Is your source a dealer?

[regenpower]

I posted this in another thread by accident, sorry. I wanted it to be an individual topic.


Here's some food for thought.

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

It's just so obvious that every time these posters are making these new exciting announcements that they are also announcing how they are buying more and more dinar. You must understand that some people are very gullible and even if they may sound intelligent that doesn't really mean they are. Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?

[BrerRabbit]

I posted this in another thread by accident, sorry. I wanted it to be an individual topic.


Here's some food for thought.

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

It's just so obvious that every time these posters are making these new exciting announcements that they are also announcing how they are buying more and more dinar. You must understand that some people are very gullible and even if they may sound intelligent that doesn't really mean they are. Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?

Caveat Emptor

Its up to you to do your due diligence.

[Tinydancer]

.....sure that could be true...


...but also remember....loose lips sink ships..but they flap anyway..

there is always 'someone', that serves the coffee in a meeting...and waiting in line at the donut stand...there is always 'someone', that overhears a conversation, unless you are in a sound proof box...

[Dinar Happens]

Just like Nostradamus, you make enough predictions and odds are some might come true.

Not to mention...Obviously these werent overheard conversations, supposedly it is a constant stream of info...what are the chances of that.

[thmgroup]

....Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?


Haven't we put this issue to rest yet? Dumb as a bag of hammers? I mean really. :no: You think YOU'RE an independent thinker when you simply regurgitate the blather put out by the mainstream media re: his intelligence? If Bush is simply a stupid fool who is fed only what his advisors want him to say, then what are YOU. Sounds to me like you haven't done you're due dilligence re: his intelligence!

Give me a break!! :mad:

[Empire]

Asked and answered...counselor please move on.... :shhh:

[AirForceCop]

I posted this in another thread by accident, sorry. I wanted it to be an individual topic.


Here's some food for thought.

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

It's just so obvious that every time these posters are making these new exciting announcements that they are also announcing how they are buying more and more dinar. You must understand that some people are very gullible and even if they may sound intelligent that doesn't really mean they are. Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?


Why is someone always trying to make it rain on the parade?

[dinarready]

Quote:
Originally Posted by regenpower
I posted this in another thread by accident, sorry. I wanted it to be an individual topic.


Here's some food for thought.

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

It's just so obvious that every time these posters are making these new exciting announcements that they are also announcing how they are buying more and more dinar. You must understand that some people are very gullible and even if they may sound intelligent that doesn't really mean they are. Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?


Ya know, it must really be sad to go through life with such a suspicious and negative outlook on life. Like it has been said before, you should not make financial decisions based on what you read on this forum, especially from the "Rumors" section. Some people just aren't cut out for an adventure like this because they always have to find something negative in every situation and try to "bring everyone else down" to their level. Just read the rumors for what they are and enjoy the ride! Life it too short to always try to find the "what's wrong with this picture" scenario. ;)

[thmgroup]

Why is someone always trying to make it rain on the parade?

It's simply impossible for some people to "think outside the box." Typical liberal drivel. Somebody's always out to put the screws to someone else. I am so sick and tired of this "oh, I'm a victim" :crying: mentality...Really gets my ire up (can you tell?). Offer nothing productive - simply take pot shots at any opportunity or good will.

(Breathing slowing...breathing, breathing) Think I'm better now. Moving on.

[regenpower]

Rain on the parade? :lmao:

All I can say is I feel for you sheeple.

Denial is a powerful force.

I have over $75,000 USD personally invested in dinar. Not alot compared to others but enough for a middle class guy. My investment was formed on rumor so I have no problem with rumors but even if today I was told by Ibrahim al-Jaafari that the dinar would open tomorrow I would not buy more.

[OutToDinar]

There once was a guy from Nantucket, whose....

[big time]

I posted this in another thread by accident, sorry. I wanted it to be an individual topic.


Here's some food for thought.

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

It's just so obvious that every time these posters are making these new exciting announcements that they are also announcing how they are buying more and more dinar. You must understand that some people are very gullible and even if they may sound intelligent that doesn't really mean they are. Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?
Some of us have been saying this all along, you guys seem to totally ignore anything but good news. Seems some of us are blinded ny greed

[jonny]

I posted this in another thread by accident, sorry. I wanted it to be an individual topic.


Here's some food for thought.

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

It's just so obvious that every time these posters are making these new exciting announcements that they are also announcing how they are buying more and more dinar. You must understand that some people are very gullible and even if they may sound intelligent that doesn't really mean they are. Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?

Bush got better grades than Kerry and they went to the same college.
Reagan power why do you act like my two year old? Oops, my two year old acts more mature than you.

[clay75]

I posted this in another thread by accident, sorry. I wanted it to be an individual topic.


Here's some food for thought.

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

It's just so obvious that every time these posters are making these new exciting announcements that they are also announcing how they are buying more and more dinar. You must understand that some people are very gullible and even if they may sound intelligent that doesn't really mean they are. Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?

No rumors here but just the facts. My two best sources are business associates and are NOT dealers. The others I cannot say definitively because I don't know them. And you are going to find out very soon (on or before the 16th of this month) just how misguided your theories are.

[PennStateMtnMan]

Regen might not have had the most eloquent presentation with his post, but he does have somewhat of a point. We can all tell people not to buy based on Clay's and Lance's rumors, but the fact is, people are buying on his rumors. Take out Regen's political slams and he has a valid question. I have wondered the same Regen and Clay had explained to me in PM's it was not dealers. On a side note, Bush had a better GPA then Kerry. Gore bombed out becuase he was into drugs and Clinton is just a "Used Carpet Salesman" and Carter, well, he can build a house and farm peanuts.

[bottlebush]

No rumors here but just the facts. My two best sources are business associates and are NOT dealers. The others I cannot say definitively because I don't know them. And you are going to find out very soon (on or before the 16th of this month) just how misguided your theories are.
"Tickle" Tickle"

14th.

[AirForceCop]

It's simply impossible for some people to "think outside the box." Typical liberal drivel. Somebody's always out to put the screws to someone else. I am so sick and tired of this "oh, I'm a victim" :crying: mentality...Really gets my ire up (can you tell?). Offer nothing productive - simply take pot shots at any opportunity or good will.

