secondly the contract workers will not leave en masse, because the opening will be a modest one. Third you seem to think if they leave there will be some sort of "biblical" sized catastrophy. I suspect you believe civil war will break out, but that will not happen. BTW, all the discussion of liberal/libertarian/conservative etc labels bog down these types of debates. Stop with the labels (and I mean all of us) and stick to the topic. I'm a registered independant and do not need any entity telling me how to think on any subject.

[Spiderman]

Guys,
I am really sorry for starting this %$& ... Dang! Am I apologizing again? Anyway, debate is good for the soul. Yet I agree! we need to tone it down alittle. I initially went to this sight to get in a better mood. This sight always makes me feel good. Instead I started a mess. Hey! We all are about to be rich! Anyway sorry for the confusion. And again "I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND OUR TROOPS. I SUPPORT THEM 100%" But in my mind I know a crock when I see one. And this time It's staring me in the face.

[BlueLake]

Guys are you all hearing me? I am definately not a liberal! Please! A libertarian is republican with courage. The republican clown's have y'all running like scared chickens while the Democrate clowns are basically setting us up for... Anyway if you guys don't want to hear the truth here is a rumor that will make the cry babies pacified: My inside source from Merrle Lynche says that per "Y'all's Boy", the Dinar will be "Pegged" this August. Sorry I could not attach a numerical date. :no: That's Uhm, Uhm, Uhm. PAWNS.


My hubby is home just this past month from Iraq, I was telling him about this thread and he said, heck he cant be a liberal, if he is, he's lonely ... cause there's not many trees to hug over there. He said to ask if you might be a palm hugging liberal hehe :lmao:

[Templecityboy]

Guys,
I am really sorry for starting this %$& ... Dang! Am I apologizing again? Anyway, debate is good for the soul. Yet I agree! we need to tone it down alittle. I initially went to this sight to get in a better mood. This sight always makes me feel good. Instead I started a mess. Hey! We all are about to be rich! Anyway sorry for the confusion. And again "I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND OUR TROOPS. I SUPPORT THEM 100%" But in my mind I know a crock when I see one. And this time It's staring me in the face.
I realy don't know what you need to be sorry about. All you did was make a pragmatic observation regarding a scenario that is completely possible. Whether it turns out that way remains to be seen. You called it "Bush's War"...It is Bush's war. Just cause 55,000,000 people voted for the better of only 2 choices in a post 911 society doesn't make it our war. I personally agree that the Bush doctrine is genius in a post 911 world and admit that I voted for him because of just that. Is he an academically intelligent president?-- absolutely not! His grades and his isms prove that. Does he have the heart and the will to spread freedom and democracy in the Middle East--YES. I believe the latter is more important until 2008. We'll see then if our power retaining system will provide us with a better choice than frick and frack.
Will the dinar hit before "Bush's War" is over? Who knows-- but you made a great point. It's funny how people will call you a stupid liberal when you make a point that makes complete sense just because it slightly sounds like you you might not be a hardcore, extremist right-winger. It's so funny... I think I counted three times where you said you were not a liberal and backed it up, but you still were called a liberal because that's the only weapon that people who mock what they don't understand or want to hear can use against you.
Libertarian/Conservative/ Liberal/ Moderate--who cares?-- you made a good point. Oh... and thanks for the rumor; very nice of you considering how you were treated after your objective comment.

[BlueLake]

I luv to hear from anyone in Iraq, I feel they might have just a little better chance of catching the mood in the country, depending on who they deal with over there. Some people only support the troops and don't get to talk to the locals....Doubt that's your case Spiderman, since you said you've been there 7 years already.
I know it gets hotter than 125 in some places
Hang in there try to stay in the shade :wave:

[diva]

what was the rumor again? the war is over in august? what you heard from "mary lynch" was a rumor. what you think about the dinar opening when the war is over is your opinion. this should be moved to politics.

[NewYorkSackExchange]

This should be moved to the politics section.

