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[Big.V]

And another one. I have the bones marked on body. I remember you Big.V

So do tell mate.

"As the Dark Time draws near, prepare, gather resources. Bow down and pray before God and ask for protection and strength, do not sit idle prepare.CROW"

Originally Posted by harold4187
I would like to hear from Crow BUT he Scares ME. Read his post.
And i dont care easy.

Only those that are evil should fear me. For I eat the dragon.

Posted By Crow
Word of God.

I was in a center for people who are mentally challenged, I am connected to this operation and have gotten to know all the people, great people. Today as I stood there watching everyone going about they're activities I felt a great sense of pride, happiness that I was able to help and in a way protect them. Then the words came to me clear "For they help and protect you" When God speaks it is clear and powerful. These great people give me strength and are protecting me, strange but true!


Sure you aren't one of those patients?

Talking about dealers on a site with a dozen other sites paid and advertised by dealers. From English to Espanol. Covered every angle of this story and seen all the kooks. Right Crow?


Posted By Crow
Well most of the articles we get are the same...

Well most of the articles we get are the same thing pumped out over the years by the GOI, not much has really been done, so we are in a state of limbo. Over the years some have lost they're minds, others have found God....but soon something really will happen! Real sooon!

[Big.V]

REITman, when one follows Gods path it is a learning experience, mistakes will be made, it is not easy. Frank will make mistakes, he will learn, his true test is yet to come, it will test his faith and will prove to himself and others if he has been "touched". And yes REITman I mean spirit, so no jokes! I love when God tests one. For it is the hardest test one will face, few pass. CROW


Three years ago I made a special trip to North Carolina, I had heard of a graveyard, very old. It was part of a large plantation and it was said to be the burial place of many slaves, I knew I had to go there, I had to find it and go there. With the help of associates in N.C I tracked this location down and we made our there, 3 mile hike through the woods to the location. It was over grown and hard to find, but I found it, I asked the others to leave, leave me alone and I would join them later. The place was very strange, hundreds of burials, the ground pitted and uneven, sunken, collapsed with the settled graves. As I stood there and prayed one vision came to my mind, the grave digger, at work digging the many graves, he did so with great care and with prayer each and everyone he dug. Two months ago I became associated with a person of great wisdom and of great strength, a key part of my current project. He has relatives buried in that graveyard. CROW


I know many pray for this to be, I pray to understand this situation and now I do. Things happen, death, sickness, money problems, stuff happens, it's all a part of life, prayer helps, preachers, ministers, all people of the cloth help with these things. There is a preacher on the forum, when things play out seek comfort from him, as I will be busy, I have work to do, God's work. CROW......:

Posted By Crow
"Crow what religion are you?" I am all...

"Crow what religion are you?" I am all religions....yet belong to none.

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Kookish and Cultish indeed, surprised you do not talk as you did from the brotherhood……"Family…the CBI today has …blab la bla". I see where you come from. Lead the way brother. Keep praying for that clown, whatever if I am one, but could be the man in the mirror, eh Crow.The resurrected GENX of the IIF, incognito

[gjames_54]

I am not claiming to be very smart in this arena, but I do have a vested interest as well. The real question is.. Why would the US have such a high interest in a currency that in the long run would mean absolutely nothing when it comes to it's market value? I have been reading all of these threads and we all have our own opinion. When I actually look at what has been transpiring here in the US with the bank bail outs/ billions of dollar giveaways and the wall street fiasco, what is it that we don't know about the RV/LOP?? The high level meetings that has been going on throughout the world definately would not involve us dinar investors and I am willing to bet my last dinar that it involves some type of restitution that is owed to the US for what we have done for the Iraqi's. Iraq has more natural resources than it knows what to do with and when the time comes, The dinar WILL RV!! We have to just be patient and get on with our lives. I tell my wife that one night we will go to sleep as normal Americans and wake up millionaires! This I am sure of...I welcome any comment on this.

