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    Yes, We Can Abolish the IRS

    Yes, We Can Abolish the IRS

    June 14, 2013 by Chip Wood

    Jay Leno knows what his audience likes to hear. In his opening monologue last week, the “Tonight Show” host had a wonderful suggestion on how we should deal with the Internal Revenue Service:

    “President Obama says he’s renewing his efforts to close Guantanamo Bay. Guantanamo Bay? How about closing the IRS? Why don’t we do that?”

    The reaction, you won’t be surprised to hear, was thunderous applause. So Jay offered a follow-up suggestion: “How about shipping the IRS to Guantanamo Bay?” The laughs and applause were long and loud.

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/497055


    OK, let’s admit we’re not going to ship America’s most unpopular agency to a remote corner of Cuba — as attractive as the idea might be. But let’s not overlook the incredible opportunity we’re being given here.

    Bless their arrogant little hearts. By spending taxpayers’ money so foolishly, and targeting conservative and patriotic groups for special scrutiny, the bureaucrats at the IRS have given us the best opportunity in years to rein in their power.

    Rein it in? Heck, how about launching a national campaign to abolish this odious agency once and for all?

    I’m not kidding. The scandals embroiling this detested agency have presented us with a tremendous opportunity to expand the debate from the IRS’s misbehavior and instead put the emphasis on an issue that could truly transform this country: Let’s replace the income tax with something a whole lot simpler and fairer. That’s the best way to abolish the IRS.

    Everybody admits that the present tax system is an abomination. The tax code is so complicated that it is virtually impossible for the average taxpayer to understand. But that’s just the least of the objections to it.

    The graduated income tax is an essential part of the plot to transform our free and independent Republic into a socialistic state. Very few Americans are aware that a graduated income tax was one of Karl Marx’s essential recommendations to create a communist society. In fact, a heavy progressive or graduated income tax is the second plank of his Communist Manifesto.

    Long before the present scandals erupted, the IRS was the most hated and feared agency of the U.S. government. It’s easy to understand why. What other agency can grab your bank account, padlock your business or seize your property (including your home) without even bothering to get a court order?

    President Ronald Reagan’ son, Michael Reagan, put it very well when he wrote in a recent column:

    The federal income tax code deserves the death penalty for a lot of good reasons. It’s unfair, overly complex, horribly politicized, harmful to individuals and the economy, helpful to the forces of big government, and impossible to understand without a CPA.

    It’s also a costly waste of money and time. Just complying with our unnecessarily (but deliberately) complicated federal tax system costs Americans about $430 billion a year, according to economist Arthur Laffer.

    Right. So how do we convert the present anger about IRS abuses into an effective national campaign to abolish the IRS? We need to make it an issue — maybe the issue — of next year’s national elections.

    Remember, every seat in the House of Representatives will be at stake in 2014. Barack Obama has already promised to do everything in his power to see that Democrats regain a majority there.

    I shudder to think what will happen to this country if he succeeds. Can you imagine what it will be like if Nancy Pelosi wins back her title as Speaker of the House of Representatives?

    Needless to say, the left will pull out all of the stops to campaign against “the rich.” We’re about to see some of the nastiest, most scurrilous campaigns in history. They’ll make the “Granny Off The Cliff” commercials from the last go-around seem mild by comparison.

    But there is one issue that will appeal to every working American: curbing the outrageous abuses of the IRS. Eliminating the graduated income tax is the best way — in fact, the only way — to do so.

    The two most popular proposals out there to replace the present tax system are the flat tax and the FairTax. The former would impose a simple flat-tax percentage on all incomes, with only a few deductions still allowed. The latter would replace an income tax with a national sales tax.

    Which one should we favor? I like what Reagan had to say about this argument:

    If my father Ronald Reagan were around today, I know what he’d do.

    He’d do exactly what I’d do — get the flat-taxers and the fair-taxers together in a room and have them hash out a single tax reform program to sell to the American people.


    The Flat Tax and the Fair Tax each have pluses and minuses that need to be debated. But in the end it really doesn’t matter which idea triumphs.

    America and all Americans would be better off with either one. Either would eliminate the progressive tax system and make federal taxes simpler, fairer, smarter, and apolitical. And, best of all, either one would kill the IRS as we know it — forever.


    I can’t think of anything that would do more to help our economy than eliminating the progressive income tax. Existing businesses would expand. New businesses would be started. Millions of new jobs would be created.

    No longer would April 15 represent a dreaded national nightmare. Instead, your tax obligation would be easy to calculate and reasonable to pay. Our savings in time, effort and anguish would be enormous.

    Instead of a system built on fear and intimidation, we would be proud to have helped to create one that is simple, reasonable and fair.

    Replacing the present system won’t be easy. But our enemies have given us an incredible opportunity to go on the offensive against the monstrosity they have birthed. Let’s take full advantage of it.

