Updated Dinar World Debut prediction.

[MunnyBaggs]

Hello all. I hope you are enjoying your weekend. I plan to head out in a couple hours to the Old Chicago here in town for some great Italian food. Their salad and Lasagna is the best in town. They also carry a large assortment of import and domestic beers. Enjoy the weekend and help stimulate your local economies. Anyway I've re-calculated my ever changing prediction as to when the Iraqi Dinar will be released to the World's markets. My last prediction had been anywhere from Sept. 1 to Jan 21 of 06. I've adjusted both ends of the spectrum to take into account recent and future events that can effect the success of the Dinar.

At the current moment I project the earliest Iraq will release the Dinar would be Sept. 21. We need at least 8 weeks of sustained reduction in insurgency attacks before the Dinar will be released. That period of time must be squeezed in between today and Sept. 21. It is very likely that date may be adjusted back in a later updated projection.

I also have to open up the back end of my projected time period until I can study and narrow it down a bit further. I have to now say that instead of Jan 21, 06 I'm moving the back end to September 30th of 06. I truely believe this date is the very last date that the Dinar would be opened to the World stage. Most likely it shall be earlier than that, but for now that would be the far end limit of the Dinar debut. I'll post further projections as data becomes available. Have patience, fellow Dinar dieharts. I feel for those that have been ahead and holding for a longer period of time but the payoff date looms much closer than farther at this stage. Now go out and have a GOOD TIME!!! :cool:

[BrerRabbit]

After reading most of the posts on this here forum I've come to the conclusion the Dinar will be exchangeable on or before the date the ISX goes global. The info presented here says some time in Sept '05 at the latest. I also believe the Dinar will be revalued prior to the ISX going global for the benefit to those in country and to the 'connected' elsewhere. This will all come to pass in the next couple months.

My two theories...

[H2OLover]

After reading most of the posts on this here forum I've come to the conclusion the Dinar will be exchangeable on or before the date the ISX goes global. The info presented here says some time in Sept '05 at the latest. I also believe the Dinar will be revalued prior to the ISX going global for the benefit to those in country and to the 'connected' elsewhere. This will all come to pass in the next couple months.

My two theories...
I too think the dinar will have gone up in value before the ISX opens. Seems there is a September date for the ISX to opens its doors to the world. the wild card is the insurgency and how a revalue of the dinar would effect there efforts to over throw the new goverment ..JMHO

[JeffreyW]

I believe it will take time to defeat the insurgency but we will win.....Dinar will be strong and we will be millionaires....Only Time Will Tell...thats all...TIME!

[R-MAN]

i think the dinar will come out before the isx opens up.if the isx opens first, then with the low value of the dinar,everyone would be buying mega shares of stocks, and you (anyone) could become a majority shareholder,and the value of these companies wouldnt be worth much at that time...how would you like to become majority shareholder of Pepsi Baghdad..just my opinion.

[bottlebush]

i think the dinar will come out before the isx opens up.if the isx opens first, then with the low value of the dinar,everyone would be buying mega shares of stocks, and you (anyone) could become a majority shareholder,and the value of these companies wouldnt be worth much at that time...how would you like to become majority shareholder of Pepsi Baghdad..just my opinion.

Search Warka. They are going International in 68 days. See thier Website for all the services that will be in place Sept. 1
Now===When do ya think all this is gonna break loose??????

Wonder why all have NOT been lookin or commenting on that fact :confused:

[dougmyers]

In the year 2525 if man is still alive, If woman can survive.
We will still be posting its going to open by sept.

The movie the time machine, we will be sitting at our PC,s while the rest of the world is changing around us. Trees will grow and die before your very eyes. World wars will come and go, cars will change to Atomic partical movers, from place to place.

We will have people living on other planets, and Robbie the Robot will take care of them, while we post its going to happen soon, right Lance!




Just Kidding I am thinking this year some time! For sure next year some time, and for sure really sure the year after next some time.

Pretty good guess I bet!

[BrerRabbit]

I dont think the insurgency has all that much to do with the Dinar. Afganistan still has a active group of a$$holes and they have not had an effect on the currency. All they can produce is a mild form of anarchy. They will be dealt with in time.

[bert]

i hope sometime this year.i still get a little worried if they get the elections,and a prem goverment done before the dinar opens.the old talk of a new currency after the elections still gets me thinking.

[airforce]

I too don't believe the insurgency will have as large of an effect on the valuation of the dinar as many have led on in the past. In fact, I tend to think a strong dinar is a weapon against the insurgency. People fight when they have nothing to lose. If Iraq does well by Iraqi's, then Iraqi's will protect what they're proud of (sorry for the oversimplification). The dinar would only make since to open up on the world market before the ISX. It seems a little out of sorts to be trading on a stock exchange with currency not recognized by the rest of the world. But, what do I know?