[Big.V]

I am not claiming to be very smart in this arena, but I do have a vested interest as well. The real question is.. Why would the US have such a high interest in a currency that in the long run would mean absolutely nothing when it comes to it's market value? I have been reading all of these threads and we all have our own opinion. When I actually look at what has been transpiring here in the US with the bank bail outs/ billions of dollar giveaways and the wall street fiasco, what is it that we don't know about the RV/LOP?? The high level meetings that has been going on throughout the world definately would not involve us dinar investors and I am willing to bet my last dinar that it involves some type of restitution that is owed to the US for what we have done for the Iraqi's. Iraq has more natural resources than it knows what to do with and when the time comes, The dinar WILL RV!! We have to just be patient and get on with our lives. I tell my wife that one night we will go to sleep as normal Americans and wake up millionaires! This I am sure of...I welcome any comment on this.

Honorable post James. Perhaps you are correct.

[Big.V]

Crow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IGGY
Do tell, I would like to hear some of Crows Beliefs
I am very restricted in what I can do. Warnings are marked on my body.

Remember there is only one to follow and that is GOD. The spirit, GOD is in side each of us, no mortal is to be followed. I am trying to help, but never to influence or control I have marked on my body this warning. Only bow down before GOD, only GOD. crow

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What mental hospital did you escape from, ya fruit loop? Taking "sound" advice from a "sound" individual.

[Big.V]

An update by GenX that was just added to Frank's post..........I am very curious to hear what SFmedic and other info gatherers on this forum have to say about these 15 items. Real or imaginary??
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I wish to present to you data that GENX worked on today for us. I asked him to define windows of opportunity within the remaining days of this calendar month. It is long but not complicated. Please enjoy ……….you may have to read it more than once what he is trying to share with us. On a personal note………thank you GENX kindly.



Frank: some thoughts that might help clear uo the confusion and shed a little light on the perplexing question of When?

As in any situation there always is a series of questions that arise when what is said is heard by many ears each hearing some he or she is sure the person speaking is saying. This in itself is a huge mistake and creates many misunderstandings as to what was really stated and what was meant by the presenter. This is what is happening in this extended wait on the RV. Allow me to present what in my opinion what the situation really is.

1. Iraq needs to RV ASAP for their own economic security.
2. Certain constraints have been applied conditionally that Iraq has to meet.
3. Iraq has been granted Soverign Status by the UN
4. Most if not all Contraints have been conditionally met
5. The HCL law has been conditioinally passed and signed, The conditions are that the distribution of funds were to be renegotiated in this present sitting of Parliment.
6. Kuwait and Iraq have unsettled claims but have a conditional agreement which was signed last month [March].
7. Saudi Arabia also has similar unsettled claims and they too were conditionally settled last month.[March]
8. Iraq thru these agreed settlements was recently admitted to the GCC and Opec.
9. Iraq wants to be a member of the WTO.
10. The ISX wants to to go electronic and Global.
11. Iraq wants to revalue it currency to a value exceeding the pre Saddam era.
12. Iraq wants to attract investors to share in bringing their oil to the market.
13. Iraq wants to have investors invest in the economy by building Hotels and transportation systems.
14. Iraq wants to rebuild it desperately needed infrastructure such as roads, power generating systems and electical grids. Water purification and waste water treatment facilities.
15. Iraq wants to increase it domestic farm production to raise the level to a export no import status.

This is a list of 15 noted items that can only be accomplished by a RV. It is not possible without a substantial RV like into the $5 to $6 range. The cost of the RV will be offset by the sale of smaller denominations and the reserve currentcy will be a International high of 3 or 4 to one. Since they are already using fractioinal Banking the in country RV money will be covered by fractional banking and the speculators will be paid with the proceeds from the sale of small denoms. Now to make this all happen other considerations have to be followed in a logical progressive fashion. Understading this is what I will try to explain.

The ISX does not need a RV to go electronic but does need a International Accepted Currency to go Global.
The IMF annual currency value meeting takes place on April 20th thru 26th . Iraq needs to revalue by the 18th of April to make this meetings agenda. If they do not the currency will not be IMF approved until September 30th.

Iraq is running in the red as far as finances go at present due to lack of value of currency, it takes too much dinar out of circulation to purchase dollars presently and this is pushing them further into the Red.

The large auction today was predicted by me yesterday but it did not accomplish what Al Shabbi hoped as the physical part of the currency auction was less than 40 million. All the available 3 zero bills are basically in the hands of the CBI. The invited were sent out and no one showed for the party.

The next logical step needed is the RV and all of these problems will be mostly eliminated.

