Hate Crime Bill Passes House - Say Goodbye to Free Speech

[tesla]

HR1913 passed by 249-175 in the house yesterday, isnt it amazing how these criminals use every crisis to slip their agenda through unnoticed to the sheeple.........all Ive seen on TV is the swine flu blablabla.......this still has to get through the senate, lets all do what we can to make sure it doesnt pass (and protect our freedom of speech and the constitution) because Obama already has said he will sign it!!!!!!!

http://www.truthtellers.org/

Despite compelling and passionate testimony by House Republicans, the federal hate crimes bill, HR 1913, passed today in the House of Representatives by a vote of 249 to 175.

In what Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R, VA) called "an atrocity," the House Rules Committee on Tuesday imposed a "closed rule" on debate and amendments, limiting debate to 120 minutes. However, contest of the rule was permitted between both sides for one hour, giving Republicans a preliminary opportunity to lay out objections to the hate bill. They failed in their attempt to lengthen the debate, and the original 120 minutes of debate ensued.

Here are highlights of the Republican opposition:

Rep. Virginia Foxx (R, NC) said HR 1913 will open a new category of "thought crimes" in America, moving us "down a slippery slope" to loss of freedom. She said such has happened under hate laws in Canada and Europe.

Rep. Trent Franks (R, AZ) warned HR 1913 will end equality in America, giving special rights to federally favored groups such as homosexuals.

Rep. Roy Blount (R, MO) echoed Foxx's admonition that hate laws have taken away free speech in Canada and Europe.

Rep. Steve King (R, IA) repeated the warning of his amendment in Judiciary last week, saying pedophiles and many other deviants will obtain special rights and protection under HR 1913.

Rep. Mary Fallin (R, OK) referenced loss of free speech in Canada and Great Britain but also how the "Philly 11" Christians were persecuted under Pennsylvania's hate law.

Rep. Foxx returned, saying a federal hate law would preempt the 10th Amendment which delegates most law enforcement to the states. She said the claim that Matt Sheppard was murdered because he was a homosexual was a "hoax;" he was killed, she said as the victim of a robbery.

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R, TX) charged HR 1913 will divide America into groups of more favored versus less. He again cited USC Title 18, Section 2a, the foundation of HR 1913, which says anyone who through speech "induces" commission of a violent hate crime "will be tried as a principal" alongside the active offender. He said there is no "epidemic" of hate in America.

Rep. King cited the American Psychiatric Association which lists 547 different kinds of paraphilia, or sexual deviancies. King said all of these would merit special federal protection under the class "sexual orientation" enshrined in HR 1913.

Rep. Foxx testified, "This bill itself will spread fear and intimidation." She was referring primarily to Christian/conservative critics of homosexuality, Islam, illegal immigrants, etc. Such critics from the pulpit or airwaves would be increasingly silenced under the hate law's chill on free speech.

Rep. Hastings (D, FL), a proponent of the hate bill, brazenly agreed that HR 1913 would give a galaxy of sexual perverts special protection. He said that under hate bill protection they will not "live in fear because of who they are."

One particularly striking argument was made by Rep. Randy Forbes (R, VA). He said if Miss California had slapped the homosexual judge who derided her on the stage (and across the internet) under HR 1913 she could be indicted as a "violent hate criminal," facing a possible 10 years in prison. But, Forbes said, if the homosexual judge had slapped her, she would have had no special protection under HR 1913. His act would have been simple assault, a misdemeanor.

The testimony of Rep. Todd Akins (R, MO) was also unique. He said HR 1913 would actually increase hate in America. He said the American people, including young people, recognizing that they are now second-class citizens, with homosexuals receiving special federal rights, can only resent (hate?) those who have rights and privileges above them. He also said that with the legal system already backed up, the federal hate law will create havoc within our legal system, requiring judges to also become "psychologists," divining motives of offenders.

Rep. Mike Pence (R, IN) said the FBI statistics show that, far from hate crimes increasing, they have steadily declined over the past 10 years. There is also no evidence that states are lax in hate law enforcement.

