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INRI
02-08-2008, 10:45 PM
http://biz.yahoo.com/bizwk/080207/feb2008db2008026105146.html?.v=1&.pf=banking-budgeting

This is an awesome read for everyone who currently is a B of A account holder as well as a future possibility for other banks to follow. If you have the time, READ ALL of this.

B of A's deal for CFC is probably choking them right now, and their going to make card holders pay for it.


BusinessWeek
A Credit Card You Want to Toss
Thursday February 7, 8:08 am ET

By Robert Berner



Credit-card issuers have drawn fire for jacking up interest rates on cardholders who aren't behind on payments, but whose credit score has fallen for another reason. Now, some consumers complain, Bank of America (NYSE:BAC - News) is hiking rates based on no apparent deterioration in their credit scores at all.

The major credit-card lender in mid-January sent letters notifying some responsible cardholders that it would more than double their rates to as high as 28%, without giving an explanation for the increase, according to copies of five letters obtained by BusinessWeek. Fine print at the end of the letter -- headed "Important Amendment to Your Credit Card Agreement" -- advised calling an 800-number for the reason, but consumers who called say they were unable to get a clear answer. "No one could give me an explanation," says Eric Fresch, a Huron (Ohio) engineer who is on time with his Bank of America card payments and knows of no decline in the status of his overall credit.

Bank of America spokeswoman Betty Riess confirms some bank cardholders could be receiving rate increases for reasons other than declines in credit scores, such as running higher balances with their Bank of America cards or with other creditors. She says the increases are part of a "periodic review" that assesses customers' credit risk. She declined to say if the Charlotte (N.C.) bank had changed its credit standards thereby bumping some consumers' rates or how many cardholders were being affected by the review. Bank of America has 40 million U.S. credit-card accounts.

Buzz about the letters is building on the Internet. Since mid-January Credit.com, a credit-card information site, has received 40 complaints from consumers Bank of America had notified of sharp rate increases, even though they were current on their bills, says Emily Davidson, a Credit.com researcher. Complaint sites My3cents.com and BankofAmericaBadforAmerica.org say they have also received similar complaints.

The so-called "opt-out" letters give borrowers the option of no longer using their card and paying off the balance at the old rate. But they must write Bank of America by later this month if they plan to do so -- otherwise their rates on existing and new balances automatically rise.

Arbitrary Criteria

What's striking is how arbitrary the Bank of America rate increases appear, credit industry experts say. In recent years, many card companies have turned to a practice called "risk-based pricing," This sounds like something Jeff Skilling would do!! where they will raise a regular paying consumer's rate because of a decline in the person's FICO score. FICO is a credit-risk score developed by Fair Isaac (NYSE:FIC - News) that includes a number of risk metrics the Minneapolis company doesn't disclose. Credit reporting bureaus supply creditors with FICO scores along with other data, such as late payments and debts owed.

In a December congressional hearing spearheaded by Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), lawmakers slammed big card companies for using such pricing with customers who pay on time. By law, credit-card lenders can change terms as long as they notify borrowers. Even so, JPMorgan Chase (NYSE:JPM - News) and Citigroup (NYSE:C - News) announced ahead of Levin's hearing that they would stop the practice of raising card rates based solely on FICO scores.

But Bank of America appears to be taking an even more aggressive stance because, beyond credit scores, it is using internal criteria that aren't available to consumers. That makes the reason for the rate increase even more opaque. "Congress has faulted credit-card companies for lack of transparency in raising rates," says William Ryan, a financial industry analyst at Portales Partners, a New York-based research firm. "Bank of America is bringing it to a new level."

An Unjustified, For-Profit Move

Analysts also say they are surprised by the magnitude of the rate raises Bank of America is imposing on affected cardholders. Michael Jordan, 25, a software developer who lives in Higganum, Conn., says he received a letter from Bank of America in late January advising him that his card rate would rise from 9.99% to 24.99%. The software developer, who earns $80,000 per year, says he was "shocked" because his payments had been on time and his credit score hadn't changed in the last year. In fact, Jordan says, he has only $4,500 in overall outstanding credit-card debt on two cards and that, on the Bank of America card in question, he had paid down his balance to $3,000 from $3,700 last August. "His rate increase seems unjustified based on his credit profile," says David Robertson, publisher of The Nilson Report, a credit-card industry trade publication.
***Even Michael Jordan is getting jacked***:giggle:
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B]When Jordan called Bank of America about the higher rate, he says, the bank representative couldn't explain why his rate was going up. On a second call, he adds, the individual told him the reason for the increase was that he hadn't been paying down his balance fast enough, though he had lowered it by 19% in the last six months and was only now utilizing 54% of his $5,500 credit limit. Riess, the Bank of America spokeswoman, declined to discuss individual rate increases or to list all the criteria the bank was using as reasons to raise rates on existing cardholders.[/B]

Analysts say the bank's move is obviously aimed at shoring up profits. On Jan. 22 Bank of America reported a 95% decrease in fourth-quarter earnings due mostly to increases in loan-loss reserves for consumer credit, including rising card charge-offs and write-downs in mortgage-related securities. Bank of America faces another profit sinkhole with its pending acquisition of troubled Countrywide Financial (CFC). Portales' Ryan notes that boosting rates on existing credit-card holders is one of the quickest levers a bank can pull to try to boost earnings.