A logical order in now in place and these steps have to be followed step by step to make this work for Iraq and ourselves. Let us hope Al Shabibi hears the same way we do. What is being SAID VERY LOUDLY IS THAT IT IS TIME TO GET ER DONE! AS SIMPLE AND PLAIN SPOKEN AS CAN BE DONE. WE UNDERSTAND TALIBANI UNDERSTANDS, THE MINISTERS UNDERSTAND BUT SOMEONE DID NOT HEAR WHAT WAS SAID THE WAY WE SAID IT. GenerationX
http://dinarrumor.com/showthread.php...highlight=genx

The above links Genx and Frank together. Now the item below links you to Frank.

Crow ,

I believe that is what bonded me to you . I too speak ............... repentance .

By the way , many were confused with you but many also.................... heard and felt .

I understand my faith ...... BUT . I can not figure out if our investment adventure is at an END or .....................the BEGINNING ? I MUST be logical , but dog on it ! ...................... something is happening !

KTF at .84 ,

Frank

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Originally Posted by Crow
What if they ignore me? " None will ignore the thunder"......

Did you get this Frank?

Found in your archives of posts. Now below lists similar phrases of the religious mumbo jumbo.

I know many pray for this to be, I pray to...

I know many pray for this to be, I pray to understand this situation and now I do. Things happen, death, sickness, money problems, stuff happens, it's all a part of life, prayer helps, preachers, ministers, all people of the cloth help with these things. There is a preacher on the forum, when things play out seek comfort from him, as I will be busy, I have work to do, God's work. CROW......:

As the Dark Time draws near, prepare, gather resources. Bow down and pray before God and ask for protection and strength, do not sit idle prepare.CROW


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So Crow, who were you before? You get kicked out of the Dinar "Holy Fellowship" and Brotherhood?

And you question me?

[Big.V]

IIF you guys can ban me, or whatever, just dont take my birthday away lol. But whats right is right. This nut Crow had it coming to him. As Crow would say...let us pray family

[Crow]

IIF you guys can ban me, or whatever, just dont take my birthday away lol. But whats right is right. This nut Crow had it coming to him. As Crow would say...let us pray family

I'm no preacher.

[Crow]

Crow
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Join Date: Jun 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IGGY
Do tell, I would like to hear some of Crows Beliefs
I am very restricted in what I can do. Warnings are marked on my body.

Remember there is only one to follow and that is GOD. The spirit, GOD is in side each of us, no mortal is to be followed. I am trying to help, but never to influence or control I have marked on my body this warning. Only bow down before GOD, only GOD. crow

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What mental hospital did you escape from, ya fruit loop? Taking "sound" advice from a "sound" individual.

I run it.

[War Eagle]

I thought this was supposed to be a forum about the IRAQ DINAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RoyalBeluga]

I thought this was supposed to be a forum about the IRAQ DINAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's very entertaining, whatever they're talking about

[Investors Iraq]

IIF you guys can ban me, or whatever, just dont take my birthday away lol. But whats right is right. This nut Crow had it coming to him. As Crow would say...let us pray family

And I thought Crow was bizarre!!!

You make him look rather pedestrian.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Will it lop? Or will it rv? Will it move up another pip? Or just stay the same?

Stay tuned for another episode of "As The Dinar Turns"

[English Bob]

I run it.

Crow


And run it very well from what I have heard!

EB

[Big.V]

And I thought Crow was bizarre!!!

You make him look rather pedestrian.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Will it lop? Or will it rv? Will it move up another pip? Or just stay the same?

Stay tuned for another episode of "As The Dinar Turns"

It's definitely turning, and definitely entertaining. And of course System Admin, your opinion is held highly, wink wink

[sgmunson]

Talk about a serious waste of posts. The number of dinar outstanding is 1) not just the number of physical dinar in circulation, but all the bank account balances as well, and 2) is nearing 40 TRILLION.

Using that number, indeed, backing it 100% as they do now would require $40 TRILLION USD - more money than anyone on earth has hanging around, including any one country. That's an amount equal to $6666.66 for each of the 6 BILLION people on earth. Surely you can't possibly expect any kind of 1 to 1 based on the current VALUE of the US Dollar...

