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    السياسية الاولى : المالكي: ”صوفا “ سترسل إلى البرلمان خلال عشرة أيام Political one: Al-Maliki: "Sufa" will be sent to parliament within ten days




    المشهداني يؤكد وجود سبعة بنود خلافية ومجلس النواب يستعد لتشريع قانون للتصويت على الاتفاقية الأمنية The scene confirms the existence of seven items controversial and the House of Representatives is preparing legislation for the law to vote on convention security
    بغداد - الصباح BAGHDAD - Al Sabah
    اعلن رئيس الوزراء نوري المالكي ان الحكومة سترسل مسودة الاتفاقية الامنية بين العراق والولايات المتحدة الاميركية الى البرلمان خلال عشرة ايام، وفي وقت يستعد مجلس النواب لسن قانون او تشريع للتصويت على "صوفا"، Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki that the government will send a draft Security Agreement between Iraq and the United States to parliament within ten days, at the time of the House of Representatives is preparing to enact a law or legislation to vote on the "Sufa"


    شهدت المفاوضات بين بغداد واربيل بشأن قضية خانقين تقدما كبيرا. Witnessed negotiations between Baghdad and Erbil on the issue of Khanaqin great progress.
    اعلان السيد المالكي جاء عقب اجتماع عقده مع رئيس مجلس النواب الدكتور محمود المشهداني عصر امس. Mr. Maliki declaration came after a meeting with Parliament Speaker Dr. Mahmoud scene yesterday afternoon. رئيس الوزراء قال: ان الحكومة تنتظر رد الجانب الاميركي على مسودة عراقية مقترحة، تحفظ للعراق سيادته ومصالح شعبه، لافتا في الوقت نفسه الى ان اعضاء البرلمان هم من سيقرر القبول بالاتفاقية او رفضها. Prime Minister said: "The government awaits the response of the American draft of an Iraqi proposal, the reservation of Iraq's sovereignty and interests of its people, pointing at the same time that members of parliament are from the Convention will decide to accept or reject. وكان وزير الخارجية هوشيار زيباري قد صرح امس الاول، بان الوفد العراقي المفاوض "انجز المهمة قانونيا وفنيا وشكليا وتم التوصل الى صياغة مسودة واحدة. وعن اجتماعه بالدكتور المشهداني، اوضح رئيس الحكومة في تصريح صحفي انه زار رئيس البرلمان للاطمئنان عليه بعد عودته من رحلة علاج في عمان، وانه تم خلال اللقاء بحث جملة من القضايا ابرزها قانون انتخابات مجالس المحافظات. من جهته كشف المشهداني عن وجود سبعة بنود خلافية بين بغداد وواشنطن، منوها بان هذه البنود تتطلب اجراء تعديلات عليها حتى تنسجم مع الوضع الايجابي في البلاد. واضاف رئيس البرلمان بشأن قانون الانتخابات ان مقترح ممثل الامين العام للامم المتحدة ستيفان دي مستورا يعد الاقرب، بعد قبوله من عدد من الكتل النيابية. The Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari had said yesterday that the Iraqi delegation negotiating team "had completed the task technically and legally and formally been reached drafting one. DR and its scenery, the prime minister told a journalist that he visited Parliament Speaker to reassure him after his return from a medical trip in Oman, and that during the meeting discussed a range of issues notably the Law on Elections provincial assemblies. From the scene on his part revealed the existence of seven contentious items between Baghdad and Washington, noting that these items require amendments so consistent with the positive situation in the country. The Speaker of Parliament on the law Elections that the proposal Representative of the Secretary General of the United Nations, Stefan de Mistura is the closest, after accepting a number of parliamentary blocs.
    في اطار مشابه قال الدكتور باسم شريف النائب عن حزب الفضيلة: ان البرلمان يتجه الى سن قانون خاص للتصويت على الاتفاقية الامنية. Under a similar name, Dr. Sheriff deputy Virtue Party: that the Parliament intends to enact a special law to vote on convention security. ويبدأ في التاسع من الشهر الجاري الفصل التشريعي لمجلس النواب، حيث من المؤمل ان يقر خلال هذا الفصل عدد كبير من القوانين المهمة. Begins on the ninth of this month's legislative chapter of the Chamber of Deputies, where it is hoped that through this chapter recognizes the large number of important laws. وشدد شريف لـ"الصباح" على ضرورة سن تشريع يحدد الالية والطريقة التي يتم فيها التصويت على "صوفا"، منوها بعدم وجود نص قانوني في الدستور يبين كيفية التعامل مع هذه الاتفاقية، وانما النص الموجود يتكلم عن مهام المجلس في التصديق على الاتفاقيات الدولية التي توقع مبدئيا من قبل الحكومة. He told Sharif "Sabah" on the need to enact legislation defining the mechanism and the manner in which they are voting on the "Sufa", noting that there is no legal provision in the constitution indicates how to deal with this Convention, but the existing text speaks of the functions of the Council to ratify the international conventions signed Initially by the Government. ولفت الى انه في حال وقعت الاخيرة الاتفاقية سوف لن تكون ملزمة للحكومات اللاحقة، مشيرا الى ان اقرار التفاهم الامني مع واشنطن يجب ان يتم باغلبية الثلثين، مستبعدا في الوقت نفسه حصول ذلك. He pointed out that in the event took place last convention will not be binding on subsequent governments, pointing out that the adoption of security understanding with Washington must be two-thirds majority, ruled out at the same time get it.
    الى ذلك أعلن مصدر في مكتب الدكتور برهم احمد صالح نائب رئيس الوزراء العراقي ان المفاوضات التي جرت مساء امس بين الحكومة المركزية ووفد حكومة إقليم كردستان بشأن قضية خانقين تشهد تقدماً ملحوظاً. , The source announced in the office of Dr. Barham Ahmad Saleh, Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister that the negotiations that took place yesterday evening between the central government delegation and the Kurdistan Regional Government on the issue of Khanaqin witnessing remarkable progress. وكان ياسين مجيد المستشار الإعلامي لرئاسة الوزراء وصف المباحثات The Yassin Majid information advisor to the prime minister to describe talks
    بـ ”الصريحة والشفافة“. As "frank and transparent."