[Tyreds Tale]

After reading most of the posts on this here forum I've come to the conclusion the Dinar will be exchangeable on or before the date the ISX goes global. The info presented here says some time in Sept '05 at the latest. I also believe the Dinar will be revalued prior to the ISX going global for the benefit to those in country and to the 'connected' elsewhere. This will all come to pass in the next couple months.

My two theories...

Hey Rabbit, I thought we decided the tortoise wins the race? :wave:

Plus, Dr. who predicted an opening of the ISX before the dinar debut. I'm now thinking by March '06 for the debut.

[BrerRabbit]

Hey Rabbit, I thought we decided the tortoise wins the race? :wave:

Plus, Dr. who predicted an opening of the ISX before the dinar debut. I'm now thinking by March '06 for the debut.

The tortoise won 'cause that rabbit got overconfident and went to sleep.

This rabbit ain't sleeping through this race. ;)

[Realtor]

You have a good point :happy64:

[MunnyBaggs]

Interesting points made here. First off the fact that Warka is adding a Visa debit card and internet access to their bank is not an indicator of when the Dinar will be released World wide. I'm not saying the Dinar cannot open July 1 or Aug 1 or Sept. 1. It can but most likely won't. If the entire Iraq banking system upgraded by Sept 1, that may be another matter. That could potentially be a sign the Dinar release is immanent. Also keep in mind the release date is not as significant as some seem to think. It's definitely a positive and yes I'll be happy happy sky high, but it's not that big a deal. We all know it will happen, but when it happens won't mean as much as the actual VALUE of the Dinar. We know the past value, we know the current value, and we can probably accurately project the future value maybe even with a rough timetable.

1. The Dinar supply and value. These are tied together. This factor is not a big deal in when the Dinar is released but is an indicator of value. Let's face facts here, folks. The Iraqi economy is not going to recover because a handful of people are buying Dinar off of E-bay and opening accounts in one Iraq bank branch. We need worldwide investment to make that happen. The Dinar has been stable and has risen since it's 2003 new style debut This has occured during a war with terrorists.

2. The second indicator would be some resolution about the status of Iraqs debt relief situation. We'll have this aspect most likely taken care of over the next several months. They won't get 100% debt relief but will gain some. The higher the better and the higher would reveal the World's confidence in the future potential of Iraq's economy. The good news is even if the debt relief is low the Iraq economy will still thrive and fairly quickly. It may mean a slightly slower increase in the value of the Dinar, but it will not stop that increase.

3. The "insurgency". You are partially correct here. The insurgency will most likely continue for another 3 or 4 years. The real question is at what level will it continue at? If Iraq were to release the Dinar while having 70 terrorist attacks a day it would stall out. Countries are not going to buy oil contracts while the supply continues to be attacked. Investing in a country that has a media and world perception for potential civil war will not happen. It's a matter of an attitude ajustment and appealing to the greed of France, Germany, Russia, etc. The best success for Iraq can be achieved by releasing the Dinar when world perception changes to believe their Democracy will succeed and war seems unlikely. You'll need at least 8 to 12 weeks of sustained reduced terrorist attacks to do this. You can look to the 06 USA elections as an indicator as well. Bush wants this thing resolved ahead of election date. That's why things best be going great by my "ending" date of Sept. 30 of 06. The heat is on him to make this work. And that is a good thing.

[dougmyers]

Airport closed?
Re-routing of air travel?
ISX- stalling on current posting of prices?
Banks getting setup for on-line banking?
Change in amount of Dinar in and out of country by people.
Iraq Police are fighting back and winning.
Iraqi citizens are helping fight insurgents.
Possible up comming announcements in Iraq very soon.

Other clues to look for!

CBI change on internet site.
Dinar slows down selling at auctions.
Possability of Borders closing or other activity about borders.
Insurgents make piece with Iraq Government, news.
And then there is always just the flat out news it has changed from this to this!

[MunnyBaggs]

Yes all those are part of the equation. The bottom line is value. Like I said we know the Dinar will be put on the world market and it'll happen anytime from today until a few months before the 06 US elections. That is a certainty. I still say it'll be Sept 21, 05 to (updated in another post/thread) July 31, 06 when the Dinar is world marketed. While that date is significant, more importantly is when the VALUE begins it's rise. And how much/fast it will rise. After that each of us will have to determine their personal level of increased value to make the next individual moves.

[Kim]

MB, I think you are correct in your predictions. Although I would love to see July be the date, I don't think it is realistics. Alot of what is happening right now is security related. They are expecting an insurgency uprise with the Anniversary of the take over and July 4th. But then again..???