[arh777]

I realy don't know what you need to be sorry about. All you did was make a pragmatic observation regarding a scenario that is completely possible. Whether it turns out that way remains to be seen. You called it "Bush's War"...It is Bush's war. Just cause 55,000,000 people voted for the better of only 2 choices in a post 911 society doesn't make it our war. I personally agree that the Bush doctrine is genius in a post 911 world and admit that I voted for him because of just that. Is he an academically intelligent president?-- absolutely not! His grades and his isms prove that. Does he have the heart and the will to spread freedom and democracy in the Middle East--YES. I believe the latter is more important until 2008. We'll see then if our power retaining system will provide us with a better choice than frick and frack.
Will the dinar hit before "Bush's War" is over? Who knows-- but you made a great point. It's funny how people will call you a stupid liberal when you make a point that makes complete sense just because it slightly sounds like you you might not be a hardcore, extremist right-winger. It's so funny... I think I counted three times where you said you were not a liberal and backed it up, but you still were called a liberal because that's the only weapon that people who mock what they don't understand or want to hear can use against you.
Libertarian/Conservative/ Liberal/ Moderate--who cares?-- you made a good point. Oh... and thanks for the rumor; very nice of you considering how you were treated after your objective comment.


Guess I should of voted for the smart one, John Kerry.

[Templecityboy]

This should be moved to the politics section.
Not everybody can access the politics section for some reason. Plus, this is only thread in a very large forum. May I suggest that if you are not interested in it's content please refrain from clicking on it. I just wanted to help Spiderman in his time of need. I've always had a soft spot for the unnderdog. :huge: Must come from being a Philly sports fan. :rolleye03 :happy26:

[NewYorkSackExchange]

Didn't mean to be so harsh.

[drtymnky]

Blast this baby to the politics section PLEASE! For those of you that can't figure out how to subscribe....please visit the user CP.

The old whiney debate is about as fresh as Tom Petty!

Get a life, take it to politics, or stick to the dinar topic. Please?

[drtymnky]

Looks like he's pinching one off. :)

How's that for mature?

[dougmyers]

Its making me sick to look at him!

[Mucho Dinaro]

monkey:


I know you are, but what am I?


I know you are, but what am I?


I know you are, but what am I?


Common everyone!! Join and regress!!

[Whats_UP]

Are correct, that just came out the other day... :happy26:

[TwoTone]

Poor spiderman, if I would have found this thread sooner I could have warned him that there is no convincing most of these people.... I also would have told him to brace for impact.


TT

[arh777]

Technically speaking Bush had a higher GPA in college than Kerry did.


Thats why I made the statement.

[messiah]

Chaka,

Not so fast! The Dinar being pegged will not send everyone home. There are legions of insurgents that have no vested interest in Iraq's economy nor its people. Its a well known that fact that many of these insurgents are streaming from Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc. Their only intent is to cause as much grief to the U.S. as possible. I hate to say this, but Iraq has literally turned into Devil's playground. Only the lesser of two evils will win this war; and of course, we know who that is - The United States of America!

[Spiderman]

Chaka,

Not so fast! The Dinar being pegged will not send everyone home. There are legions of insurgents that have no vested interest in Iraq's economy nor its people. Its a well known that fact that many of these insurgents are streaming from Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc. Their only intent is to cause as much grief to the U.S. as possible. I hate to say this, but Iraq has literally turned into Devil's playground. Only the lesser of two evils will win this war; and of course, we know who that is - The United States of America!

Guys,
Please read through the thread before you make a comment. I never said the insurgents would leave. Infact just the opposite would occur. This war's base operations is supported largely by western contractors. We are here to make money just like you guys back home. The jobs and climate are extremely tuff! Behind every 5 soldiers is one civillian contracter supporting him in some form; be it food services or ammunition supply. When the ID "Hits", it will be like winning the lottery for them/us. Every contractor I know will be headed back home to the states or Europe to be with their wives and children. Just like most of you will probably quit whatever your doing and follow some sort of dream.

[Spiderman]

I think being rude and being a loser is all your getting from being a Philly sports fan. :shhh:

"May I suggest"

Thanks Templecityboy for your support. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Anyway, I can more than handle these mislead villians. I just really don't have the time with all the crime fighting and photography :happy26: . Unfortunately, many open minded folks sit on the sidelines while others speak misinformed.

NYSE, The smileys indicate the tone of the response. Take note of them. I rarely take anything said on this bloggs personally. Life is too short.

[TwoTone]

When I was in Iraq and mortars would land near the KBR peoples living quarters, the next day they would quit by the hundreds.... The dinar hitting would have the very same effect but it would be a HUGE exodus of biblical proportions!


TT

[Spiderman]

Are any of you guys here in the Middle East?

[usajmg93f]

but I don't think it would be hard for the big guys like KBR, RMS and the many others to find replacements for the "Blue" Collar laborers. I have met many contractors and all have been good people but it does not take a high degree of advanced education to do most of the jobs. The agencies will just have to run numerous ads in local papers around the Southeast and as soon as the 6 figure salaries are shown their recruitment offices will be jam packed. I am sure they are all aware of how many of you have invested in this venture and they probably have a contengency plan for what you are talking about.