(Breathing slowing...breathing, breathing) Think I'm better now. Moving on.

Ditto...I'll take "positive" people any day...Let's all just hang in there and good things will happen.....

[chica]

my best source of information is in fact a dealer, who has earned my trust by providing an amazing service IMO...

by the way, she indicated on 8/3/05 that she had noticed a surge in orders from military personell including one air force commander who said all of his friends were buying and another individual with a shipping address at the pentagon.

oh yeah, salud to clay and all the other "big guy" rumor posting members!

[Naddad Odadda]

I posted this in another thread by accident, sorry. I wanted it to be an individual topic.


Here's some food for thought.

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

It's just so obvious that every time these posters are making these new exciting announcements that they are also announcing how they are buying more and more dinar. You must understand that some people are very gullible and even if they may sound intelligent that doesn't really mean they are. Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president.

My point here is that the rumor posters may very well be manipulated by shrewd dealers to buy dinar with rumors of I have great sources. Get it?


You couldn't be more correct. I've been watching this site for over a year and have seen more rumors come and go claiming that the peg is near. The interesting thing is that I bought about ten million Dinar in the beginning and eventually sold off all but about three only keeping various denominations. I am looking to buy some 50 and 250 denoms just because I don't have any. As far as this being an investment??? Well, alot of people compare the IQD to the Kuwiati Dinar of the early 90's, but what no one seems to mention is the fact that Kuwait's currency already had a world trade market prior to it's reformation. The IQD did not and may not ever. The IQD dealers on here are praying on those that hate their jobs, are in debt, have (more than likely) bi-polar dissorder, or some other fantastic idealology that if you spend a few grand you will some day become richer than your wildest dreams. I personally like how the paper looks. I don't know much about the peg or the float as to when or if it may happpen. I just think it's fun to collect currency from around the world. My plan is to wallpaper my office some day with an assortment of world currency. Some is more expensive than others and I have found that if you can buy currency that is worthless to most, it makes for pretty cheap wallpaper.

Maybe someday I will have to start cashing in my wallpaper, but in the mean time, it looks pretty cool.

By the way, all you bi-polar/alcoholic/uneducated idiots on here need not reply or PM me with your fodder, I have no interest in your thoughts or making conversation.

[mudbug]

BUT....this dinar dealer stuff is getting old.

I can tell you for certain that there are several members that have very legitimate, credible sources that corroborate what has been posted with regards to the recent events.

I think that Dawson guy is a Dinar Dealer.

Gotta love that line, thanks jonny! MB

[clay75]

"I've been watching this site for over a year and have seen more rumors come and go claiming that the peg is near."

Let me ask you this please:

1) How could the Dinar possibly open before the debt situation was resolved? The UNCC claim submission deadline was June 30th of this year. All rumors of an opening can be discarded. The debt is used as an input for the IMF valuation models.

These rumors have validity and soon you will find that out.

Regards,

Clay

[big time]

Maybe if we don't let this thread get over 20 posts, it would be a good thing? I'd like to hear more explanation on WHY the dinar is bound to open when the DRAFT Constitution is agreed on.
OMG, Yeah shut it down before the other people have their say . c'mon this is a forum. tyical americans, to blinded by greed to listen to people and to ignorant to see the whole picture. your people have always been this way and always will. you guys are always trying to find a hero and follow. that is why you are the cult capital of the world. I for one see the whole picture. I still respect peoples veiws, and I never attack a individuals character, and I beleive these "big guys"(which I will take credit for naming a few individuals a few days ago) have a lot to offer us but don't believe everything you hear. Take it all in. then make your decisions ;)

[dejavu]

There once was a guy from Nantucket, whose....

haha......here we go again, LOL

[swartzfeger]

Did anyone here ever wonder if these supposed big guy (no name needed) rumor posters are just posting what a dealer may be feeding them?

Even if they are, so what?

As brer mentioned, due diligence.

Also, you have never ONCE seen Lance, Clay or any other 'inside' person say "looks like an X peg by Y date... maybe you should consider that last minute dinar purchase from Dealer Z."

These guys are clearly not pushing a particular dealer, product, or website, so I don't see how your theory holds any water.

As many have stated in the past, it doesn't matter one bit if the rumor guys are spouting BS because you should only purchase what you can afford to lose.

[clay75]

Too late to keep this below 20, how about below 30?

The thing is, we are grownups...I personally don't buy just on the excitement. How about this...look at the rumors, then see if you can find any hard news to back it up. If so, great...if not, great. But educate yourself. Now let's get back to some good rumors aight?

WHY are we saying Sunday now...and the delayed meeting, I think Clay said that the one being moved to Sunday is no big deal right? The Constitution is a done deal?

More lobbying is necessary for parliamentary approval. Therefore, a 2 day delay while Talabani and Jaafari lobby. They don't want to risk a rejection if a few days will yield an approval.

[Dinar*Curious]

Well I can say that my information does come from someone in the financial industry but not a dinar dealer.. and he has made a major purchase of dinar in last weeek.. also currently took leave and is expecting to send his resignation paper by end of month.. So sounds good to me. :happy64:

[big time]

Too late to keep this below 20, how about below 30?

The thing is, we are grownups...I personally don't buy just on the excitement. How about this...look at the rumors, then see if you can find any hard news to back it up. If so, great...if not, great. But educate yourself. Now let's get back to some good rumors aight?

WHY are we saying Sunday now...and the delayed meeting, I think Clay said that the one being moved to Sunday is no big deal right? The Constitution is a done deal?
Why would you believe only 1 individual out of 2000. Not trying to start a war, just trying to figure out your reasoning.

[lordrazor1]

BUT....this dinar dealer stuff is getting old.

I can tell you for certain that there are several members that have very legitimate, credible sources that corroborate what has been posted with regards to the recent events.

I think that Dawson guy is a Dinar Dealer.