[Sporter]

The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or the favor to the learned; but time and chance happens to them all.Ecclesiates 9:9

[F355]

The post re the isx not updating for a few weeks was incorrect...the post cited isx-data...not the official ISX site. :no:

[Gerardo]

I hope all this talk about a July opening is true because I'm close to completely losing my mind from family and work-related catastrophies.

[EJAMM]

Money can be a powerful motivator. Imagine if your government suddenly become wealthy enough to buy all the equipment it needed to stand alone in the fight against the insurgence. What a way for GWB to bow out of Iraq, claiming they are stable enough to pay their own way. You could also utilize the money to "peruade" would-be suicide bombers to stay alive by flashing cash their way. All in all it would not be a bad idea for the US to try to push for a high peg on the Dinar...if they actually have influence in that arena.

[PghRiverRat]

Yes all those are part of the equation. The bottom line is value. Like I said we know the Dinar will be put on the world market and it'll happen anytime from today until a few months before the 06 US elections. That is a certainty. I still say it'll be Sept 21, 05 to (updated in another post/thread) July 31, 06 when the Dinar is world marketed. While that date is significant, more importantly is when the VALUE begins it's rise. And how much/fast it will rise. After that each of us will have to determine their personal level of increased value to make the next individual moves.
What equation? Whose equation? There is not a single fact in your statements that leads me to believe that this is any type of 'rumor' whatsoever. Everything you say makes sense, but it's completely opinion. What do you have, concerning the world market and economics, that substantiates any of this? What makes any of these dates significant other than the fact that you say they are? I'm just trying to see the difference between a good rumor and somebody's opinion. Again, while it all makes sense, you seem to be 'backing into' a scenario that everyone just wants to believe. Explain your sources, if you can please.

[fms]

What equation? Whose equation? There is not a single fact in your statements that leads me to believe that this is any type of 'rumor' whatsoever. Everything you say makes sense, but it's completely opinion. What do you have, concerning the world market and economics, that substantiates any of this? What makes any of these dates significant other than the fact that you say they are? I'm just trying to see the difference between a good rumor and somebody's opinion. Again, while it all makes sense, you seem to be 'backing into' a scenario that everyone just wants to believe. Explain your sources, if you can please.

If you care to notice, MB posted this in the dinar forum, It was moved to the rumors forum. I believe this to be his opinion. Therefore his statements are his equation, based on certain rumors and facts that have come about, or are soon to occur. Also the title of this thread says it all. I personally feel that he may be correct. :happy26:

[staticX]

Don't put too much into the electronic banking details. This would not stop the currency from going worldwide. How advanced is Afghanistan?

[Panther]

Yes all those are part of the equation. The bottom line is value. Like I said we know the Dinar will be put on the world market and it'll happen anytime from today until a few months before the 06 US elections. That is a certainty. I still say it'll be Sept 21, 05 to (updated in another post/thread) July 31, 06 when the Dinar is world marketed. While that date is significant, more importantly is when the VALUE begins it's rise. And how much/fast it will rise. After that each of us will have to determine their personal level of increased value to make the next individual moves.

HI MB

The way you present your conclusions, your analysis seems to be inclusive of many aspects that may be weighted or not.

Wondering if you would mind taking the time to give us at least a rough outline of what factors you use to select a range of dates?

[swartzfeger]

Don't put too much into the electronic banking details. This would not stop the currency from going worldwide. How advanced is Afghanistan?

Unbeknownst to the West, Afghanistan is close to unveiling the first warp drive. Besides advanced warp technlogy, Kabul has a surfeit of goats, rocks, sticks, and burned-out carcasses of Soviet-era T-55 tanks.

[drtymnky]

Unbeknownst to the West, Afghanistan is close to unveiling the first warp drive. Besides advanced warp technlogy, Kabul has a surfeit of goats, rocks, sticks, and burned-out carcasses of Soviet-era T-55 tanks.

How can I get one of those warp drives??

[swartzfeger]

How can I get one of those warp drives??

I'm meeting Karzai next week at Berlin's hot ticket "Germany's Glorious History of Empathy and Minority Tolerance" Symposium. I'll put in a good word.

No promises, though.

[MunnyBaggs]

What equation? Whose equation? There is not a single fact in your statements that leads me to believe that this is any type of 'rumor' whatsoever. Everything you say makes sense, but it's completely opinion. What do you have, concerning the world market and economics, that substantiates any of this? What makes any of these dates significant other than the fact that you say they are? I'm just trying to see the difference between a good rumor and somebody's opinion. Again, while it all makes sense, you seem to be 'backing into' a scenario that everyone just wants to believe. Explain your sources, if you can please.