My Two Cents Worth,

[Spiderman]

but I don't think it would be hard for the big guys like KBR, RMS and the many others to find replacements for the "Blue" Collar laborers. I have met many contractors and all have been good people but it does not take a high degree of advanced education to do most of the jobs. The agencies will just have to run numerous ads in local papers around the Southeast and as soon as the 6 figure salaries are shown their recruitment offices will be jam packed. I am sure they are all aware of how many of you have invested in this venture and they probably have a contengency plan for what you are talking about.

My Two Cents Worth,

The adds are already running and most companies here are barely functioning at 60%. Folks are not trying to come over here. It took two years of convincing for me and I'm Spiderman. Bubba ain't even tryin to leave his budweiser and his Welfare check. Seriously, few positions here require minimum education. Most are highly technical or require military experience. When unqualified people are hired, they don't last long. When the 1st wave of qualified people leave, military effectiveness will diminish because of lack of support and things will get worse. But, maybe "Our Boy" and Ole Toney have planed for this and that's why they are about to draft implement draft.

[messiah]

Spiderman,

To answer your question..Are any of you guys in the middle east? The answer to that question is NO! The vast majority of us are sitting in our bedrooms, home office, or den Monday Night Quarterbacking. However, some of us have a family or friends presently serving in Iraq, which makes our interest in what's going on over there alot more important than some freakin' currency!

Spiderman, I am not going to lie, it is easy to pull for you guys and the war effort if we know in the back in my mind that we have something to gain from it. Conversely, that is far from the truth! I would take any, or all of the money back, if I was assured that each and every American fighting in Iraq would come back home, safe!

Unless, the country or its people pose a diret threat to our country, we shouldn't sacrifice our men or women for the greater good!

[Clown Spotter]

You were well hidden until you opened your mouth. :wave:

I think we all know that no one is irreplaceable. But, if you think that the contract workers over here in the Middle East who have invested in the Dinar will remain around these parts if they can take the money and run, you are sadly mistaken. We are all over here to make money. Most of us have come over here with the intention to stay a couple of years to make X amount of dollers and then go back home so we can be with our families and freinds. If the dinar comes out on the market at a fraction of what people think it will, that would be more than enough for most of these folks to cash in and take off. I've talked to a lot of people who have invested in the Dinar and the first thing they talk about is how they will be out of here once the Dinar comes out on the market. As for replacing these people, we all know that it will eventually be done. What's going to happen to the mission while replacements are found and processed. The mission doesn't go on hold. It's hard to explain to someone who hasn't been over here and seen it first hand. I know from experience what it takes to replace one or two employees when they decide to throw in the towel. Imagine what it would take to replace thousands. This is no vacation spot. People only need half a reason to take off and they're gone. I guess all we can do is wait and see. I'm all for the dinar and for all of our sakes I hope some of these rumors we've been hearing are true. I think this Forum is a great place to pass information and learn from what others have heard. Read what's posted, agree or disagree, make and intelligent comments, discuss your views and move on. IMHO

[BigE]

Are any of you guys here in the Middle East?
yes and had boots on ground, not a contractor either...this is why I strongly disagree with what some are posting. that is all i'm going to say about his issue. I love when tree huggers beat their head against the tree... :lmao: all these comments from some are so shallow. but I love this place anyway.

also....we could not have to ever consider a draft if more real men stood up in this country, it would also take care of the issue of women in combat also.. they still could if they wished. but we should have enough MEN in the country, but all we have is a bunch of tree huggers, and opinion givers. THERE NEEDS TO BE A icon on here that has a smiley face with colors of the RAINBOW on it....it's funny that in this country that most hollywood stars and liberals that are against the war fight more for "rainbow rights" than for our country as a whole. :D

[marcus]

okay everyone this is just a rumer i heard it from some friends that work in kuwait that the dealers on the gnd think that the dinar will hit the market in july ,but they had no idea at what value,anyone care to comment

[Clown Spotter]

Although I'm not in the service, I'm here in Kuwait and have been here for more years than I care to admit. I just want to give it up for all the men and women serving in the US Armed Forces and you guys and gals have all my respect. You're the best at what you do and you have all my respect. Now that that's said, "I still see you." "You've been spotted soldier boy". :shhh:

yes and had boots on ground, not a contractor either...this is why I strongly disagree with what some are posting. that is all i'm going to say about his issue. I love when tree huggers beat their head against the tree... :lmao: all these comments from some are so shallow. but I love this place anyway.

also....we could not have to ever consider a draft if more real men stood up in this country, it would also take care of the issue of women in combat also.. they still could if they wished. but we should have enough MEN in the country, but all we have is a bunch of tree huggers, and opinion givers. THERE NEEDS TO BE A icon on here that has a smiley face with colors of the RAINBOW on it....it's funny that in this country that most hollywood stars and liberals that are against the war fight more for "rainbow rights" than for our country as a whole. :D

[Lux]

Goalie, "I see you" - You were well hidden until you opened your mouth. :wave:



YOU! .........you're good!