Anticipating Charge-Offs

Bank of America hasn't made it easy for consumers to reject the new rates. The letters require that consumers write Bank of America to agree to no longer use the card and pay off the existing balance at the old rate -- they can't telephone to do so, nor does Bank of America provide a form or a return envelope. Moreover, consumers don't have much time to respond. Cardholders say they got the letters in the latter half of January: four of the letters obtained by BusinessWeek require a written response by Feb. 19, while the fifth requires a response by Feb. 29. If the company doesn't get a response by those dates, rates automatically rise. A response, of course, assumes consumers read the letter from Bank of America as they sort junk mail. "It's a reasonable assumption that most don't," says Karen Gross, a legal scholar on consumer credit and president of Southern Vermont College.

Bank of America also benefits from consumers who do write in an agreement to pay off balances at the old rate and not use the card again, says Nathan Powell, a credit analyst at New York-based research firm RiskMetrics Group. The bank, he says, is clearly trying to protect itself from worsening credit-card charge-offs ahead, something analysts widely expect in the card industry as the economy deteriorates. Powell says the bank must have identified a list of other credit criteria besides FICO that it is using to screen cardholders and determine it's no longer worth new business if they don't accept the higher rate. So far, Bank of America's charge-off rates have risen in line with the credit-card industry, up to 5.08% of receivables at the end of the fourth quarter from 4.57% a year ago. "The bank doesn't want to get behind the curve," Powell says.

"Unacceptable" Hikes

Bank of America is trying to get ahead of Amanda Pennington, 29, of Euless, Texas. She says the bank raised her credit limit three months ago from $5,000 to $8,000 because of her strong payment history. Then she got the letter from the bank in mid-January notifying that her rate would rise from 15.74% to 25.99%. When she called, she says, the bank told her it was raising her rate because her balance was now too high, though it was still under the higher new limit the bank had previously granted. After paying tuition for a community college course, transferring another balance, and paying for daily expenses, Pennington's Bank of America debt now stands at $7,500. Bank of America declined to comment on individual customers.

Adam Levin, CEO of Credit.com and former head of New Jersey's Division of Consumer Affairs, says he is surprised Bank of America would risk bad public relations with its rate increases, given the congressional hearings in December. The bank risks alienating new customers and existing ones by being so brazen, he says, adding, "Either Bank of America has more financial troubles than it is willing to admit or it has a level of institutional arrogance that is unacceptable."

RotaryRevn
02-10-2008, 06:55 PM
I read about that on Yahoo news the other day. It's unbelievable! I would never bank with B of A. First they want to give loans and credit cards to illegals, now this :punch:

INRI
02-10-2008, 08:32 PM
I read about that on Yahoo news the other day. It's unbelievable! I would never bank with B of A. First they want to give loans and credit cards to illegals, now this :punch:

Ya it's a shame what's happening to some people. Regular Joe's with good jobs good credit are getting the shaft now. It used to be only the Joe's with sketchy jobs and bad credit getting the shaft, but not anymore.

Stinks to have the banks pull crap like this. But, these people can always go to Wells Fargo or Providian...err I mean Washington Mutual and bank there and hope they too don't do this as well. Time will tell.

Banks are getting slammed, hammered, and crapped on by everyone including people with bad credit.

removed account per user
02-11-2008, 03:21 PM
Yawn... no big deal, just change credit cards... There's nothing wrong with raising prices.

If suddenly Safeway decided to double to price of apples, people would just go to Albertsons. Etc.

williambedloe
02-11-2008, 03:48 PM
Might be time for a Warka Credit Card...

INRI
02-11-2008, 05:06 PM
Yawn... no big deal, just change credit cards... There's nothing wrong with raising prices. [COLOR="Red"]If suddenly Safeway decided to double to price of apples, people would just go to Albertsons. Etc.


Example:
You owe your Safeway card $4000 for the past several months grocery list. Bear with me here. You have great credit and Safeway has always given you a premium interest rate because of your great credit at 9%. You know your rate is better than others because of your credit score, payment history etc. Safeway informs you that your rate is going from 9% to 29% for no reason, and that in order to "escape" the rate hike you need to pay off your balance in full. Meanwhile, as the months go by you can't pay off your card balance in full, and you can only pay $500 month (for whatever reason). You are now inheriting an additional 20% on your card balance. While it seems easy to brush this off, and say "pay it off" and move on, your forgetting that the average American or even the average credit card holder CAN NOT pay off their credit cards in full on a whim's notice let alone within a year. The banks realize this.



You would be right if we bought apples on credit and recieved lower rates for the purchase of the apples for having better credit than others. Isn't that how credit works?

And, 9% to 25% is more than doubling. That is close to 3x. Switching banks is much more of a hassle and time consuming than throwing out your Safeway club card and switching to Albertson's.

Also, going from B of A to Wells Fargo or Washington Mutual is like going from burgers and instant potatoes on friday nights to mac 'n cheese Kraft style. It's a best a horizontal movement. JMO