An actual "equation" with all the factors involved would be extremely hard to put together. You'd have to take each factor and weigh it numerically based on probability. It may be able to be done but no real need for it as using the current time line and major events will be just as accurate. I'd like to once again reiterate that it could open at any time. There is no one that can say 100% exactly when it will open. But we can say with 100% certainty that it will open and we can estimate it based on upcoming observed events. Dinar supply/value, debt relief, and the "insurgency" are only 3 factors but are some of the bigger ones. I believe as time continues value and debt will be known quantities and "taken care of". It truely comes down to value and the "insurgency". Bottom line is the sooner the "insurgency" is abated the sooner the Iraqis can reap the rewards of their natural assets. Once that is in play the value of the Dinar can rise and potentially at a rate faster than other "high risk" ventures.

[dougmyers]

I am giving it 20 Days to open.
20 Days or sooner.

[bottlebush]

I am giving it 20 Days to open.
20 Days or sooner.


I've known when it will open
Y'all think I would make the statement here???
I'm NOT going to get all the DAMN
Prove it, Prove it, Who said, When, How do you know, Who told you, give us a link, Your a lier., Your stupid, Etc. Etc. Etc.
And On & On & On

Just Y'all BE PATIENT. Enjoy Enjoy
And quit >>GRILLIN<<< the messengers
The treatment here has convinced me to NOT post anything like that.

I made the factual statement here a loooong time ago.
NOBODY even realized it. Go Figure :shhh:

[H2OLover]

ahhhhhhh tempting me to go back and check your post are you .. ;)

[dorrel]

Bottlebrush, do you concure with Dougmyers?



I've known when it will open
Y'all think I would make the statement here???
I'm NOT going to get all the DAMN
Prove it, Prove it, Who said, When, How do you know, Who told you, give us a link, Your a lier., Your stupid, Etc. Etc. Etc.
And On & On & On

Just Y'all BE PATIENT. Enjoy Enjoy
And quit >>GRILLIN<<< the messengers
The treatment here has convinced me to NOT post anything like that.

I made the factual statement here a loooong time ago.
NOBODY even realized it. Go Figure :shhh:

[shellie01]

I've known when it will open
Y'all think I would make the statement here???
I'm NOT going to get all the DAMN
Prove it, Prove it, Who said, When, How do you know, Who told you, give us a link, Your a lier., Your stupid, Etc. Etc. Etc.
And On & On & On
Just Y'all BE PATIENT. Enjoy Enjoy
And quit >>GRILLIN<<< the messengers
The treatment here has convinced me to NOT post anything like that.



Kinda the pot calling the kettle black there BB. You used to do the same thing. I guess it's just natural to want to know more sometimes. I see how it could get old though. This is your post in case you don't believe me. LOL

A high ranking official?????????
Prefers to remain anymous????????
And here the latest from an "anomumous" high ranking bank offical.
Sounds like the evening news to me.
Sorry >"< Not tryin to bash ya.
I just need proof.
I really hope this is a true statement though. But, I am just tired of getting my hopes up all the time. Can you point to the source of this rumor?

Now this intrigued me: I made the factual statement here a loooong time ago.
NOBODY even realized it. Go Figure :shhh:

So i'm wondering if this is what you are talking about.... these are all your posts.
11/04/2004
Ideas???
I remember someone saying his friend in Iraq said on the subject of the Dinar value> Have a Great Christmas.
0.43 keeps popping up I am learning to keep the faith

Just==Patience
I posted many months ago that it will be Happy Holidays.
Nobody took notice.
Another member got the same comment from someone ( an Iraqi friend)
What did he get ===
Ohhhh heck== I'm gonna jump into

There was also a time when you seemed to believe a rumor posted by Munich-Jack. He mentioned a .43 opening he had heard from an Iraqi friend...also Germany and debt forgiveness was mentioned.

So am I correct in assuming that you are expecting a "Happy Holiday" with a .43 opening...possibly starting in Germany first?

hmmmmmm? :D

[dougmyers]

But he is not saying the year of the Holiday.

[sogrgirl]

I was thinking it was his post that said it would happen when there was a sovereign government in place.

am I right BB????

[shellie01]

It could be...look at us all guessing now. :D See BB, we listen to ya. :)

[BugmanIraq]

Honestly. I don't think anyone, including the Iraqi government knows when the dinar is going to open to the international market. Far too many unknowns at this time.
Sure it would be nice this year. I'll be here in Iraq until it hits at a decent mark or 2007. Whichever comes first.

[eosirl2]

I've known when it will open
Y'all think I would make the statement here???
I'm NOT going to get all the DAMN
Prove it, Prove it, Who said, When, How do you know, Who told you, give us a link, Your a lier., Your stupid, Etc. Etc. Etc.
And On & On & On

Just Y'all BE PATIENT. Enjoy Enjoy
And quit >>GRILLIN<<< the messengers
The treatment here has convinced me to NOT post anything like that.

