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    How Georgia – Russia war connected to the Iraq’s oil and gas law

    Aug. 18, 2008


    In this article on Al-Watan, Al-Bii explains the connection between the Georgia - Russia war connected to the approval of the Iraqi gas and oil law.

    The writer argues that the approval with this law is now not only an American demand but also a European essential question.

    Georgia’s borders on the Black Sea, surrounded from the north, east and south, by four countries Russia, Azerbaijan and Armenia and Turkey.

    From Azerbaijan, through Russia to Europe are the “corridors of power”, where the energy line passes via the Russian territory, across Georgian territory to Turkey (then to Europe) or to the Black Sea.

    It is in the EU interest that “corridors of power” via the Georgian territory to stay safe and secure, and the need for the Russia’s oil and gas, is the strength of the “Russian defense” that the EU will not take the Georgian side.

    The U.S. knows this, to “liberate” the EU from the Russian oil and gas, and will dominates the oil and gas export to the EU with Nabucco line (3300 kilometers), which will start in 2010 and become operational year 2013.

    Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki visited Brussels, seeking an agreement to provide European Union with oil and gas through this pipeline, which will gain Turkey, at the first place more strategic importance in the energy security to the European Union.

    Russia, at the same time, established a competitor “gas line” from the Russian Black Sea to Italy, via Serbia and Bulgaria, and probably will be finished before “Nabucco”.

    The European Union’s need of Iraq’s oil and gas lies in two things:

    The EU escalating level of fear from Russia to use the gas to Europe, as a weapon of political - strategic pressure.

    The increase of European Union dependency on Iraq’s oil and gas, and to reduce its dependence on the Russian gas, the EU should reform and rebuilding the Iraqi oil sector, money, technology and expertise. They should also accept the military presence of NATO in Iraq, which is about to reach a convention with the U.S. allows them to keep a permanent military presence in this strategic country, like its military presence in Japan or South Korea or Germany.

    The United States will end its occupation of Iraq, after the approval of the oil and gas law. This is the only condition to sign the strategic energy deal between the European Union and the United States through the Iraqi government, which it should enforce its military and security control on the oil sector in Southern Iraq, in the Basra region in particular.

    http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/08/1...l-and-gas-law/




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    Iraq also wants a relationship between the foreign exchange market and the Iraqi dinar.

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    Addy! Good to see you posting!
    And yes, this was even more about gas and oil than Iraq was!





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    Addy, spot on man!!!

    We will defend those pipelines, Russia move get out of the way B!*&%~~~~~~~~~~~~




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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    How Georgia – Russia war connected to the Iraq’s oil and gas law

    Aug. 18, 2008


    In this article on Al-Watan, Al-Bii explains the connection between the Georgia - Russia war connected to the approval of the Iraqi gas and oil law.

    The writer argues that the approval with this law is now not only an American demand but also a European essential question.

    Georgia’s borders on the Black Sea, surrounded from the north, east and south, by four countries Russia, Azerbaijan and Armenia and Turkey.

    From Azerbaijan, through Russia to Europe are the “corridors of power”, where the energy line passes via the Russian territory, across Georgian territory to Turkey (then to Europe) or to the Black Sea.

    It is in the EU interest that “corridors of power” via the Georgian territory to stay safe and secure, and the need for the Russia’s oil and gas, is the strength of the “Russian defense” that the EU will not take the Georgian side.

    The U.S. knows this, to “liberate” the EU from the Russian oil and gas, and will dominates the oil and gas export to the EU with Nabucco line (3300 kilometers), which will start in 2010 and become operational year 2013.

    Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki visited Brussels, seeking an agreement to provide European Union with oil and gas through this pipeline, which will gain Turkey, at the first place more strategic importance in the energy security to the European Union.

    Russia, at the same time, established a competitor “gas line” from the Russian Black Sea to Italy, via Serbia and Bulgaria, and probably will be finished before “Nabucco”.

    The European Union’s need of Iraq’s oil and gas lies in two things:

    The EU escalating level of fear from Russia to use the gas to Europe, as a weapon of political - strategic pressure.