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    Iraq also wants a relationship between the foreign exchange market and the Iraqi dinar.

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    Here's hoping....

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    Here's demanding
    My thoughts, take what you will!

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    Here goes nothing.

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    More likely we will be hearing in 3 weeks complaints from Parliament that they have not received it from Maliki like so many other things in the past.
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    It funny on no matter how many times Maliki shuffles his cabinet or parliament.they come back and bite him in the #ss.

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    JERSEY DINARHere's hoping.... mozzdinarHere goes nothing.
    WCinIraqHere's demanding


    Here we go again

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    So why is Bush there this week..???

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    within 10 days


    Could be tomorrow then.


    I say stop being so hard nosed. The Iraqis will never stick to anything they sign anyway.
    Just sign the damn thing and move on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ball View Post
    So why is Bush there this week..???

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    Not conclusive he is going.

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    Iraq also wants a relationship between the foreign exchange market and the Iraqi dinar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8ball View Post
    So why is Bush there this week..???

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    I think he is in the US tending to the big blow in the Gulf.

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    Immunity a sticking point in US-Iraq security pact: report

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    BAGHDAD (AFP) — Iraq and the United States are still far apart on the issue of immunity for American troops, according to a draft security agreement between the two countries published by an Iraqi paper on Monday.

    The 27-point agreement will decide the future of American forces in Iraq but immunity for the soldiers and who has jurisdiction over them is the main stumbling block between Washington and Baghdad.

    According to the Arabic-language text published by Al-Iraq newspaper, Iraq has proposed that "the United States have jurisdiction over its civilians and soldiers inside their bases and in areas used by them exclusively."

    The Iraqi proposal also provides for US jurisdiction over its citizens both civilian and military when they are on assignment "unless they commit grave and deliberate mistakes."

    The main stumbling block, according to Al-Iraq, is that the Americans demand "to have jurisdiction everywhere over their citizens, both civilians and military who work for the armed forces."