I made the factual statement here a loooong time ago.
NOBODY even realized it. Go Figure :shhh:

Me thinks you are stealing Lance's limelight. Don't be a tease. You won't burst my bubble. See I've learned from you ;)

[ramis]

John Kerry has written an article in todays NYT about president Bush's speech and has offered some good advice.

I doubt that GWB will propose anything useful, as usual. :(

[lordrazor1]

John Kerry has written an article in todays NYT about president Bush's speech and has offered some good advice.

I doubt that GWB will propose anything useful, as usual. :(


You don't seem to be either...So if you have some good info please post it.

[mudbug]

i've been reading threads on this site for a few months now and some of the rumours total rubish. who's this lance guy? Hey remmie, Nice first post. I'm sure you've made lots of friends at this party.

Yes, we've all heard these rumors since this time last year. I'ts different now for several reasons and if you have been lurking then you should know.

If it does open in July, it came from another very credible forum member. It's there for everyone to see, if you know how to read between the lines.

Lance has been a good friend to this forum. He gives us the best information he's got after at least trying to confirm the source. Tough job at best.

Doubt you'll be invited to the big party. MB

[Chaka]

I'm standing by prediction of after the G8 - July 15th

[mike55]

i've been reading threads on this site for a few months now and some of the rumours total rubish. who's this lance guy? in my mind he's just someone who likes getting your hopes up. anyway here is my two pennies worth.
59% of americans now oppose going to war in iraq 46% want their troops out. bush is loosing faith with the american public so his speech tonight will be about supporting the war effort and keeping faith with his administration. the dinar will not peg this year but when it does i believe it could be high. just imagine all the wealthy iragis that lost their fortunes when the sadam dinar became worthless the government has to pay them back somehow and a high peg will do that. i also believe that america may have been on the brink of a reccession and the war on iraq was a diversion. after all it takes a lot of resources to fight a war and bush did say that it was ok to buy the dinar which tells me he went to war for three reasons;
1/ to secure oil rights
2' to allow americans to buy low and sell high thus gaining economic stability. after all its better to have 20 millionaires than to have 20 paupers.
3/ to get rid of sadman.

bush's speech won't be anything fantastic so go out and have a few beers. That's really a heck of a way to introduce yourself Remmie... not so nice, but not as bad as some of the immature people in the forum. Welcome aboard! have fun....:happy26:

[airforce]

Chaka, what happened to the little ugly monkey kid avatar. Wasn't that character from some movie, like Land of the Lost or something like that?

[dejavu]

I'm standing by prediction of after the G8 - July 15th

I can deal with that too :)

[mudbug]

I'm standing by prediction of after the G8 - July 15th

Hey Chaka, I think the bird dog just went on point. MB

[Chaka]

Chaka, what happened to the little ugly monkey kid avatar. Wasn't that character from some movie, like Land of the Lost or something like that?
I'll bring it back when i get a chance- current av is the new Queensryche album cover (click sig for full photo)

[RET]

Thanks for not saying who it really is, Chaka. :shhh:

July 15th, ehhhh?

[Chaka]

modification July 15th is Friday- their weekend

moving to July 14th

[Dinar Is Served!]

I've known when it will open
Y'all think I would make the statement here???
I'm NOT going to get all the DAMN
Prove it, Prove it, Who said, When, How do you know, Who told you, give us a link, Your a lier., Your stupid, Etc. Etc. Etc.
And On & On & On

Just Y'all BE PATIENT. Enjoy Enjoy
And quit >>GRILLIN<<< the messengers
The treatment here has convinced me to NOT post anything like that.

I made the factual statement here a loooong time ago.
NOBODY even realized it. Go Figure :shhh:

OK...this is a rumor board so out with it...was it .43 @ Christmas time? Ha-ha!

[H2OLover]

Now i like all your post but i did some digging and here is the post that i think i love the most.

I -Have lost touch with my ARAB friend who escaped from there when Saddam was still in power..
Just about the time that the NID was available for me to get. I showed him some of them.
He then picked up 4 of the 25,000 dinar bills and said ====
this is going to be one million dollars. I asked when???
He said, When they have an elected government. The world will make this worth one million dollars.
Where is he??? Most likely, back there. He was worth millions to begin with over there.

Now that is a RUMOR !!

[Tinydancer]

Aren't you just a ray of sunshine this morning.....




some of the rumours total rubish.
...
and here I thought a rumor was a rumor..go figure.

"(Bush)",someone who likes getting your hopes up.

I don't know about you, but I love high hopes...High in sky.. High Hopes. It makes life happy.
Postive thinking over negative thinking. I think that is one reason why our President got elected over what's his name... The positive thinkers elected him, and the negative thinkers went home to put catsup on their spoiled beans..

"anyway here is my two pennies worth".

thank you for sharing your "rubbish"..<g>

"his speech tonight will be about supporting the war effort and keeping faith with his administration".