NO!...YOU'RE GOOD!!!

http://images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/Regular/10102000/10102490.jpg

[ShadowMaster]

Thanks Templecityboy for your support. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Anyway, I can more than handle these mislead villians. I just really don't have the time with all the crime fighting and photography :happy26: . Unfortunately, many open minded folks sit on the sidelines while others speak misinformed.

NYSE, The smileys indicate the tone of the response. Take note of them. I rarely take anything said on this bloggs personally. Life is too short.

Most people here are fanatic conservatives, there's no changing their minds with logic and reason. :lmao:

[ShadowMaster]

I hear ya, loud and clear, and you come across as a self important person with a whole bunch of opinions and no facts to back them with. Kind of like most liberals I've run across. And, like most liberals, you automatically assume everyone who disagrees with you is republican. I don't carry a label on my forehead, unless you want to say conservative, or patriot. I don't walk in lock step to the party line, and I don't believe in political blind faith. You however, are very much like a number of other first time posters. Begin with snide remarks, attack people, claim to have "inside" information from "Merrle Lynche", (uhhhh Merrill Lynch), then fade into the woodwork..........
Welcome to the forum :wave:

Interesting satement since most conservatives on here branded Spiderman as a liberal simply because he disagreed with their conservative views. :rolleye03

[Goalie Interference]

Interesting satement since most conservatives on here branded Spiderman as a liberal simply because he disagreed with their conservative views. :rolleye03

The key word you missed in my statement is "like", as in "similar to". Regardless, if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it must be similar to........

[Goalie Interference]

You were well hidden until you opened your mouth. :wave:

And that's the way it'll always be......

[Whats_UP]

Most people here are fanatic conservatives, there's no changing their minds with logic and reason. :lmao:
Gee... I never thought of myself as a fanatic...just conservative... got to love those people that throw stones and live in glass houses.... :rolleye03

[drtymnky]

Stop bickering and pinch off a dinar loaf! :drunk:

[Whats_UP]

Stop bickering and pinch off a dinar loaf! :drunk:
I will stop my bickering as of now.......that picture scared the hell out of me....wait...hold that swift boat.....lol :lmao:

[airforce]

That was kinda harsh, spent part of today putting out a hazardous materials fire didnt see any military boys and girls pitchin in. They were there. So lets stick with we are all on the same team, I have met several soldiers who have done their time ; called the recruiter I gave them the number, they are now here enjoying the salary you speak of. By the way, no booze, no sex, no social life; 12-16 hr days seven days a week straight through for 4 months, and 90% of those who sign up dont make it through their first year, 40% dont come back from their 1st R and R. Obviously this is every blue collar workers dream. Just the facts, Lance P.S. 03 was hotter than this! hooha


It is tough but there are enough folks willing to do it that KBR won't be devastated by a dinar opening. Just about any servicemember who has separated or are about to separate would be interested in pulling a tour over there. Hell, it's the same thing we've done before (actually less than we've done before) only for a ton of money. I was replaced by a retiree who didn't know the first thing about the job and he made over 5 times what I was making. For that much money (and the ability to wear civilian clothes there) I'd go back in a heartbeat! For me to go back, I'd get tax free pay (which doesn't even matter because I get all my taxes back anyway because I'm poor), family separation pay of 150 a month, hazard duty pay at 275 a month, and per diem of 3.50 a day. Hardly worth it compared to what KBR folks make.

[Mucho Dinaro]

Interesting satement since most conservatives on here branded Spiderman as a liberal simply because he disagreed with their conservative views. :rolleye03

Yawn........

[Chaka]

how about those TWINS?????

[lordrazor1]

Most people here are fanatic conservatives, there's no changing their minds with logic and reason. :lmao:


Well that goes both ways....Most liberals are the same....so why worry about it. Deans a perfect example...

[drtymnky]

FRBBBBBRARAAAAAAAC!!!!!

:lmao:

[arh777]

$90 million for new roads and bridges



By Mohammed Mustafa



Azzaman, June 12, 2005



The Reconstruction and Housing Ministry is currently working on projects worth $90 million.