Democrat testimony concluded with a special entry, followed by CSPAN camera, of Rep. Barney Frank (D, MA). He pooh-poohed the arrest of the Philly 11 Christians in 2004, saying that, although it was unjust, Republicans were irresponsible in not pointing out that the Christians were acquitted. Fortunately, Rep. Gohmert had the last word, indicating that the very fact that persons can and have been arrested for speech under state laws has a chilling effect on free speech.

Gohmert tried to send the hate bill back to Judiciary for amendments but was overridden.

It is now time for all who love freedom to turn their full attention to defeat of the hate bill in the Senate, where Sen. Edward Kennedy just yesterday introduced his federal hate bill, S. 909, which is certain to be moving rapidly to a vote.

Call 1-877-851-6437 toll free or 1-202-225-3121 toll. Names of Senate Judiciary members are posted here at www.truthtellers.org.

Tell all members of the Senate: "Please don't vote for the pedophile-protecting federal hate crimes bill, S. 909. Please insist on Judiciary hearings to debate this very dangerous, freedom-threatening legislation

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/h...sedinhouse.htm

[williambedloe]

...and now that Arlen Specter is a Dem, how do we think this one is going to go?


Kristallnacht anyone????

[LongShot]

The USA is a dead stick. The race is over and the rats have won.

[NewIraqiDinar]

I find no coincidence in the number of the bill here, "HR 1913".

The year "1913" was the year the Federal Reserve Act was passed...

The NWO/Illuminati has no shame.

[geowhiz]

Originally Posted by LongShot

The USA is a dead stick. The race is over and the rats have won.

Luckily there are countries out there that are fiercely capitalist, without any corruption in their politics, and are full of peace-loving, law abiding and completely moral citizens that we can move to..

Like Costa Rica..

[tesla]

Originally Posted by NewIraqiDinar

I find no coincidence in the number of the bill here, "HR 1913".

The year "1913" was the year the Federal Reserve Act was passed...

The NWO/Illuminati has no shame.

Yes, what a great year, we got the FEDERAL RESERVE, THE IRS, AND THE ADL, guess who runs all 3???

[VonWeeden]

Honestly, since when have we had 'freedom of speech'?

Sure, we can say more here than in other countries, but censorship is a way of life in a 'civilized' society. We deal with it every day.

[LongShot]

Yes sir, heading down there in 2 weeks. Provided there is no fly banning.

Originally Posted by geowhiz

Luckily there are countries out there that are fiercely capitalist, without any corruption in their politics, and are full of peace-loving, law abiding and completely moral citizens that we can move to..

Like Costa Rica..

[geowhiz]

Originally Posted by LongShot

Yes sir, heading down there in 2 weeks. Provided there is no fly banning.

Then enjoy the Tico Desayuno, keep your wallet in your front pocket, and have an Imperial on me!

[Semper Fidelis]

Originally Posted by geowhiz

Then enjoy the Tico Desayuno and keep your wallet in your front pocket.

That's what I do too.... Good thinking....

But, my wallet is shaped like a large zucchini squash.... it's dual purpose.

[geowhiz]

Originally Posted by Semper Fidelis

That's what I do too.... Good thinking....

But, my wallet is shaped like a large zucchini squash.... it's dual purpose.

I assume for all the Durex XXL's you bring along for the ride(s), si??

Pura Vida..

[Wolverine]

Originally Posted by geowhiz

Luckily there are countries out there that are fiercely capitalist, without any corruption in their politics, and are full of peace-loving, law abiding and completely moral citizens that we can move to..

Like Costa Rica..

quit saying that all the darn time there are lots of idiots on the internet that I don't want for neighbors , at least I am hearing that they won't allow Obama voters to move there !!!

[geowhiz]

Originally Posted by Wolverine

quit saying that all the darn time there are lots of idiots on the internet that I don't want for neighbors , at least I am hearing that they won't allow Obama voters to move there !!!