Gotta love that line, thanks jonny! MB


First of all who gives a rats if they are dealers passing the rumors.....If you buy on rumors shame on you.....and as far as everyone posting that it is dealers posting the rumors I have a question. Are you everyones mom and dad? All these people are adults well I hope, and can make up their own minds to buy or not. Now if you want to use that dealers are posting rumors to pass your political views then just be a man and post your damn political views. Are if you want to just cry about something go look in the mirror and cry to yourself because everyone has enough problems without listening to you cry. I just thought this was what MB was trying to say.....if not this is what I'm saying.......

[SaraDinar]

A Cynic: A man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin.

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The real art of conversation is not only to say the right thing in the right place, but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.

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Noah's Law of Business:

You get remembered for building the Ark - not for predicting the rain!

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[swartzfeger]

By the way, all you bi-polar/alcoholic/uneducated idiots on here need not reply or PM me with your fodder, I have no interest in your thoughts or making conversation.

Interesting... you post in a public forum, make ad hominem attacks and then take your ball and run home with your tail betwixt your legs because you can't hand the logic of us so-called 'idiots.'

[chica]

i personally believe that our best source is the IMF...

wouldn't the IMF/World Bank be considered the largest global dinar broker by a long shot?

[MunnyBaggs]

Regen might not have had the most eloquent presentation with his post, but he does have somewhat of a point. We can all tell people not to buy based on Clay's and Lance's rumors, but the fact is, people are buying on his rumors. Take out Regen's political slams and he has a valid question. I have wondered the same Regen and Clay had explained to me in PM's it was not dealers. On a side note, Bush had a better GPA then Kerry. Gore bombed out becuase he was into drugs and Clinton is just a "Used Carpet Salesman" and Carter, well, he can build a house and farm peanuts.

I agree it's a valid question. Just because this is a rumour Forum does not mean we shouldn't have the "10 questions" asked. The problem is when the guy starts name calling and adding political spin. That is uncalled for. As far as questioning the rumours, sure, they may not be able to devulge some info, but there is nothing wrong with honest and civil debate. The good news is these rumours are very specific and there is a set time frame. Basically there is no "escape route" for this specific info. So ask questions, be civil, and let the month play out. At that point we'll all either be wealthy or we'll simply reshuffle the deck.

[Teslyn]

No rumors here but just the facts. My two best sources are business associates and are NOT dealers. The others I cannot say definitively because I don't know them. And you are going to find out very soon (on or before the 16th of this month) just how misguided your theories are.

I hope you are right, Clay, I honestly 100% swear to God hope you are right.






But that still does not settle all of these guys with their super duper "secret agent man" 'sources' who are "in-the-know". :drunk:

Some people like myself smell scandal when something like this "leaked" to "credible sources" who then have another "leak" to some guy who posts on a forum. I mean really Clay, behind these screen names, we could all be 500lb Santa Claus looking dudes, wearing ripped and stained sweats, sipping a Jolt Cola and wondering whose string we can pull next to get a rise out of them for our own personal jollies. Unlikely that we ALL could look like Santa, but then again, there are a lot of malls out there and we're really only in demand during one season of the year. ;)

Peace. Joy. Have fun. Let's get rich. And I won't apologise if my skepticism put your panties in a bind.

[Goalie Interference]

By the way, all you bi-polar/alcoholic/uneducated idiots on here need not reply or PM me with your fodder, I have no interest in your thoughts or making conversation.

And most of us feel identical about your thoughts. Keep them to yourself......

[jonny]

OMG, Yeah shut it down before the other people have their say . c'mon this is a forum. tyical americans, to blinded by greed to listen to people and to ignorant to see the whole picture. your people have always been this way and always will. you guys are always trying to find a hero and follow. that is why you are the cult capital of the world. I for one see the whole picture. I still respect peoples veiws, and I never attack a individuals character, and I beleive these "big guys"(which I will take credit for naming a few individuals a few days ago) have a lot to offer us but don't believe everything you hear. Take it all in. then make your decisions ;)

You sound so smart and educated. I want to be just like you. Do you run a cult I could join? I hope everyone joins me in worshiping the almighty Big Time.
"and I never attack a individuals character" I believe you called me a bipolar/alcoholic/idiot.........how did you know??

[swartzfeger]

OMG, Yeah shut it down before the other people have their say . c'mon this is a forum. tyical americans, to blinded by greed to listen to people and to ignorant to see the whole picture. your people have always been this way and always will. you guys are always trying to find a hero and follow. that is why you are the cult capital of the world. I for one see the whole picture. I still respect peoples veiws, and I never attack a individuals character, and I beleive these "big guys"(which I will take credit for naming a few individuals a few days ago) have a lot to offer us but don't believe everything you hear. Take it all in. then make your decisions ;)

I love you Big Time... you smear tyical (sic) Americans for being to (sic) blinded by greed and then follow up with the classic "I never attack a (sic) individuals character." The knee jerk anti-Americanism is getting really, really old.

As far as your view on the "big guys", even the most optimistic members would agree that the rumor posters have something to offer but should be taken with a grain of salt.

Just .02 from a tyical (sic) greedy American.

[lordrazor1]

It usally the liberals crying about the rumors and people buying more on rumors. You know why I think this is, it's because jelousy is an evil emotion and they don't want anyone having more than them.......look at their post, "I only have such amout"......It's usally a cry because someone has more candy than them.....that's why most liberals are for big government, and sharing the wealth, as long as it's someone elses wealth........

[PghRiverRat]

I mean really Clay, behind these screen names, we could all be 500lb Santa Claus looking dudes, wearing ripped and stained sweats, sipping a Jolt Cola and wondering whose string we can pull next to get a rise out of them for our own personal jollies. Unlikely that we ALL could look like Santa, but then again, there are a lot of malls out there and we're really only in demand during one season of the year.
Hmmm, I think I'll start a new rumor...

[jonny]

Yes, I am a Dinar Dealer. These guys are sooo dumb. Im a little low on cash, so watch this..............shhhhh,

My source says you have 24 hours to get all your dinar orders in, if you must sell your house and/or daughters to buy, buy, buy. Hurry, this rumor ends in 24 hours, dont miss out.