Go George W! I mean afterall, he is the President of the USA. According to the facts, and not the (pre-election) poll attempt figures. Our President is making alot of "World", history. I know how disappointed the other party is about that, since they have made very little lately... Faith and Support..I like those words. They are good words to live by. Good words for any leader of any country to use, too.

"the dinar will not peg this year but when it does i believe it could be high". I like that..

"just imagine all the wealthy iragis that lost their fortunes when the sadam dinar became worthless the government has to pay them back somehow and a high peg will do that".

Just imagine all the poor Iraq people, that were made even poorer with a currency Saddam, made only for himself. Just imagine Iraq, now with a currency of their own.....nothing talks wealth better than that. Whatever they get now, is well earned and will be, within a free country that they are fighting now to have.

"i also believe that america may have been on the brink of a reccession and the war on iraq was a diversion".

thank you again for sharing your "rubbish".

If my memory serves me correctly...since I was in and around NY that day...I think I remember our airplanes hitting the World Trade Center, and the Pentagon....or maybe I am in post traumatic stress and making it up....but I do remember an attack inside our country.......and anthrax in our mail...
and moore, (did I say moore, sorry), more threats of killing people inside our country, in massive amounts.. If those are not fighting words..well then...I don't know what is..


I think you are missing one fact among many with your rubbish, (I mean rumors or opinions)... Iraq has a leader. It is not our President. Iraq makes their decisions not the USA. The USA and other countries are there to help. The fact that Iraq is going to be a country, the World will recognize with respect...is so hard for the opposing political parties to accept....because they cannot take credit for it now..

bush's speech won't be anything fantastic so go out and have a few beers.

I have about forty Republicans coming for a knocked out party tonight, with the TV tuned in on FOX NEWS, to watch it all...heck, I think I am going to tape it too....it's History in the making and we will not miss it for the world..!...

thank you for sharing and welcome to the forum...

[Dinaress]

Remmie must be TT's second cousin twice removed.

OHHH well,

Chaka?
What about the next donor meeting July 18-19th?
Suppose to have the remaining donor countries that have not made commitments on debt relief.

[SOMF]

i've been reading threads on this site for a few months now and some of the rumours total rubish. who's this lance guy? in my mind he's just someone who likes getting your hopes up. anyway here is my two pennies worth.
59% of americans now oppose going to war in iraq 46% want their troops out. bush is loosing faith with the american public so his speech tonight will be about supporting the war effort and keeping faith with his administration. the dinar will not peg this year but when it does i believe it could be high. just imagine all the wealthy iragis that lost their fortunes when the sadam dinar became worthless the government has to pay them back somehow and a high peg will do that. i also believe that america may have been on the brink of a reccession and the war on iraq was a diversion. after all it takes a lot of resources to fight a war and bush did say that it was ok to buy the dinar which tells me he went to war for three reasons;
1/ to secure oil rights
2' to allow americans to buy low and sell high thus gaining economic stability. after all its better to have 20 millionaires than to have 20 paupers.
3/ to get rid of sadman.

bush's speech won't be anything fantastic so go out and have a few beers.
remmie-

Lance does a lot of work compiling information and presenting it to the forum. If you don't like what you read in the rumors section, perhaps it is best for you to not read it.

BTW, what have you done for the forum? From your first post I see that you offer negative attitude and flaming its members... so in other words, zero value.

[staticX]

i've been reading threads on this site for a few months now and some of the rumours total rubish. who's this lance guy? in my mind he's just someone who likes getting your hopes up. anyway here is my two pennies worth.
59% of americans now oppose going to war in iraq 46% want their troops out. bush is loosing faith with the american public so his speech tonight will be about supporting the war effort and keeping faith with his administration. the dinar will not peg this year but when it does i believe it could be high. just imagine all the wealthy iragis that lost their fortunes when the sadam dinar became worthless the government has to pay them back somehow and a high peg will do that. i also believe that america may have been on the brink of a reccession and the war on iraq was a diversion. after all it takes a lot of resources to fight a war and bush did say that it was ok to buy the dinar which tells me he went to war for three reasons;
1/ to secure oil rights
2' to allow americans to buy low and sell high thus gaining economic stability. after all its better to have 20 millionaires than to have 20 paupers.
3/ to get rid of sadman.

bush's speech won't be anything fantastic so go out and have a few beers.

It sounds like you put to much faith in surveys. Do you actually want to do that? Remember the 2004 elections? We were coming out of a recession because of 9/11. I don't think President Bush will mention the dinar at all, I do think he will mention their economy.

I wish you were still lurking.

[Stash]

Remmie,

When we were attacked on 9/11 a war was declared on us.
Iraq is very much a part of that war. It really IS that simple.