I guarantee, where you are looking to go there are nothing but used up Ticas from the city tending the hole in the wall bars, conga-banging rastafarians from Limon selling pipes (and other unmentionables), and tree-hugging expats from California and Colorado doing the surfing. There is no bigger Obama fan club than that.

[GLORYFIRE]

Originally Posted by geowhiz

Luckily there are countries out there that are fiercely capitalist, without any corruption in their politics, and are full of peace-loving, law abiding and completely moral citizens that we can move to..

Like Costa Rica..

seriously, is that true? I wish this thing would reval so I could buy some property there!

[geowhiz]

Originally Posted by GLORYFIRE

seriously, is that true? I wish this thing would reval so I could buy some property there!

The Ticos would welcome you with open arms as long as you have plenty of colones in your pocket, and if you dont.. well.. let me just say you wouldnt have any problem finding lucrative work there, especially if you can speak spanglish and dont mind working night hours.

[GLORYFIRE]

Originally Posted by geowhiz

The Ticos would welcome you with open arms as long as you have plenty of colones in your pockets, and if you dont.. well, let me just say you wouldnt have any problem finding lucrative work there.

I will surely bring my bodyguards!

[geowhiz]

Originally Posted by GLORYFIRE

I will surely bring my bodyguards!

You'll need them, and a few guard dogs when you walk the beach or take jungle hikes. Other than that... Paradise..

[tesla]

Originally Posted by Dinarhunter

Text of the Actual Bill

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=h111-1913

Seems to be an agreement to help out local police with investigations and an amendement to the end of Chapter 13 of title 18, United States Code...add's subsection 249

Chapter 13 of title 18, United States Code
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/1...0_I_20_13.html


I'm going to reserve judgement on this piece of legislation...Other then to ask....I thought this was already law?

This bill will turn what may be determined (under "color of law") as "hate speech" (however that will be defined) into a crime, if passed through the senate, it will effectively attack free speech as we know it today, and you may see people going to jail for their opinions on TV, Radio, News, public speech,....etc. We do not need this bill at all, I completely agree that all we have to do is enforce laws already on the books...........this is totally unconstitutional, but then again, what are these clowns doing lately that isnt.......(ooops, dont want to piss off any professional clowns)

[tesla]

Originally Posted by Dinarhunter

I didn't see anything about Hate Speech in the Bill...Everything added to Chapter 13 of title 18, United States Code Specificly mentioned Bodily Injury...I work in a Liability and Property insurance Company...Hate speech would not be covered under our Bodily injury clause...

The rest seemed to talk about help out law enforcement offices that may require it...

I don't know i'm still reserving judgement...i don't really see how this changes anything at all

"Whoever commits an offense against the United States, or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission, is punishable as a principle" U.S. Code, Title 18 - Sec. 2

YouTube - Hate Bill Lies: Exposed! (David Ray...

[Integrity]

Originally Posted by tesla

HR1913 passed by 249-175 in the house yesterday, isnt it amazing how these criminals use every crisis to slip their agenda through unnoticed to the sheeple.........all Ive seen on TV is the swine flu blablabla.......this still has to get through the senate, lets all do what we can to make sure it doesnt pass (and protect our freedom of speech and the constitution) because Obama already has said he will sign it!!!!!!!

http://www.truthtellers.org/

Despite compelling and passionate testimony by House Republicans, the federal hate crimes bill, HR 1913, passed today in the House of Representatives by a vote of 249 to 175.

In what Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R, VA) called "an atrocity," the House Rules Committee on Tuesday imposed a "closed rule" on debate and amendments, limiting debate to 120 minutes. However, contest of the rule was permitted between both sides for one hour, giving Republicans a preliminary opportunity to lay out objections to the hate bill. They failed in their attempt to lengthen the debate, and the original 120 minutes of debate ensued.

Here are highlights of the Republican opposition:

Rep. Virginia Foxx (R, NC) said HR 1913 will open a new category of "thought crimes" in America, moving us "down a slippery slope" to loss of freedom. She said such has happened under hate laws in Canada and Europe.