Now watch me get rich....hee, hee, hee

These American's are soooo dumb. Hail....Ceasar (Big Time)

[Goalie Interference]

Just a couple more people to add to the ignore list

[Teslyn]

It usally the liberals crying about the rumors and people buying more on rumors. You know why I think this is, it's because jelousy is an evil emotion and they don't want anyone having more than them.......look at their post, "I only have such amout"......It's usally a cry because someone has more candy than them.....that's why most liberals are for big government, and sharing the wealth, as long as it's someone elses wealth........


Yeouch. Glad I'm not a liberal. :drunk:

The following is unrelated to the quoted post:


Seriously. Everyone takes this all tooooooooo seriously. This is a forum and if the mods want to dictate policy they can, but why can't some people naturally disagree with your "popular" opinion?

Some people really do believe that if something is too good to be true it probably is. I am one of them. Some people are overly positive about things. Some aren't. Just because some of us aren't we're flamed and called the bad guys and put on ignore?

We're not villians here. I would say 99.9999999% of all posters here have their money vested into this venture. The other 0.0000001% are coming here to find info and they will more than likey buy in too. We all have something to gain or lose, it's just that some of us don't get swept into the madness and hysteria.

But regardless, either way. There is absolutely ZERO reason why anyone should get flamed for having this "negative" opinion.

[Teslyn]

Hmmm, I think I'll start a new rumor...

:lmao: :lmao:

[mudbug]

There is absolutely ZERO reason why anyone should get flamed for having this "negative" opinion.

It's not that presenting an opposing opinion is bad. It's the personal attacks that keep people away that I know would add credible information to the forum. Some of this gets hostile.......personally attacking members or even the country they represent. It's not as harmless as you may think.

MB

[regenpower]

I'm sorry if my political views offended anyone. I did not intend for this thread to become a blood-fest, it was solely a what if and my opinion.

If I offended anyone I am sorry.

I will wait for the 16th and then I will post again either a thank you or an I told you so.
I believe the I told you so will be the order so I will spend the next 11 days picking out a shiny new font.

My source said no rain here. :shhh: All sunshine. :huge:

[swartzfeger]

Some people really do believe that if something is too good to be true it probably is. I am one of them. Some people are overly positive about things. Some aren't. Just because some of us aren't we're flamed and called the bad guys and put on ignore?

We're not villians here. I would say 99.9999999% of all posters here have their money vested into this venture. The other 0.0000001% are coming here to find info and they will more than likey buy in too. We all have something to gain or lose, it's just that some of us don't get swept into the madness and hysteria.

But regardless, either way. There is absolutely ZERO reason why anyone should get flamed for having this "negative" opinion.

teslyn, there are negative opinions, and there are tinfoil histrionics.

I completely respect your skepticism. I think even the most optimistic, diehard dinar fans would, too. I have been skeptical of rumors in the past; this new round of rumors seem much, much more plausible because of the 'confluence of events.'

Negativity doesn't bother me -- the goofy, cloak-n-dagger conspiracy theory 'Lance and Clay are Dinar Dealer Operatives' *does* bother me.

We're not children here. We've made an adult decision to throw good money at a highly speculative gamble. We don't need Canadian goofballs that can barely spell come in here and broadbrush Americans or other members come in here and insinuate this is some grand conspiracy being foisted upon the 'tyical (sic) greedy Americans' by Lance and Clay.

For @$%!@$!% sake, this is a **RUMORS** forum. If you don't like what you read here, then let us greedy American idiots get snookered in peace, ok?

I don't think anyone is disparaging healthy skepticism.

[Teslyn]

It's not that presenting an opposing opinion is bad. It's the personal attacks that keep people away that I know would add credible information to the forum. Some of this gets hostile.......personally attacking members or even the country they represent. It's not as harmless as you may think.

MB

I agree. Personal attacks are lame. No question.

But stop for a moment. read through some threads lately. Even people who make the attempt to state a "negative" opinion or idea are instantly put on the defense by a good majority on these forums who instantly go on the attack thinking that someone else's differing view is a personal attack and an aimed shot of urine at their corn flakes. :drunk:

I never claimed it was harmless either. ;)

I claimed that many people take it all way toooooo seriously. I mean how do people who gets soooo wound up about things live life? This is the internet it the ultimate vision of moderating and cyphoning the information you get. Heh, even my old Minister used to say in the middle of a sermon, "but this is all just grass, and you're all just cows, and you can choose to swallow it down and stare back at me with those big dumb eyes, or you can briong the cud back up give it another taste and if you don't like it, you should just spit it out."

That man got more respect out of me for that because he catered to the skeptics, but at any rate, his lesson should always be applied to the internet. I hope in my lifetime someone can reproduce Orsen Wells and cause mass hysteria using the internet and all the people who just instantly believe - because I read it online. :shhh:

Have fun guys.

[lordrazor1]

It's about hearing the same opinon over and over........Then it starts to be not an opinon, but how you should do things, and how it should be done, and how you should feel and telling people how to think.....the best bet in life is to worry about your business and not everyone elses...and life would be good....Nothing worse in the world is people telling people how they need to live their life......

[Big Daddy Dinar]

I hope you are right, Clay, I honestly 100% swear to God hope you are right.

But that still does not settle all of these guys with their super duper "secret agent man" 'sources' who are "in-the-know". :drunk:

Some people like myself smell scandal when something like this "leaked" to "credible sources" who then have another "leak" to some guy who posts on a forum. I mean really Clay, behind these screen names, we could all be 500lb Santa Claus looking dudes, wearing ripped and stained sweats, sipping a Jolt Cola and wondering whose string we can pull next to get a rise out of them for our own personal jollies. Unlikely that we ALL could look like Santa, but then again, there are a lot of malls out there and we're really only in demand during one season of the year. ;)

Peace. Joy. Have fun. Let's get rich. And I won't apologise if my skepticism put your panties in a bind.

I have a question for you: why even post here? Why discuss the dinar on the forum if you have such skepticism? Why not just turn off the computer and assess the dinar's prospects dispassionately by yourself?

Truth be told, it's almost as though you WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT THIS IS A GUARANTEED WINNER of an investment. You want people to reassure you, because you're not sure of yourself.

I'm sorry, but that's not going to happen here. Even those of us who post research or "tips" that we receive know this basic fact: THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. Things could go horribly wrong, or they could turn out as we anticipated. DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK, NO ONE HERE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FINANCIAL DECISIONS BUT YOU.