The projects include bridges, new roads, flyovers and hospitals, according to a ministry statement faxed to the newspaper.



Work is underway on the Diwaniya-Samawa highway for the construction of two more lanes to ease the flow of traffic in the south, the statement said.



A new bridge is being constructed to link the religious cities of Kufa and Najaf to facilitate movement of pilgrims during holy days, it added.



The highway between Doura in Baghdad and Yousiffiya is being repaired, the statement said.



In Basra, the foundations of a new hospital are being laid down at a total cost of nearly $5 million.



In Bayaa in Baghdad, work is proceeding on the construction of new interjections and flyovers which are expected to be ready by the end of the year.



Iraqi companies, both state-run and private, currently shoulder the reconstruction of the country.

The ministry’s projects are being implemented by local firms as insurgent attacks on foreigners have forced almost all foreign contractors to leave.

[trusteDINARisk]

Guys are you all hearing me? I am definately not a liberal! Please! A libertarian is republican with courage. The republican clown's have y'all running like scared chickens while the Democrate clowns are basically setting us up for... Anyway if you guys don't want to hear the truth here is a rumor that will make the cry babies pacified: My inside source from Merrle Lynche says that per "Y'all's Boy", the Dinar will be "Pegged" this August. Sorry I could not attach a numerical date. :no: That's Uhm, Uhm, Uhm. PAWNS.


Just remember, Spidey, when you're sitting back counting the $millions sitting in the bank that have your name on them, that it was all made possible by "Our Boy," Mr. George W. Bush!! Each & every penny you spend will be brought to you by the hands of this great leader. Another satisfied customer!! Thanks for playing. :D

[ShadowMaster]

Just remember, Spidey, when you're sitting back counting the $millions sitting in the bank that have your name on them, that it was all made possible by "Our Boy," Mr. George W. Bush!! Each & every penny you spend will be brought to you by the hands of this great leader. Another satisfied customer!! Thanks for playing. :D

You can spend dirty money just as easily as clean money. :rolleye03

[Tinydancer]

You can spend dirty money just as easily as clean money. :rolleye03

...I am sure the "families", over in Iraq...the childen and husbands that had their mom's head put on sticks outside their homes....

won't feel that way. It is the people's money and it was about time, they all get it back....and there is nothing dirtier than evil, Mr. Shadow

[Mucho Dinaro]

You can spend dirty money just as easily as clean money. :rolleye03

Go deal drugs then......

And you are here....why???? Another big YYYAAAAWWWWNNN

[ShadowMaster]

Too many fanatic conservatives on this board. :no:

[Mucho Dinaro]

Yawn........Stupid is as stupid says....

[dougmyers]

Too many fanatic conservatives on this board. :no:
================================================== ==
That was you that said that? Well Ill be.

[ShadowMaster]

Go deal drugs then......

And you are here....why???? Another big YYYAAAAWWWWNNN

Why would I deal drugs, when I can get the same dirty money buying dinar?

[Mucho Dinaro]

Why would I deal drugs, when I can get the same dirty money buying dinar?

Whatever trips your trigger smart guy :lmao:

[Tinydancer]

....steals Shadow's wallet

[sogrgirl]

and kicks him in the tush.

shadow, why are you on this forum ????

[ShadowMaster]

and kicks him in the tush.

shadow, why are you on this forum ????

Conservatives have had their way on this forum for far too long. They are blinded by the pospect of being wealthy and ignore "our boy's" many mistakes...especially the main one...the reason we went to war in the first place. The ends do not justify the means.

[trusteDINARisk]

You can spend dirty money just as easily as clean money. :rolleye03


Dirty or clean is neither here nor there. We all do that every day, whether knowingly or unknowingly. The difference here is that we all know that whatever $$ we make off this investment, it will all be the cause of the actions & leadership of George W. Bush, whether you support him or not, and because of that, we'll all owe him some measure of thanks & gratitude whether we like it or not. There's no denying that!! :p

[ShadowMaster]

Dirty or clean is neither here nor there. We all do that every day, whether knowingly or unknowingly. The difference here is that we all know that whatever $$ we make off this investment, it will all be the cause of the actions & leadership of George W. Bush, whether you support him or not, and because of that, we'll all owe him some measure of thanks & gratitude whether we like it or not. There's no denying that!! :p

Yes, you're right about that. Right-wing conservatives think it is clean, while the rest of the USA thinks otherwise.

[trusteDINARisk]

Yes, you're right about that. Right-wing conservatives think it is clean, while the rest of the USA thinks otherwise.