[LakewayDaze!]

glad to see my first impression will be a lasting one. as this is a rumour section here is a rumour that is nearly a dead cert and that is, what for it, are you ready.

one day i will become a millionaire :happy64: :happy64:


Well I guess the news can't be ALL good now can it.

I love the Democrats new symbol or whatever that was. Thanks for that. Hilarious!!
I am a GW supporter. He is our Commander in Chief. Don't bash him around me. I don't appreciate it. If you older folks remember Merle Haggard and what he had to say about bashing the American President....I think that says it all.
Someday the world will look back and remember what a great President he was. I can't even imagine Kerry trying to fill his shoes. He is such a joke........

[staticX]

glad to see my first impression will be a lasting one. as this is a rumour section here is a rumour that is nearly a dead cert and that is, what for it, are you ready.

one day i will become a millionaire :happy64: :happy64:

I like your new rumor better.

[bottlebush]

I was thinking it was his post that said it would happen when there was a sovereign government in place.

am I right BB????

Yes. An Elected, Seated, Sovereign Government.
A finalized, popular Constitution.
All laws in place.
The world will recognize a viable, vibrant, economy.

[dougmyers]

I am giving it 20 Days to open.
20 Days or sooner.
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19 DAYS OR LESS! :happy64:

[Java]

First a little note to Remmie--If you've been lurking around this board you should be appreciative of the info, whether it be rumor, true or even false, becasue it can teach you so much about what is really going on in Iraq.
I am personally grateful for this forum becasue it helped me make a well thought out decision on purchasing my dinar. So to slam people who are just trying to share what they know, in a world of the unknown is rude.

Now, secondly--to the smart financial peeps on the board--

Wouldn't the dinar open really low? I mean if a loaf of bread cost 5 dinar, would it be smart for all of the sudden the bread to costs 25 dinar? Wouldn't that happen if the dinar right out the got pegged at say .20cents?
I'm asking becasue I truly dont know...looking for an econmist on this one..

Thanks :happy26:

[LakewayDaze!]

First a little note to Remmie--If you've been lurking around this board you should be appreciative of the info, whether it be rumor, true or even false, becasue it can teach you so much about what is really going on in Iraq.
I am personally grateful for this forum becasue it helped me make a well thought out decision on purchasing my dinar. So to slam people who are just trying to share what they know, in a world of the unknown is rude.

Now, secondly--to the smart financial peeps on the board--

Wouldn't the dinar open really low? I mean if a loaf of bread cost 5 dinar, would it be smart for all of the sudden the bread to costs 25 dinar? Wouldn't that happen if the dinar right out the got pegged at say .20cents?
I'm asking becasue I truly dont know...looking for an econmist on this one..

Thanks :happy26:

Java what is going to happen if the Dinar opens really low...like at 1 cent to the dollar? I am no economist but.........

First of all the IRAQ people are going to be pissed I think. The IRAQ Dinar had more value under Sadaam right? I think that would be a terrible insult to the IRAQ people after all the things they have gone through in the last few years.

I also think that the BIG corporations are going to start buying it all up if it comes out too low. All the people on the fence are going to fall down on OUR side and start buying it as well. If they come out at say 50 cents to the dollar then yeah it is going to cost a lot of money for those that want to cash in but, I see it as either a pay me now or pay everyone later sort of thing. I think most people don't believe it will ever be worth anything. All I can do right now is hope.......

[RET]

Why give a crap about what these people say? The "Missouri" people are outnumbered by regular folks. I wouldn't be afraid to post anything in here. If it is good stuff, you'd have a LOT of allies to have your back. Like we did with Lance
.

Are you singling a few of us out because of the state we live in or are you insinuating people are from the SHO ME state since they ask for proof? I'm not getting this statement. Actually, I think I am getting it loud and clear, but I'd like your verification.

[MunnyBaggs]

John Kerry has written an article in todays NYT about president Bush's speech and has offered some good advice.

I doubt that GWB will propose anything useful, as usual. :(

The "good advice" Mr. Kerry is suggesting is exactly the moves we already have in place. People expect something as complex as we are attempting in Iraq to be processed in an unrealistically short amount of time. If it is not cured within that time frame they declare failure. The ironic thing is there has been great progress in a relatively short amount of time if you look at things in a historical perspective (comparisons to other totalitarian transformations). Patience is still the key word in all of this.

[F355]

The "good advice" Mr. Kerry is suggesting is exactly the moves we already have in place. People expect something as complex as we are attempting in Iraq to be processed in an unrealistically short amount of time. If it is not cured within that time frame they declare failure. The ironic thing is there has been great progress in a relatively short amount of time if you look at things in a historical perspective (comparisons to other totalitarian transformations). Patience is still the key word in all of this.
Unfortunately, patience isn't sexy and doesn't sell newspapers or reel in a sizeable viewing audience! :no:

[BigE]

Remmie,

When we were attacked on 9/11 a war was declared on us.
Iraq is very much a part of that war. It really IS that simple.