Assess whatever credibility you wish to the people who post here, but please don't disparage all of the well-intentioned people who are here to assess the dinar's prospects. That's a disservice to them. You are free to review or ignore their posts, and I ask that you not create an environment where people no longer want to post their research and/or "tips" here.

[swartzfeger]

I'm sorry if my political views offended anyone. I did not intend for this thread to become a blood-fest, it was solely a what if and my opinion.

It's a valid question -- what if the 'inside guys' are dealers?

It takes about 30 seconds to completely dismantle that what if. No rumor guys have **EVER** tried to make anyone buy dinar. None of them have website URLs in their sigs. None of them have pitched or recommended a particular dealer. They've all said to do your own research and that this is high risk gamble.

I challenge **all** naysayers to find **one** post where the rumor guys have said something untoward that could be construed as trying to make forum members buy dinar so the rumor poster could benefit.

It's time for all the naysayers to either put up or shut up.

If someone is **stupid** enough to go out and blow money on NID because of a rumor and then lose their , they deserve it.

We don't need nannys coming in here (liberal, Canadian or otherwise) trying to protect us from Lance or Clay.

[Teslyn]

Negativity doesn't bother me -- the goofy, cloak-n-dagger conspiracy theory 'Lance and Clay are Dinar Dealer Operatives' *does* bother me.



Awww c'mon. You gotta admit. Between Lance and Clay and couple of the others and their posts you have all the makings of a cheesey spy story. :drunk: :lmao:

And the only real difference between us mate is that while you get a bit wrinkled over the idea that people could possibly harbor such thoughts about good guys like them, I take the stance that in the event that they turn out to be con men in the slightest I reserve the right to take them on, on behalf of the people who get a little too hung up on their every word and gesture.

I'm not saying they are. I'm not saying they aren't either.

The fact remains that we're all strangers here, and who in life has not been hoodwinked by a stranger before? ;) Some people really are gullible and really, if I take a different approach to the idea or an opposite approach even its not out of some malice for anyone - its because really, some people don't really stop to think, they get hung up on the potential and don't look at reality for a second. So look at people like me as someone who really does just want to look out for the next guy who may or may not know any better.

Just the other side of the coin is all.

[swartzfeger]

I have a question for you: why even post here? Why discuss the dinar on the forum if you have such skepticism? Why not just turn off the computer and assess the dinar's prospects dispassionately by yourself?

Truth be told, it's almost as though you WANT TO BE CONVINCED THAT THIS IS A GUARANTEED WINNER of an investment. You want people to reassure you, because you're not sure of yourself.

I'm sorry, but that's not going to happen here. Even those of us who post research or "tips" that we receive know this basic fact: THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES. Things could go horribly wrong, or they could turn out as we anticipated. DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK, NO ONE HERE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR FINANCIAL DECISIONS BUT YOU.

Assess whatever credibility you wish to the people who post here, but please don't disparage all of the well-intentioned people who are here to assess the dinar's prospects. That's a disservice to them. You are free to review or ignore their posts, and I ask that you not create an environment where people no longer want to post their research and/or "tips" here.

"I'll take 'Big Daddy Dinar's Common Sense & Logic' for the win, Alex"

[Teslyn]

And now as we look, who are truly the hostile attackers?

Have fun guys. :wave:

[lordrazor1]

Awww c'mon. You gotta admit. Between Lance and Clay and couple of the others and their posts you have all the makings of a cheesey spy story. :drunk: :lmao:

And the only real difference between us mate is that while you get a bit wrinkled over the idea that people could possibly harbor such thoughts about good guys like them, I take the stance that in the event that they turn out to be con men in the slightest I reserve the right to take them on, on behalf of the people who get a little too hung up on their every word and gesture.

I'm not saying they are. I'm not saying they aren't either.

The fact remains that we're all strangers here, and who in life has not been hoodwinked by a stranger before? ;) Some people really are gullible and really, if I take a different approach to the idea or an opposite approach even its not out of some malice for anyone - its because really, some people don't really stop to think, they get hung up on the potential and don't look at reality for a second. So look at people like me as someone who really does just want to look out for the next guy who may or may not know any better.

Just the other side of the coin is all.

Well if they don't stop and think it's their fault,,,,you learn from your mistakes....and since you looking out for the next guy, how about looking out for me and send me a million dinar......

[icarusII]

Awww c'mon. You gotta admit. Between Lance and Clay and couple of the others and their posts you have all the makings of a cheesey spy story. :drunk: :lmao:

And the only real difference between us mate is that while you get a bit wrinkled over the idea that people could possibly harbor such thoughts about good guys like them, I take the stance that in the event that they turn out to be con men in the slightest I reserve the right to TAKE THEM ON, on behalf of the people who get a little too hung up on their every word and gesture.

I'm not saying they are. I'm not saying they aren't either.

The fact remains that we're all strangers here, and who in life has not been hoodwinked by a stranger before? ;) Some people really are gullible and really, if I take a different approach to the idea or an opposite approach even its not out of some malice for anyone - its because really, some people don't really stop to think, they get hung up on the potential and don't look at reality for a second. So look at people like me as someone who really does just want to look out for the next guy who may or may not know any better.

Just the other side of the coin is all.

Very fair assessment....Do you really know the people who post here? No!
That's why it is imperative to "weigh" the rumored information with published facts. But in defense of these rumors......the published facts aren't always what is happening. Lots of deals go on behind the scenes that the "average Joe" will never know or hear about....and for good reason. You see the bickering and arguing over a rumor here. If the average citizen actually knew what goes on behind the scenes.......at time there would be utter chaos.
I would hope no one would be making life changing decisions based on public forum information.......but there is and I guess always will be. We all want to believe in Santa Claus. LOL

All the best to you and yours,
Icarus

[Big Daddy Dinar]

I'm not saying they are. I'm not saying they aren't either.