BITTER, PARTY OF 1. Your table is ready!!

[Mucho Dinaro]

Yes, you're right about that. Right-wing conservatives think it is clean, while the rest of the USA thinks otherwise.


Oh, please enlighten the rest of why the REST OF THE COUNTRY thinks like you??? And again, why are you here???

[TwoTone]

Another goldfish lost in a sea of piranhas......Hang in there Shadow...Our day will come!


TT

[Mucho Dinaro]

Another goldfish lost in a sea of piranhas......Hang in there Shadow...Our day will come!


TT

another yawner.......Also. no answer to the question.....as usual

[ShadowMaster]

Oh, please enlighten the rest of why the REST OF THE COUNTRY thinks like you??? And again, why are you here???

Tell me why you think the rest of the country thinks like you?

[TwoTone]

This one should have been in the Politics forum long ago.. i'll be happy to speak my mind there about this!


TT

[Mucho Dinaro]

Tell me why you think the rest of the country thinks like you?


Don't give me that bull......back yourself up or get lost

[TwoTone]

Don't give me that bull......back yourself up or get lost


Real easy to tell some one to "back themselves up"...... Why don't you and then request the same of others?


TT

[trusteDINARisk]

Tell me why you think the rest of the country thinks like you?


Um...Shadow....TV isnt the rest of the country, just another fantasy land similar to the one you're currently living in. Just continue living in the shadows & we'll all be just fine. :shhh:

[Mucho Dinaro]

Real easy to tell some one to "back themselves up"...... Why don't you and then request the same of others?


TT


Do you want to answer for him TT??? Or have you not read all the thread?? It's also real easy to throw a bomb and run away.......something we see real regularily on this forum

[TwoTone]

I don't answer for anyone but myself... Thats one of the reasons I left the Army....From the looks of it... You spent a lot of your time spitting nails and Yawning and he stated that he feels that the ends do not justify the means.....

TT

[drtymnky]

Yes, you're right about that. Right-wing conservatives think it is clean, while the rest of the USA thinks otherwise.


Hello IM! How are ya? :wave:

[Mucho Dinaro]

Hello IM! How are ya? :wave:

Oh, Man, Monkey you may be on to something. ahahahhah...good call

[drtymnky]

Another goldfish lost in a sea of piranhas......Hang in there Shadow...Our day will come!


TT

hehehe!

Poor libs, Where's Howard Dean when you need him?

[Mucho Dinaro]

I don't answer for anyone but myself... Thats one of the reasons I left the Army....From the looks of it... You spent a lot of your time spitting nails and Yawning and he stated that he feels that the ends do not justify the means.....

TT


You are guessing wildly......notice it took you awhile to come up with that awesome comeback.....stick to electric cars......I enjoyed that debate.

[drtymnky]

Zip this one to politics, it's been butchered! :drunk:

[TwoTone]

Make fun a Howard Dean is you must, drtymnky. I applaud him for at least doing SOMETHING which is more than almost any non-GOP/NEO-CON has done.

Mucho Garbago - Again, you're only flaming and not saying anything of substance. All I did is ask that you do as you asked of others. He said that the ends do not jusify the means which is more than you have done.


TT

PS - I'm in the chat room if you want to poke in and do the 'man dance' with a flaming liberal.

[Mucho Dinaro]

Make fun a Howard Dean is you must, drtymnky. I applaud him for at least doing SOMETHING which is more than almost any non-GOP/NEO-CON has done.

Mucho Garbago - Again, you're only flaming and not saying anything of substance. All I did is ask that you do as you asked of others. He said that the ends do not jusify the means which is more than you have done.


TT


Why are you wasting your time on this forum when comedy clubs everywhere are begging for humor like yours.......stick to shadows examples of nonsubstance which was the original point and question. Again, if you don't want to speak for him.....get out and move on

[drtymnky]

Make fun a Howard Dean is you must, drtymnky. I applaud him for at least doing SOMETHING which is more than almost any non-GOP/NEO-CON has done.

Mucho Garbago - Again, you're only flaming and not saying anything of substance. All I did is ask that you do as you asked of others. He said that the ends do not jusify the means which is more than you have done.


TT

PS - I'm in the chat room if you want to poke in and do the 'man dance' with a flaming liberal.

Sorry, afraid you are a little too skilled at the "man dance" TwoTone!! :lmao:

[TwoTone]

Why are you wasting your time on this forum when comedy clubs everywhere are begging for humor like yours.......stick to shadows examples of nonsubstance which was the original point and question. Again, if you don't want to speak for him.....get out and move on

I would do comedy clubs, but I cant stand second hand smoke....I only like to smoke my cigarettes and not every one elses....