Rep. Trent Franks (R, AZ) warned HR 1913 will end equality in America, giving special rights to federally favored groups such as homosexuals.

Rep. Roy Blount (R, MO) echoed Foxx's admonition that hate laws have taken away free speech in Canada and Europe.

Rep. Steve King (R, IA) repeated the warning of his amendment in Judiciary last week, saying pedophiles and many other deviants will obtain special rights and protection under HR 1913.

Rep. Mary Fallin (R, OK) referenced loss of free speech in Canada and Great Britain but also how the "Philly 11" Christians were persecuted under Pennsylvania's hate law.

Rep. Foxx returned, saying a federal hate law would preempt the 10th Amendment which delegates most law enforcement to the states. She said the claim that Matt Sheppard was murdered because he was a homosexual was a "hoax;" he was killed, she said as the victim of a robbery.

Rep. Louie Gohmert (R, TX) charged HR 1913 will divide America into groups of more favored versus less. He again cited USC Title 18, Section 2a, the foundation of HR 1913, which says anyone who through speech "induces" commission of a violent hate crime "will be tried as a principal" alongside the active offender. He said there is no "epidemic" of hate in America.

Rep. King cited the American Psychiatric Association which lists 547 different kinds of paraphilia, or sexual deviancies. King said all of these would merit special federal protection under the class "sexual orientation" enshrined in HR 1913.

Rep. Foxx testified, "This bill itself will spread fear and intimidation." She was referring primarily to Christian/conservative critics of homosexuality, Islam, illegal immigrants, etc. Such critics from the pulpit or airwaves would be increasingly silenced under the hate law's chill on free speech.

Rep. Hastings (D, FL), a proponent of the hate bill, brazenly agreed that HR 1913 would give a galaxy of sexual perverts special protection. He said that under hate bill protection they will not "live in fear because of who they are."

One particularly striking argument was made by Rep. Randy Forbes (R, VA). He said if Miss California had slapped the homosexual judge who derided her on the stage (and across the internet) under HR 1913 she could be indicted as a "violent hate criminal," facing a possible 10 years in prison. But, Forbes said, if the homosexual judge had slapped her, she would have had no special protection under HR 1913. His act would have been simple assault, a misdemeanor.

The testimony of Rep. Todd Akins (R, MO) was also unique. He said HR 1913 would actually increase hate in America. He said the American people, including young people, recognizing that they are now second-class citizens, with homosexuals receiving special federal rights, can only resent (hate?) those who have rights and privileges above them. He also said that with the legal system already backed up, the federal hate law will create havoc within our legal system, requiring judges to also become "psychologists," divining motives of offenders.

Rep. Mike Pence (R, IN) said the FBI statistics show that, far from hate crimes increasing, they have steadily declined over the past 10 years. There is also no evidence that states are lax in hate law enforcement.

Democrat testimony concluded with a special entry, followed by CSPAN camera, of Rep. Barney Frank (D, MA). He pooh-poohed the arrest of the Philly 11 Christians in 2004, saying that, although it was unjust, Republicans were irresponsible in not pointing out that the Christians were acquitted. Fortunately, Rep. Gohmert had the last word, indicating that the very fact that persons can and have been arrested for speech under state laws has a chilling effect on free speech.

Gohmert tried to send the hate bill back to Judiciary for amendments but was overridden.

It is now time for all who love freedom to turn their full attention to defeat of the hate bill in the Senate, where Sen. Edward Kennedy just yesterday introduced his federal hate bill, S. 909, which is certain to be moving rapidly to a vote.

Call 1-877-851-6437 toll free or 1-202-225-3121 toll. Names of Senate Judiciary members are posted here at www.truthtellers.org.

Tell all members of the Senate: "Please don't vote for the pedophile-protecting federal hate crimes bill, S. 909. Please insist on Judiciary hearings to debate this very dangerous, freedom-threatening legislation

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/h...sedinhouse.htm

Tesla, thank you for posting this. Makes me sick to my stomache whats happening to our country. I bet Barney Frank is bending over with joy. Just being as gay as he can be.