The fact remains that we're all strangers here, and who in life has not been hoodwinked by a stranger before? ;) Some people really are gullible and really, if I take a different approach to the idea or an opposite approach even its not out of some malice for anyone - its because really, some people don't really stop to think, they get hung up on the potential and don't look at reality for a second. So look at people like me as someone who really does just want to look out for the next guy who may or may not know any better.

Just the other side of the coin is all.

It's one thing to present valid disagreements on why the dinar will or will not succeed. It's quite another to start casting aspersions on people who are contributing information and research in good faith. We are all responsible for assessing the credibility of posters ourselves, and we don't need you to come along and start driving contributors off the board because of your skepticism. We don't need you to "look out for" us when that means that you're going to denigrate and cast aspersions on good faith contributors.

[TimP]

"Take Bush for instance, without someone telling him what to say he is as dumb as a bag of hammers. But put some words in his head and he sounds like a president."

"All I can say is I feel for you sheeple"

"Some of us have been saying this all along, you guys seem to totally ignore anything but good news. Seems some of us are blinded ny greed"

"The IQD dealers on here are praying on those that hate their jobs, are in debt, have (more than likely) bi-polar dissorder, or some other fantastic idealology that if you spend a few grand you will some day become richer than your wildest dreams."

"By the way, all you bi-polar/alcoholic/uneducated idiots on here need not reply or PM me with your fodder, I have no interest in your thoughts or making conversation."

"tyical americans, to blinded by greed to listen to people and to ignorant to see the whole picture. your people have always been this way and always will. you guys are always trying to find a hero and follow. that is why you are the cult capital of the world."

....and you have to ask why would you get flamed or on an ignore list? :no:

bye, bye.... :wave:

[swartzfeger]

Awww c'mon. You gotta admit. Between Lance and Clay and couple of the others and their posts you have all the makings of a cheesey spy story. :drunk: :lmao:

And the only real difference between us mate is that while you get a bit wrinkled over the idea that people could possibly harbor such thoughts about good guys like them, I take the stance that in the event that they turn out to be con men in the slightest I reserve the right to do them bodily harm on behalf of the people who get a little too hung up on their every word and gesture.

I'm not saying they are. I'm not saying they aren't either.

The fact remains that we're all strangers here, and who in life has not been hoodwinked by a stranger before? ;) Some people really are gullible and really, if I take a different approach to the idea or an opposite approach even its not out of some malice for anyone - its because really, some people don't really stop to think, they get hung up on the potential and don't look at reality for a second. So look at people like me as someone who really does just want to look out for the next guy who may or may not know any better.

Just the other side of the coin is all.

And I'm not blind to that other side of the coin, as some skeptics seem to think.

This point has been BEATEN TO DEATH:

SO WHAT IF THEY ARE CON MEN?

You buy the amount of Dinar you can afford to lose. They may be blowing smoke, they may be right. Anyone that buys dinar based on educated descisions should have no concerns about Lance/Clays legitimacy.

[swartzfeger]

And now as we look, who are truly the hostile attackers?

Have fun guys. :wave:

The Canadian guy that can't spell, right? :lmao:

[thmgroup]

It usally the liberals crying about the rumors and people buying more on rumors. You know why I think this is, it's because jelousy is an evil emotion and they don't want anyone having more than them.......look at their post, "I only have such amout"......It's usally a cry because someone has more candy than them.....that's why most liberals are for big government, and sharing the wealth, as long as it's someone elses wealth........

If we conservatives would not be so greedy and simply give every American 25,000 dinar now, we would be able to end poverty in the US when this thing pegs. We should be ashamed of ourselves! (bowing my head in shame now) :lmao:

I guarantee you that liberals will have a field day with any conservative politician who makes a penny on the dinar peg (of course, we'll never hear a peep about the liberal ones). This will become the next attempt at a big scandal (that the Bush Adminstration and conservatives made a profit "on the backs of the poor Iraqis).

[KennyinOC]

Interesting... you post in a public forum, make ad hominem attacks and then take your ball and run home with your tail betwixt your legs because you can't hand the logic of us so-called 'idiots.'


Thats why I like you so much Swartzfeger. Again, you are teaching me new words to learn. :happy64:

[swartzfeger]

Thats why I like you so much Swartzfeger. Again, you are teaching me new words to learn. :happy64:

Yeah, well... someone has to fight the 'stupid ugly American' stereotype here. :)

[lordrazor1]

If we conservatives would not be so greedy and simply give every American 25,000 dinar now, we would be able to end poverty in the US when this thing pegs. We should be ashamed of ourselves! (bowing my head in shame now) :lmao:

I guarantee you that liberals will have a field day with any conservative politician who makes a penny on the dinar peg (of course, we'll never hear a peep about the liberal ones). This will become the next attempt at a big scandal (that the Bush Adminstration and conservatives made a profit "on the backs of the poor Iraqis).


Your right on that one......Look at Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and George Soros......Have all the money, but not one of them give their money to the poor.....If they did, All the inner city poverty would be gone....but I digress it is the conservitives fault....

[Big Daddy Dinar]

Yeah, well... someone has to fight the 'stupid ugly American' stereotype here. :)

If I knew that you guys here were such fans of the English language, I would have peppered my posts with "whereas", "thereto" and "heretofore".

[pvpeacock]

Okay, let's get this baby back on track. I understand from a reliable source that Prime Minister Jaafari is behind all of this. He, as it turns out, is the biggest Dinar dealer in the world. He feeds his rumors to the U.S. government on a daily basis, which, in turn, feeds it down the chain where it ultimately ends up here. He sets meetings and deadlines which he then hints will portend the release and peg of the Dinar and then reschedules them after the initial flood of new orders comes through. Some believe George Bush is really behind the leaks as a way of preparing for the elimination of social security as we know it -- aka "private Dinar accounts." By working with Jaafari, and the IIF, George W. has encouraged many to rely on the Dinar for retirement rather than on the federal goverment. While George W. acts as if he has a head full of hammers, his grades at Yale --which were higher than Kerry's by the way --prove otherwise. In fact, I have heard that the new Iraqi Dinars were actually printed up during George W.'s first year in office which would show his long term plan in this regard and his patience. How Clay, Lance et al. fit in, I am still working on. However, have you ever noticed that "Clay" and "Lance" both have C's and L's in them? :drunk:

[F355]

Geddy Lee called and told me to ask you to please let up on the Canadians...some of us are nice guys. :huge: :lmao: :wave:

[F355]

Okay, let's get this baby back on track. I understand from a reliable source that Prime Minister Jaafari is behind all of this. He, as it turns out, is the biggest Dinar dealer in the world. He feeds his rumors to the U.S. government on a daily basis, which, in turn, feeds it down the chain where it ultimately ends up here. He sets meetings and deadlines which he then hints will portend the release and peg of the Dinar and then reschedules them after the initial flood of new orders comes through. Some believe George Bush is really behind the leaks as a way of preparing for the elimination of social security as we know it -- aka "private Dinar accounts." By working with Jaafari, and the IIF, George W. has encouraged many to rely on the Dinar for retirement rather than on the federal goverment. While George W. acts as if he has a head full of hammers, his grades at Yale --which were higher than Kerry's by the way --prove otherwise. In fact, I have heard that the new Iraqi Dinars were actually printed up during George W.'s first year in office which would show his long term plan in this regard and his patience. How Clay, Lance et al. fit in, I am still working on. However, have you ever noticed that "Clay" and "Lance" both have C's and L's in them? :drunk:
LOL...Too funny :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

[lordrazor1]

Okay, let's get this baby back on track. I understand from a reliable source that Prime Minister Jaafari is behind all of this. He, as it turns out, is the biggest Dinar dealer in the world. He feeds his rumors to the U.S. government on a daily basis, which, in turn, feeds it down the chain where it ultimately ends up here. He sets meetings and deadlines which he then hints will portend the release and peg of the Dinar and then reschedules them after the initial flood of new orders comes through. Some believe George Bush is really behind the leaks as a way of preparing for the elimination of social security as we know it -- aka "private Dinar accounts." By working with Jaafari, and the IIF, George W. has encouraged many to rely on the Dinar for retirement rather than on the federal goverment. While George W. acts as if he has a head full of hammers, his grades at Yale --which were higher than Kerry's by the way --prove otherwise. In fact, I have heard that the new Iraqi Dinars were actually printed up during George W.'s first year in office which would show his long term plan in this regard and his patience. How Clay, Lance et al. fit in, I am still working on. However, have you ever noticed that "Clay" and "Lance" both have C's and L's in them? :drunk:


Hey you forgot about the "a's". Thats the most important letter.....The begining of the alphabet.......Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!

[swartzfeger]

Geddy Lee called and told me to ask you to please let up on the Canadians...some of us are nice guys. :huge: :lmao: :wave:

You know, when the dinar finally pegs I'm buying a Rickenbacker. :)

I'll pretend that this thread can get back on track... I think healthy skepticism is good, and that skeptics shouldn't be drawn and quartered for contrarian views.

Where the line is crossed is when members attack the messenger and not the message and cry foul and claim we're all Kool Aid drinkers.

Maybe we can start a separate forum like "Lance/Clay: Svengali" so the people that enjoy the information from rumor posters can read them in relative peace.

[Sandman]

So look at people like me as someone who really does just want to look out for the next guy who may or may not know any better.


If you don't mind I'd like to be responsible for me and my own choices. I also don't recall anyone asking to be saved from themselves.

All the other "dinar dealer conspiracy" theorists need to stop for a second and consider what swartzfeger said. No one has ever said:

THE PEG IS NEAR!!!!!
Quick go to www.dinardork.com and load up now.

If you or the other conspiracy minded people have some kind of proof or an even moderately well thought out argument post it. But your blah blah blah BS pissing and moaning is getting old.

Everyone who has bought and are holding dinar believe to some extent the rumor of the dinar, including you. So before you try to save eveyone here why don't you start with yourself and sell every dinar you have. Then come back and pry the rest of us away from ours.

[Sandman]

And now as we look, who are truly the hostile attackers?

Have fun guys. :wave:


Yeah because we don't cloak our attacks in huggy feeling, "I'm just trying to save you all from your own stupidity" type bulls!t statements.

:wave:

[pvpeacock]

Hey! I'm trying to place another order in response to this thread, but the DinarDork link didn't work. I'm really panicking about this. Please give me another link to DinarDork before it's too late!!!!!!!! I need to max out my new credit card before it pegs!!!!!!!!!

[big time]

Actually, how we are makes US the CAPITOL (not CAPITAL you intelligent European) of the world. We don't blindly follow a hero....a hero becomes one because he has earned respect.

I'll ask you to read your history, wherever you are, and become a bit more humble before us ignorant Americans. We have saved a WHOLE lotta a## out there...probably your ancestors as well.

No I'm not trying to shut down a thread disagreeing, I was trying to ignore the bombs being thrown. This thread was pre-destined to spiral out to name calling, etc. You're the perfect proof of that. G'Day mate.

Sir, I'm not European. (Remember what I said about personal attacks tsk.. tsk..) And Remember lower Canada, Yes I said Canada. Kicked your guys A$$E$ at one time.So read an unbiased, un-american history book. Please enlighten me on how you are the self proclaimed capital of the world. By the way the proper Merriam-Webster dictionary spelling is CAPITAL, please check it out. My grammar my not be proper but i'm not a dumb A$$, and help run a friends multi million dollar oilfield company, and am just doing this for fun. So, please don't patronize me or I'll buy your house out from under you. Or are you just a frat boy diligently typing away at your keyboard that your daddy bought for you, in your dorm room. not a peronal attack, just defending myself :mad: ! You never know who is on the other end of the keyboard. They may actually be a lot more successful than you, and a lot more smarter. Just because you have 1,538 post to my few dozen does'nt make you any smarter than me. Maybe on this subject, but not in REAL life. Remember my son. This is all just a game. Now go to bed without your dinner.

P.S. You know, I don't even feel bad for posting this because this thread is dedicated to this subject. If you don't like it leave.