DrtyMnky- 'Man Dance' = Fight


TT

[Mucho Dinaro]

I would do comedy clubs, but I cant stand second hand smoke....I only like to smoke my cigarettes and not every one elses....



DrtyMnky- 'Man Dance' = Fight


TT

Your next date is with downtown Minneapolis.....no smoking anywhere except outside....hop to it....you're desperately needed

[drtymnky]

I would do comedy clubs, but I cant stand second hand smoke....I only like to smoke my cigarettes and not every one elses....



DrtyMnky- 'Man Dance' = Fight


TT

TT, what processor speed do you need for a chat room fight? :lmao:

[TwoTone]

I'm never flying to MN again... The freakin train terminal could not be further from the smaller Airport terminal and there is no shuttle . Thank goodness I did not have to make that trek in the middle of winter....


TT

[TwoTone]

TT, what processor speed do you need for a chat room fight? :lmao:

I wouldnt bother showing up if I was you.


TT

[Mucho Dinaro]

I'm never flying to MN again... The freakin train terminal could not be further from the smaller Airport terminal and there is no shuttle . Thank goodness I did not have to make that trek in the middle of winter....


TT


All good news

[drtymnky]

I wouldnt bother showing up if I was you.


TT

Another brave comment from TwoBone!! :lmao:

[TwoTone]

Yubecha....

[drtymnky]

Yubecha....


Battlecry for the man-dance!

Yubecha!!!! :lmao:

[TwoTone]

If you knew anything you'd know I was poking fun at the Minnesota natives...' Dont-ya-kno'....

LOL


TT

[Mucho Dinaro]

If you knew anything you'd know I was poking fun at the Minnesota natives...' Dont-ya-kno'....

LOL


TT

whew!! Good thing I'm not native.....that would have been another "poke" hahahaahah

[drtymnky]

YUBECHA!! :lmao:

[ShadowMaster]

This thread has gotten so off track. Maybe if you Right-Wing Conservatives calm down a bit we can have an intelligent discussion. :lmao:

[drtymnky]

This thread has gotten so off track. Maybe if you Right-Wing Conservatives calm down a bit we can have an intelligent discussion. :lmao:

YUBECHA!! :lmao:

[Mucho Dinaro]

This thread has gotten so off track. Maybe if you Right-Wing Conservatives calm down a bit we can have an intelligent discussion. :lmao:

Calmly waiting for all the answers to your brilliant statements.......calmly.....please enlighten us. Go back over the thread and read what you wrote and back it up.......I am asking you calmly :huge: Good enough???

[ShadowMaster]

It's not hard to understand...really. The war may have been a mistake to some, but pulling out early would have been a disaster. Just because someone isn't a conservative doesn't mean they don't support our troops, and that doesn't mean they should take any crap for holding dinar.

There's too much ignorant conservatives on this board IMHO. Seriously, we're not in elementary school, kids...chill.

Why don't you all reply to my initial post. Then I'll be happy to enlighten you all. :)

[TwoTone]

Now thats funny....Thanks Shadow

TT

[Mucho Dinaro]

Why don't you all reply to my initial post. Then I'll be happy to enlighten you all. :)


This is a statement.....I am refering to all the other things that prompted me to call you out.......pretty simple, if you don't like it you can stop posting on this thread and I will let it go as well.......because it is pointless at this point to continue dancing around what you won't answer.........calmly

[Tinydancer]

[QUOTE=ShadowMaster]Why don't you all reply to my initial post. Then I'll be happy to enlighten you all. :)[/QUOT


Welcome back










Kotter...


(you just want to be me).......what was the question again?

[ShadowMaster]

This is a statement.....I am refering to all the other things that prompted me to call you out.......pretty simple, if you don't like it you can stop posting on this thread and I will let it go as well.......because it is pointless at this point to continue dancing around what you won't answer.........calmly

This was my initial post. I see you're too afraid to even post a comment. This is give and take...you know, fair play? Don't be such a conservative! Grow a spine! :lmao:

[Mucho Dinaro]

Now thats funny....Thanks Shadow

TT


Well, I guess I am glad someone got whatever that meant :confused:


Mpls......comedy club.....I'm telling ya TT....you are the man for the job.....that type of humor is ooooozing from you.

[bagzz]

..... why is it in the rumors section, and where (if anywhere) is it going?

Who are these Spiderman and Shadow master characters?