The picture found below found by our army is enough for me to tie him to 9/11, at least enough to get a A_ _ whipp'in.

[Jgraj]

I think someone mentioned something like 7 Trillion. I'm not sure if it's 7 trillion in dinars or dollars. I don't think they are printing them anymore or at least for the time being. I may be wrong. I can't remember where I heard that figure.

[lance]

I too don't believe the insurgency will have as large of an effect on the valuation of the dinar as many have led on in the past. In fact, I tend to think a strong dinar is a weapon against the insurgency. People fight when they have nothing to lose. If Iraq does well by Iraqi's, then Iraqi's will protect what they're proud of (sorry for the oversimplification). The dinar would only make since to open up on the world market before the ISX. It seems a little out of sorts to be trading on a stock exchange with currency not recognized by the rest of the world. But, what do I know?

Your statement: In fact I tend to think a stong dinar is a weapon against the insurgency.

100% right. I believe it is time to unleash our secret weapon. Greed for lack of a better word is a good thing, where did I here that before? Anyway, reduced to its simplest terms when the dinar has value they will turned into a nation of republicans overnight. We all know how republicans protect their money, I should know I am one of them. First two weeks in July emphasis on the first week. Lance

[BRYAN]

Your statement: In fact I tend to think a stong dinar is a weapon against the insurgency.

100% right. I believe it is time to unleash our secret weapon. Greed for lack of a better word is a good thing, where did I here that before? Anyway, reduced to its simplest terms when the dinar has value they will turned into a nation of republicans overnight. We all know how republicans protect their money, I should know I am one of them. First two weeks in July emphasis on the first week. Lance


Lance... :rolleye03

Thanks for the update and I believe if something dosen't happen with some degree of a positive nature ..then this is the correct place for this information to be ..Rumor ... :lmao:

I'm sure there has been an steady increase in Dinar Purchases and deposits since this rumor has been circulating around and because the rumor due date is near ...the later comers are getting on the train ASAP !!

Then if and when it does happen the way you have informed us Lance, as many hope it will be ,then you will be Severly rewarded at the BBQ party by me and by alot of other IIF Members :happy64: ....

[nyinvest]

The more I read, the more I hear and the more I think about it, the Dinar isn't going to happen any time soon.

The constitution has become a complete roadblock. There is no movement on it. Not even a draft of segments of it. It's facing the possibility of not happening on time, and that is just what all these bombings and assassinations are about. Destablilize the country and take things from there. Without the constitution, there can be no legitimate leadership in Iraq, only part time care takers with no teeth. Without a legitimate government, there can be no contracts that don't face a real possibility of being nullified. Without those two things in place, there can be no faith in the country and by extension the Dinar. To peg the Dinar now, under this temporary government devoid of concrete laws would be seen as something more akin to a short term stunt and would undermine the legitimacy of the Dinar as anything other than a provisional placeholder currency.

Iraq needs to put it's house in order before it can open it's doors to the financial world. There isn't a financial institution in the world that wants exposure to a unknown, possibly unstable government.

Prediction: After the new governement is sworn in under a new constitution. Looking at mid to late 2006. A year from now wouldn't surprise me.

If the Dinar moves before this, I'm cashing out as fast as possible as I would have serious reservations about the exchange rate holding at a higher level in an interim governmental environment.

[icarusII]

I posted this transcript a few days ago.........very good read. I bit long but very informative.

Jaafari addresses some of your concerns.

GLTA.......

Here is the link:
http://www.cfr.org/pub8203/ibrahim_aljaafari/a_conversation_with_ibrahim_aljaafari.php

[mudbug]

During the detail, there was a little down time and my partner gathered himself to ask about the Dinar. According to Bremer who turned out to be a pleasant guy considering the bounty on his head, said that the Dinar would be prevailing on the market soon and that is the primary focus of our government. The economic conditions in Iraq needed to be addressed before we could hope to defeat the insurgency

Right on Lance and airforce. Remember this little quote from Bremer that was posted by agent455.

Seems like the U.S. Gov thinks a strong dinar is a weapon too.

It's all lining up. MB

[Basenji]

Does anyone known Warka's website? I was told the site has a few good item on banking in Iarq. Thanks

BJ

[dougmyers]

Does anyone known Warka's website? I was told the site has a few good item on banking in Iarq. Thanks

BJ

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http://www.warkainvestmentbank.com/index.htm

[MWM]

Does anyone known Warka's website? I was told the site has a few good item on banking in Iarq. Thanks

BJ


Dont you already have an account?

[Basenji]

Dont you already have an account?

Yes I do. I just wanted to know what the website name. Thanks.

BJ