    Leno had the right idea — and his audience loved it. Let’s seize the day. After all, we have nothing to lose but our chains.

    Until next time, keep some powder dry.

    –Chip Wood

    http://personalliberty.com/2013/06/1...olish-the-irs/
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    "Our savings in time, effort and anguish would be enormous."

    That would translate to about ten years added to your life, more if your young.
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    association with smarter people." --Will Rogers

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    “President Obama says he’s renewing his efforts to close Guantanamo Bay. Guantanamo Bay? How about closing the IRS? Why don’t we do that?”

    Why doesn't he close his big mouth?
    A veteran - whether active duty, reserve, national guard or retired - is someone who, at one point in their life, wrote a blank check made payable to "The United States of America", for an amount of "up to and including my life." - That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.:rock:

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    I couldn't agree more with this thread.. I like both Flat and Fair Tax. However, the Flat tax keeps some of the mechanics around and can easily reverted back into a income tax. The Fair Tax,.... you pay at the point on purchases on new items only. The % of what they would charge on purchases can be much lower if they just down size the government. It will lift more people out of poverty than ever before. The only thing is.....The Democrats would not know how to govern with out a income tax..... It eliminates there control over the population/business......

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    How does the ‪#‎FairTax‬ compare to a flat income tax and our current system? THIS is the comparison chart to save and share with your friends: www.fairtax.org/flatfaircompare
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    Quote Originally Posted by tmorr37 View Post
    How does the ‪#‎FairTax‬ compare to a flat income tax and our current system? THIS is the comparison chart to save and share with your friends: www.fairtax.org/flatfaircompare
    Thanks tmorr37,
    I see this is a updated one!! Love to see The Fair Tax pass.

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    Prosperity Can Return, And The Fix is Simple

    March 8, 2010 by Bob Livingston


    Income tax to the Federal Government is not for income to the government—not one penny.

    What is it for then? It is for social control. This is a fiat money syndrome. Fiat paper money causes more direct government control over citizens. In filing Federal Income Tax forms people reveal a complete profile of their public as well as their private lives.

    The system requires that the people must believe that Federal income taxes are for income flow to the Federal Government. Nonsense, nonsense. No fiat (money) goes to Washington as taxes!

    Where does it go? It returns to ether, from whence it came. Where does the Federal Government get its money? Modern government money is electronic. It is not your taxes.

    And in reality, Federal Government has no debt. How can the Federal Government have debt with electronic money that is nothing more than computer symbols that can be created to infinity?

    Every egghead in the land believes that there is Federal debt. The Federal debt elves have gotten into their heads. They totally misunderstand monetary realism.

    Oh yes, the Federal debt hoax has a serious purpose. It throws sand in our eyes to keep the people from waking up to the fact that the Federal Government just creates all the “money.” There might be an “income tax” rebellion if a goodly number of people discovered the Federal debt hoax. Come now, if you could create trillions in electronic money, would you have debt? No, you wouldn’t, and neither does the Federal Government.

    The income tax is totally a propaganda system to keep the population from discovering the nature of Federal Government finance. Income tax is not about money going to Washington as taxes.

    It is about control and social engineering of transferring production and wealth from the producers to the non-producers, and it comes right out of Karl Marx’s Manifesto.

    And dear friends, can you even imagine the parasite load of accountants and lawyers pretending to help the Federal Government collect taxes? They actually believe that they are collecting taxes. They have no concept of reality.

    I challenge any living being to disprove what I have written here. What we need is truth.

    The hour is past late.

    Greed and vested interest have brought America to a state of collapse. Accountants and lawyers are parasites on the income tax fraud.

    Since the income tax does not supply income to the government it can be permanently abolished. After all, Federal income tax was nil until 1939.

    It’s all very simple except for the giant cover of deceit and fraud in America. Elimination of the Federal income tax would restore confidence and a new day of prosperity and economic relief.

    Domestic labor could and would be cheaper and corporations which have moved offshore would move back.

    America is not in economic trouble except for the fraud of politicians and vested interests. President Obama would have to know this.

    Abolishing the income tax would eliminate the oppression of a whole army of tax collectors and their lackey accountants and lawyers. This would make way for sound and honest healthcare and Social Security.

    Abolishing the income tax would not cost the United States government a dime. Federal income tax is the scam of and scourge of history used by tyrants to oppress the people and make them support a perpetual increase in the size of government.

    What I have said here does not apply to state and local governments. All of you know that they can’t print money or create money electronically as does the Federal Government.

    The American people need to know the truth now about the fraud and deceit of the Federal income tax. It will never be debated in the controlled media or by the politicians. They don’t want you to know.

    But only 1 percent of the “taxpayers” could start an income tax rebellion simply by telling the truth to fellow Americans. It is our last chance!
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    Our country stands divided so there will never be change. Did you know the interest and penalties the IRS collects goes to the IMF.
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