Far more likely is that the US Dollar will crash and become nearly worthless, by being devalued at 1000:1 or more, and then, perhaps, the dinar will be at par with the USD. You might then be able to pay off your mortgage, but the cost of living will probably still exceed whatever millions of USD you may have at that point, because basic comfortable living costs of $1500 USD / month (based on NO mortgage) would likely balloon to $15 MILLION USD / month in such a scenario.

Steve
(aka sgmunson)

[RUGBYLAIRD19]

Talk about a serious waste of posts. The number of dinar outstanding is 1) not just the number of physical dinar in circulation, but all the bank account balances as well, and 2) is nearing 40 TRILLION.

Using that number, indeed, backing it 100% as they do now would require $40 TRILLION USD - more money than anyone on earth has hanging around, including any one country. That's an amount equal to $6666.66 for each of the 6 BILLION people on earth. Surely you can't possibly expect any kind of 1 to 1 based on the current VALUE of the US Dollar...

Far more likely is that the US Dollar will crash and become nearly worthless, by being devalued at 1000:1 or more, and then, perhaps, the dinar will be at par with the USD. You might then be able to pay off your mortgage, but the cost of living will probably still exceed whatever millions of USD you may have at that point, because basic comfortable living costs of $1500 USD / month (based on NO mortgage) would likely balloon to $15 MILLION USD / month in such a scenario.

Steve
(aka sgmunson)

I understand what you are saying but.... Ive often wondered just how much they REALLY have to back up with dollars. For example: they RV at 1 to 1. Do they have to back up what is sitting in all the Iraqi banks? Why would they, when it's their money in their country and they already have possesion of them. Would they have to back up what's sitting in the hands of all the Iraqi people? Why would an Iraqi exchange for dollars if they were worth the same amount and once again, their money/their country. And then there's the Dinars that supposedly other countries are holding, (U.S., Britain, etc) Knowing a run on the CBI would do the country in and undo all thats been accomplished, I doubt we (the U.S. and any other country holding Dinar), would run to the nearest exchange office. IMO the only real threat to the crashing of the CBI would be from all of us private investors exchanging our Dinars. Of course that would be softened by the idea that not all Dinars would make it back to Iraq, because they are now held by foreign banks as part of their Foreign Currency Investment Porfolio. Just thoughts...Rugbylaird19.

[I AM]

Talk about a serious waste of posts. The number of dinar outstanding is 1) not just the number of physical dinar in circulation, but all the bank account balances as well, and 2) is nearing 40 TRILLION.

Using that number, indeed, backing it 100% as they do now would require $40 TRILLION USD - more money than anyone on earth has hanging around, including any one country. That's an amount equal to $6666.66 for each of the 6 BILLION people on earth. Surely you can't possibly expect any kind of 1 to 1 based on the current VALUE of the US Dollar...



Steve
(aka sgmunson)

Dont count this one out yet. Our government is doing all it can to print the 40 Trillion USD as we type....

[War Eagle]

ANY way you cut it,Iraq will have to lop to get down to a reasonaBLE AMOUNT-SEE STEVE'S POST-LOP 3 ZEROS AND YOU HAVE 20 BILLION-AND iRAQ CAN HANDLE THIS FIGURE.THEN,MAYBE a reval 0f 3.22-1,still a pretty good return on our investment!!!!!imho--------------------------------------REMEMBER,I am not A lopster,PER SA;THERE IS nobody ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE A MILLIONAIRE MORE THAN ME---------------BUT IT IS SIMPLY NOT LOGICAL--SO,IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN

[sunsetjet]

What happens if and when the dinar hits the forex, if they start it out at say .17 and the traders are willing to pay say .34 then would they have not covered the already amount they have flooded the market with?
I am not sure how the forex works, so this is just a question.
thanks in advance.

[RUGBYLAIRD19]

What happens if and when the dinar hits the forex, if they start it out at say .17 and the traders are willing to pay say .34 then would they have not covered the already amount they have flooded the market with?
I am not sure how the forex works, so this is just a question.
thanks in advance.

IMO most all trading is done on paper, so this is a distinct possibility. It would be a way for the Dinar value to rise without Iraq having to increase their reserves. This goes along with my above post which points to Iraq only having to cover what comes back to them. If anything comes back to them. Rugbylaird19.