    The increase of European Union dependency on Iraq’s oil and gas, and to reduce its dependence on the Russian gas, the EU should reform and rebuilding the Iraqi oil sector, money, technology and expertise. They should also accept the military presence of NATO in Iraq, which is about to reach a convention with the U.S. allows them to keep a permanent military presence in this strategic country, like its military presence in Japan or South Korea or Germany.

    The United States will end its occupation of Iraq, after the approval of the oil and gas law. This is the only condition to sign the strategic energy deal between the European Union and the United States through the Iraqi government, which it should enforce its military and security control on the oil sector in Southern Iraq, in the Basra region in particular.

    http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/08/1...l-and-gas-law/
    Adster,

    I have a friend that when Russia and Georgia started this he called me and said this war is all over and about Iraq and their oil.... and I said ..."you think so" he said absolutely!
    Now you post this and I said wow....

    He is soooo smart!

    Thanks for the posting!




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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    The United States will end its occupation of Iraq, after the approval of the oil and gas law. This is the only condition to sign the strategic energy deal between the European Union and the United States through the Iraqi government, which it should enforce its military and security control on the oil sector in Southern Iraq, in the Basra region in particular.

    http://www.roadstoiraq.com/2008/08/1...l-and-gas-law/
    HCL + SOFA = Article VII

    Told ya!





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    the short, sharp lesson that Russian tanks handed to the Georgians this week will have serious consequences in the Middle East.

    First, it means that the Russians are back as pivotal players in the region, with the political will and the military capability to play once more in the game of nations south of the Caucasus mountain chain. That in turn means that Azerbaijan and Armenia, as well as Georgia, are at immediate risk of becoming client states.
    It also means that Turkey and Iran will have to factor the Kremlin back into all their diplomatic calculations as a regional great power with vital interests, just as they did before the collapse of the Soviet Union. And the former Soviet republics of Central Asia would be advised to take the fate of Georgia as a warning to those who think the Kremlin can be defied with impunity.

    Second, it means that Russia is once more within striking distance of controlling all the export routes for the oil and gas of the Caspian basin. That was the monopoly (that at times felt more like a stranglehold) that the Georgia-Turkey pipeline, carrying Azerbaijani oil from Baku to Ceyhan in Turkey, was intended to break.
    The ability of the Georgians to protect and secure that pipeline is now clearly in question, and proposals to extend and increase the capacity of the pipeline will now have to be reconsidered.
    This in turn increases Russia's importance, already huge, in the world's energy markets, and thus in the eyes of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). Russia has already floated the idea of an OPEC-type organization for natural gas exporters, and consumer countries will now be watching nervously for any sign of agreement between Russia and OPEC to limit supplies in order to keep prices high.
    Third, the prestige and authority of the United States, already battered by misadventures in Iraq and its inability to dissuade Iran from its nuclear ambitions, have taken another blow in the region. The United States is unable to protect one of its close allies. Georgia is a country with some 2,000 troops deployed alongside the American forces in Iraq and U.S. military advisers have been training the Georgian army for four years now.

    The question therefore asks itself; what exactly is the point of taking risks to be an ally of the Americans if it brings no protection?
    Fourth, the return of Russia portends a shift in the balance of political forces in the Middle East that for the moment at least appears to weaken the American and pro-Western side of the balance and to strengthen the Iranian side.
    Russia is a major arms supplier to Iran, is completing its new nuclear reactor and power station at Bushehr and is ensuring the U.N. sanctions are not too burdensome.
    We have yet to see how this unfolds elsewhere in the Middle East, but few in the region will

    leave the Russians out of their calculations any more.




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    I think it is abundantly clear per this article that due to the demand for Iraqi Oil that the Dinar will have to be lopped.....



    In case you missed it, the above note is sarcasm.

    ;)




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    Great post Adster !! Thank you !!



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    this is a opinion peice ya thanks for bring it !LOLplease




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    what does lopped mean?




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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryTate View Post
    I think it is abundantly clear per this article that due to the demand for Iraqi Oil that the Dinar will have to be lopped.....



    In case you missed it, the above note is sarcasm.

    ;)

    whew! for a second there i thot u did a flipflop and was lost forever!LOL



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponson View Post
    HCL + SOFA = Article VII

    Told ya!

    Never doubted you for a second.



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