[swartzfeger]

Sir, I'm not European. (Remember what I said about personal attacks tsk.. tsk..) And Remember lower Canada, Yes I said Canada. Kicked your guys A$$E$ at one time.So read an unbiased, un-american history book. Please enlighten me on how you are the self proclaimed capital of the world. By the way the proper Merriam-Webster dictionary spelling is CAPITAL, please check it out. My grammar my not be proper but i'm not a dumb A$$, and help run a friends multi million dollar oilfield company, and am just doing this for fun. So, please don't patronize me or I'll buy your house out from under you. Or are you just a frat boy diligently typing away at your keyboard that your daddy bought for you, in your dorm room. not a peronal attack, just defending myself :mad: ! You never know who is on the other end of the keyboard. They may actually be a lot more successful than you, and a lot more smarter. Just because you have 1,538 post to my few dozen does'nt make you any smarter than me. Maybe on this subject, but not in REAL life. Remember my son. This is all just a game. Now go to bed without your dinner.

Oh no, the feel-good altruistic Canadian is going to buy the houses out from under us greedy Americans. Lock the doors!

You know BT, you never got off on the right foot here at IIF... you come in disparaging America/Americans, people sling back, and suddenly you play innocent as if you're being targeted by baseless attacks. The BS on both sides have to stop.

On your end, it would help if you quit shoehorning "evil American hegemony" bullsh*t into every dinar related post.

[bottlebush]

Well==Guess I'll take a break.
Y'all.
There is the Off the wall thread for that stuff.
Get my drift ????

[F355]

some of the Canadians on this forum should be more appreciative of our good neighbours to the south...if it wasn't for their courageous stance against terrorism, you would be missing out on a chance at the INVESTMENT OF A LIFETIME!!!
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, SHUT UP AND STOP EMBARRASSING ME!!! :mad: :mad:

[big time]

Oh no, the feel-good altruistic Canadian is going to buy the houses out from under us greedy Americans. Lock the doors!

You know BT, you never got off on the right foot here at IIF... you come in disparaging America/Americans, people sling back, and suddenly you play innocent as if you're being targeted by baseless attacks. The BS on both sides have to stop.

On your end, it would help if you quit shoehorning "evil American hegemony" bullsh*t into every dinar related post.
Define how I did'nt get off on the right foot. I don't believe you are "evil American hegemony" Whatever that means. I have repeatedly said you guys have been there for us. I even joked that our only submarines are in the west edmonton mall ferrying tourists in the dolphin pool. Please check your facts.You have no idea how un-innocent I am. Like I said, this thread is for this discussion. If you don't like it please leave. By the way, my idea of pushing peoples buttons and sitting back and watching the show is purely comical. Like I've said before, that is how you guage people and their personalities. It's hard to do that on the internet when you can't see body language, facial expressions etc... I do it to test peoples characters and therefore their dinar theories. I am strictly only here for bone,basic information. If you think I'm all tore up over this, you are extremelly mistaken sir.

[big time]

some of the Canadians on this forum should be more appreciative of our good neighbours to the south...if it wasn't for their courageous stance against terrorism, you would be missing out on a chance at the INVESTMENT OF A LIFETIME!!!
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, SHUT UP AND STOP EMBARRASSING ME!!! :mad: :mad:
I've never once mentioned that I don't agree with their stand on terrorism. I believe Canada could be doing a hell of a lot more. For that I"M embarrassed.

[big time]

Since when did being called a European become an attack? Do you have some issues with our European brethren?



Pretty sad when you have to go back 200 years on behalf of your country to find a time you beat anyone.



Look around you...can you spend your Canadian funny money as many places as US dollars? Which major countries base their currency on yours. I think it is an established fact that the US is the leader of the world.

[QUOTE=big time]
So, please don't patronize me or I'll buy your house out from under you. Or are you just a frat boy diligently typing away at your keyboard that your daddy bought for you, in your dorm room. not a peronal attack, just defending myself :mad: ! You never know who is on the other end of the keyboard. They may actually be a lot more successful than you, and a lot more smarter
[/QUOTE.

*ahem* more smarter? Ummmmmmkay then.
All I said was I'm not European. How does that constitute an attack. Please take it all in, in a calm manner

[swartzfeger]

Define how I did'nt get off on the right foot. I don't believe you are "evil American hegemony" Whatever that means. I have repeatedly said you guys have been there for us. I even joked that our only submarines are in the west edmonton mall ferrying tourists in the dolphin pool. Please check your facts.You have no idea how un-innocent I am. Like I said, this thread is for this discussion. If you don't like it please leave. By the way, my idea of pushing peoples buttons and sitting back and watching the show is purely comical. Like I've said before, that is how you guage people and their personalities. It's hard to do that on the internet when you can't see body language, facial expressions etc... I do it to test peoples characters and therefore their dinar theories. I am strictly only here for bone,basic information. If you think I'm all tore up over this, you are extremelly mistaken sir.

Well, even your wife had to chastise you on your posting etiquette, correct?

Your posts vacillate between "America, our friendly neighbor of the south!" and "typical greedy Americans" spiel. I have "checked" my facts -- I read your bipolar posts on a daily basis.

It's amazing now that people like yourself that are questioning Clay/Lance et al are telling the people that want to read rumors to leave the rumors forum. It makes no sense. If the rumor guys are these evil svengalis, then perhaps the rumors forum isn't for you.

I don't think **anyone** (with the exception of a select few) have a problem with intelligent discourse on the pros/cons of rumors. What we *DO* have a problem with is when members drag knee jerk anti-Americanism and tinfoil hat Lance/Clay theories into the mix.

Thanks for playing, tell him his consolation prize, Big Daddy Dinar! :happy64:

[BBbucks]

Swartzfeger- I for one am so glad you are BACK!! You are really good at kickin' a**!!! :D

[swartzfeger]

Swartzfeger- I for one am so glad you are BACK!! You are really good at kickin' a**!!! :D

Oh, I'm just passing the time until 8/16. :D

[big time]

You sound so smart and educated. I want to be just like you. Do you run a cult I could join? I hope everyone joins me in worshiping the almighty Big Time.
"and I never attack a individuals character" I believe you called me a bipolar/alcoholic/idiot.........how did you know??
You must not be smart and educated. I NEVER called anyone bipolar/alcoholic/idiots. That was NADDAD ODADDA on another post. Why am I defending myself to people that jump to conclusions.