    Iraq, on the other hand, has proposed that its courts, backed by a joint Iraqi-US committee, look into "deliberate crimes or grave mistakes" that take place.

    The United States will examine this proposal, according to the draft agreement published by Al-Iraq.

    The text also states that Iraq will have jurisdiction over employees of private security companies such as Blackwater found guilty of crimes or misdemeanours.

    An Iraqi official quoted by the website of The Los Angeles Times on Saturday said that if US troops retain immunity, the deal would never be approved by the Iraqi parliament.

    Neither US officials nor Iraq's national security advisor Muwaffaq al-Rubaie would comment on the draft published by Al-Iraq.

    Rubaie said it was a "very sensitive" issue.

    The text published by the paper also states that any Iraqi detained by US-led coalition forces will be handed over to the Iraqi authorities within 24 hours.

    But disagreement persists over the fate of coalition troops held by Iraq.

    The United States wants Iraq to hand over coalition soldiers "immediately" while Iraq says they should be transferred within 24 hours.

    US President George W. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki agreed in principle last November to sign a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) in Iraq by the end of July, but controversy has delayed it.

    The proposed pact will decide the future presence of American forces in Iraq after the December 31 expiry of the UN mandate, which currently acts as the legal basis for their presence in the country.

    American troops will begin withdrawal from Iraqi cities in June 2009, but the draft gives no final date for the complete withdrawal of US troops, which Iraqi negotiators have told AFP will be by the end of 2011.

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    Iraq also wants a relationship between the foreign exchange market and the Iraqi dinar.

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    Iraq's parliament must pass elections law for this year
    The Iraqi elections law must be passed by mid-September.

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    Iraq's parliament must pass a contentious elections law by mid-September in order to allow anticipated provincial polls to be held this year, the Electoral Commission said on Saturday.

    "If the law is passed by September 9 or 10, we can hold the elections on December 22. If it's later than that, we will try for December 31," Commission head Faraj al-Haidari told Reuters.

    If the elections law has not been passed by then, the polls will slip into next year.

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    we are talking in days and they are in years...

    If the elections law has not been passed by then, the polls will slip into next year.

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    Default US, Iraq say key security deal almost signed

    Washington and Baghdad said on Thursday they were very close to signing a crucial military deal that would decide the future of American forces in Iraq after the UN mandate expires in December.
    In a surprise one-day visit to Iraq on Thursday, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the two countries were "very, very close" to finalising the agreement but had not yet clinched the deal.
    Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, however, went a step farther and said the text of the deal was ready and the draft would be presented on Friday to the Political Council for National Security, a strategic body of Iraqi leaders.
    "We are very close, we have a text, but not the final agreement. Everything has been addressed," Zebari told reporters after meeting Rice. He added that the text would be handed over on Friday.
    US President George W. Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki agreed in principle last November to sign a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) in Iraq by the end of July, but controversy has delayed it.
    The proposed pact will decide the future presence of American forces in Iraq after the expiry of the UN mandate, which currently acts as the legal basis for their presence in the country.
    The deal has drawn sharp criticism from Iraq's political factions, especially from the anti-American group of Shiite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr which on Thursday protested against Rice's visit.
    But Rice told reporters in a joint news conference with Zebari that Washington had been very "flexible" in the negotiations.
    "The US has gone very far in this agreement, it is a very advanced agreement," she said before departing for Washington.
    Zebari said the negotiators were "redoubling efforts to bring it (a deal) to a final conclusion."
    "It has taken us a very long time, but we are very, very close to close this agreement," he said, adding that the accord was the most advanced pact Washington had signed with any country.
    He said the draft will be considered on Friday by Iraq's Political Council for National Security, which includes the president, prime minister and leaders of all political parties.
    Earlier on Thursday, Rice said the deal had not yet been signed and there were "still issues concerning exactly how our forces will operate. I think that is only natural at this point."
    During the Rice-Maliki meeting, discussions included "points of agreement and difference," as well as latest developments in talks between Iraqi and American negotiators on the pact, a statement from the premier's office said.
    Asked earlier if the delicate question of immunity was the main sticking point, Rice declined to provide details but said progress was being made.
    "We are continuing to work to make sure that any timeline, aspirational timelines, that are in the agreement really do reflect what we believe and... what is reasonable," she said, adding that she would also discuss a stalled provincial election law that Washington believes is key to national stability.
    The White House has so far refused to be locked into a fixed date for withdrawing US combat troops, but has suggested a series of target dates for giving Iraqis control over security in different parts of the war-torn country.
    Iraqi politicians have bristled at the idea of a continuing defence pact with Washington. The original target date agreed by Bush and Maliki for an agreement was July 31.
    Any deal would first have to be ratified by the Iraqi parliament and the veto-wielding presidency council.
    Zabari insisted that the agreement would be in the interests of both Iraq and its neighbours. Washington's arch-enemy Iran has repeatedly called for a complete withdrawal of US troops.
    With 142,500 American troops still in Iraq, the issue is politically sensitive in Washington as the November US presidential election draws nearer.
    Sadr supporters also denounced Rice's visit.
    "This visit is a bad omen for Iraq. It represents American dictatorship that rejects Iraq's sovereignty," said a banner carried by Sadr followers in the central holy city of Najaf.