This thread has gotten so off track. Maybe if you Right-Wing Conservatives calm down a bit we can have an intelligent discussion. :lmao:

First off, what "track" was this thread ever on? Secondly, from what I've seen, you've contributed exactly JACK to the discussion and think that labeling sombody as "Right-Wing Conservatives" you've gained some form of high ground. :lmao:

In fact, it looks like you used the word "Conservatives" in eight out of twelve of your posts.
http://www.investorsiraq.com/search.php?searchid=277038

But not a single one of your posts included insight of any kind. Please forgive us for not taking a non-contributing, lightweight with a chip on his shoulder seriously.

Make fun a Howard Dean is you must, drtymnky. I applaud him for at least doing SOMETHING which is more than almost any non-GOP/NEO-CON has done.

Mucho Garbago - Again, you're only flaming and not saying anything of substance. All I did is ask that you do as you asked of others. He said that the ends do not jusify the means which is more than you have done.


TT

PS - I'm in the chat room if you want to poke in and do the 'man dance' with a flaming liberal.

OK, TwoTone, I'll bite, what has he "done" that you applaud him for? Turned into a hateful, flame-spitting, conspiracy theory advancing lunatic? Well, I can see why that would appeal to you, but don't see that he has "accomplished" anything. Or are you talking about how DNC contributions have decreased substantially since he's been named head of the party, and many in the Democratic party are calling for him to step down because his rants are doing the party more harm than good. Although I'd say any damage to one of the major parties (especailly the Democrats) is a good thing, somehow I don't think that YOU would see this as an "accomplishment".

So, once again, I'm asking you to back up your own words. I'm sure you'll see this as another 'attack' on you, but oh well, I'll have to run that risk, hopfully I can sleep tonight.

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm a libertarian. I just have a non US conservative media propaganda perspective on what's going on here. Been here 7 years and this war... Well, let's stop on the politics and get back to Rumors :D
Really, US media is conservative? Damn, have I been fooled. And good job with that "and this war........" Wouldn't want you to grow a pair and actually make a statement that you may have to back-up. Nah, just infer something and move on, nobody will notice.

Thanks Templecityboy for your support. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Anyway, I can more than handle these mislead villians. I just really don't have the time with all the crime fighting and photography :happy26: . Unfortunately, many open minded folks sit on the sidelines while others speak misinformed.

NYSE, The smileys indicate the tone of the response. Take note of them. I rarely take anything said on this bloggs personally. Life is too short.

Just so I'm clear on the facts:
1 - If anybody disagrees with your unsubstantiated statements and sage wisdom, they are "misled villians"....
2 - Any statements by these "Villians" is to be taken as "misinformed speaking".

I guess it's no wonder that TCB and TT are on your side. That's pretty much their M.O. as well. TCB just uses bigger words. But most of the time reading thir posts is like eating those styrofoam-ish rice cakes, totally unfulfilling. Sometimes they have a little flavor, but their posts remain nutritionally insignificant when it comes to any type of support for thier arguments other than, "cuz that's what I believe and because I said so". Base a post on what you think or feel and that should be the end of it. When anybody counters (often with relavant material to back up their case), so what, just call them conservatives, ignore their posts and continue to post what you think as absolute truth.

For the record, I'm a libertarian, which is why I'm not a member of the Libertarian Party which, although it philosophically matches my ideology closer than any other party, has become way too inflexable in it's interpretation on many key issues and has become SO bent on ideological purity, that it is daily losing good libertarians that don't toe the party line. Much of what turns those unfamiliar off to the Libertarian party is smug know-it-alls like you who seem to believe that calling themselves libertarians makes whatever they say the absolute truth. If what you're saying is the absolute truth, it should be rather easy to prove. So if it's "Bush's war", case closed, there must be countless references on the internet alone that Google or LexisNexis will give you in a fraction of a second. There must be something damning out there other than a bunch of people saying that it's Bush's war or a War for oil or any of a number of other unsubstantiated claims that proves your point. You wouldn't be calling everybody else misled villans unless you had something to base your claims on, so please enlighten all of us so you don't have to put up with any more of OUR "misled speaking".

If you can't, why should you be taken any more seriously than any of the other Bush haters with their unsubstantiated rants. Oh, I forgot, you're not a liberal, you're a libertarian.

Give me a break!

So if you're going to be so condesending, please, please, please, enlighten us all. Until then, let me try and take your posts seriously:

[airforce]

hear hear......good post

[Aunt Gwennie]

This thread is no longer showing any intelligent discussion.

Take the bickering to PMs

AG