    http://www.france24.com/en/20080821-...-almost-signed

    I'm optimistic they can get this last piece hammered out and get this agreement signed. Sounded like at the end of last week they were right on the cusp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prasarthi View Post
    Iraq's parliament must pass elections law for this year
    The Iraqi elections law must be passed by mid-September.

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    Iraq's parliament must pass a contentious elections law by mid-September in order to allow anticipated provincial polls to be held this year, the Electoral Commission said on Saturday.

    "If the law is passed by September 9 or 10, we can hold the elections on December 22. If it's later than that, we will try for December 31," Commission head Faraj al-Haidari told Reuters.

    If the elections law has not been passed by then, the polls will slip into next year.

    Kirkuk is the big issue. Parliament resume 9 September. Believe they're lining this and the SOFA up to be ready to be voted on soon as they return.

    Really hope they get it passed as this is a big peice of the pie.

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    Iraq also wants a relationship between the foreign exchange market and the Iraqi dinar.

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    Day by day our elections creep ever closer. A little over two months off at this point. I would think the Republicans will want some big possitive things happening before the elections.

    After the elections it maybe difficult for Bush to get much passed the congress, with the Democrats picking up so many seats in both houses, no matter what happens in the presidental race.

    If the Democrats pick up the white house along with seats in congress, the Republican agenda is lifeless waiting on its last rights, with the new electees taking office.

    So now is the time for SOFA, oil laws, election laws and the r/v. If they don't happen before the elections Bush may not be able to take credit for them. And their failure to be in place at the end of his term maybe seen as a major failure of his presidency.

    I am no Bush fan. But I would like ever American president to be a sucess.

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    I think Iraq is intentionally dragging their feet on Kirkuk (article 140), the HCL, the election's law, and the SOFA. I believe they will continue to do so, until after the elections in the US. They are hoping for a weaker negotiating partner, such as Obama.

    We are hoping to get the elections law passed. We are hoping more US friendly parliamentarians will be elected and the remaining laws (HCL, SOFA) passed with terms favorable to us. I didn't include article 140 because we don't really care about it. Article 140 is a tool being used by the Iraqi's to delay the elections law.

    I think we'll be waiting until after our elections before anything happens with Iraqi laws. JMO and I hope I'm wrong.

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    I think Iraq is intentionally dragging their feet on Kirkuk (article 140), the HCL, the election's law, and the SOFA. I believe they will continue to do so, until after the elections in the US. They are hoping for a weaker negotiating partner, such as Obama.


    Bingo!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTT View Post

    I think Iraq is intentionally dragging their feet on Kirkuk (article 140), the HCL, the election's law, and the SOFA.

    I believe they will continue to do so, until after the elections in the US.
    They are hoping for a weaker negotiating partner, such as Obama.


    Bingo!!!!!!!

    Which really means 'Next Year' because IF Obama is elected
    he wouldn't take office till he's sworn in in January.
    The Government has the final say concerning the dinar

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